What would happen if there is no OHL season? (Part 2)

MatthewsMoustache

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In September we had 150 covid cases per day and it was deemed too dangerous to play. Does that mean OHL will only start in 2024 when we have -10 cases per day ??? Think about it now how ridiculous it was to postpone the season for so few cases..

At that point the govt. wanted them playing in full face shields with no contact.

I imagine they would’ve been bubble wrapped had they played this spring.
 

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Cut the crap everyone the OHL players got screwed big time. By politicians and the league... they got screwed and nobody tells them anything for September...
 

OMG67

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Cut the crap everyone the OHL players got screwed big time. By politicians and the league... they got screwed and nobody tells them anything for September...

That is now irrelevant.

The focus is on when and how they manage to get things started next season.
 

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That is now irrelevant.

The focus is on when and how they manage to get things started next season.

That is how it should of been looked at in January. But they waited a few months later dragging their feet n wishing upon a star before they canceled the season
 

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Time to put this thread to bed ladies. Things are starting to look pretty damn good for a return to normal come September!!
 
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Maybe not September but early enough to have some sort of normal start.

Really, the only thing stopping September would be concerns over capacity. Everyone in the province who wants one should have 2 shots by then, and the virus should be on its last legs and around in minimal numbers at that point.
 

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Really, the only thing stopping September would be concerns over capacity. Everyone in the province who wants one should have 2 shots by then, and the virus should be on its last legs and around in minimal numbers at that point.

I think there will still be some concerns:

1 - kids getting vaccinated... yes or no?
2 - arena capacity
3 - lifting of protocols
4 - delay between getting the 2nd shot and when it actually kicks in
5 - left over trepidation and consumer confidence

These are just a few issues. End of September is still a bit of a wildcard. Plus training camps open well before that.

Timing may be off slightly. I think lining up the start of the OHL season to mirror the start of the NHL season will cause far less issues. A one month delay will probably be for the best irregardless of the situation.

The last thing we need is another delay announcement because they were too agressive.
 

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Really, the only thing stopping September would be concerns over capacity. Everyone in the province who wants one should have 2 shots by then, and the virus should be on its last legs and around in minimal numbers at that point.

I dont think everyone will have tge 2nd shot.
 

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Well here is a little bit of OHL news With the 2021 OHL Priority Selection presented by Real Canadian Superstore fast approaching on June 4-5, the Ontario Hockey League is excited to circle another date on the calendar as opening night for the 2021-22 regular season is set for Thursday, October 7.

“It’s an exciting time for everyone as we turn our attention to a new season,” said Commissioner David Branch. “We look forward to getting our players back into their OHL communities where they can continue to pursue their goals both on the ice and in the classroom.”

Players will report to training camps on Saturday, September 4 before the League embarks on a conventional 68-game regular season schedule commencing Thursday, October 7 and concluding Sunday, April 3, 2022. The 2022 OHL Playoffs will get underway on Thursday, April 7 and run through Monday, May 30 at the latest with the presentation of the prestigious J. Ross Robertson Cup. The OHL champion will advance to the 2022 Memorial Cup presented by Kia to be held June 2-12.
the ? will be will there be fans in the stands :popcorn:
 

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If things go as planned with vaccinations, I don't see why they would not at least have limited capacity at the start of the season, and gradually increasing it as cases keep dropping further.
Having said that, I think the season start will be delayed to November, with camps starting mid October. While we will be at the tail end of this by October, I don't think everyone would have had access to their second shot
 

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Well here is a little bit of OHL news With the 2021 OHL Priority Selection presented by Real Canadian Superstore fast approaching on June 4-5, the Ontario Hockey League is excited to circle another date on the calendar as opening night for the 2021-22 regular season is set for Thursday, October 7.

“It’s an exciting time for everyone as we turn our attention to a new season,” said Commissioner David Branch. “We look forward to getting our players back into their OHL communities where they can continue to pursue their goals both on the ice and in the classroom.”

Players will report to training camps on Saturday, September 4 before the League embarks on a conventional 68-game regular season schedule commencing Thursday, October 7 and concluding Sunday, April 3, 2022. The 2022 OHL Playoffs will get underway on Thursday, April 7 and run through Monday, May 30 at the latest with the presentation of the prestigious J. Ross Robertson Cup. The OHL champion will advance to the 2022 Memorial Cup presented by Kia to be held June 2-12.
the ? will be will there be fans in the stands :popcorn:

The later start gives about 5 months from today to get more and more people vaccinated and to have the numbers slowed down. The fact that they are already announcing dates and soon a schedule shows that they are confident this will work. A 68 game season only works with fans in the stands. At this point, I'd say the big question mark is how many fans will be allowed to start rather than if there will be fans.
 
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BigHitter67

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The later start gives about 5 months from today to get more and more people vaccinated and to have the numbers slowed down. The fact that they are already announcing dates and soon a schedule shows that they are confident this will work. A 68 game season only works with fans in the stands. At this point, I'd say the big question mark is how many fans will be allowed to start rather than if there will be fans.


Simplest and most logical answer would be ...vaccination =admittance (and potentially FULL arenas)
 

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Simplest and most logical answer would be ...vaccination =admittance (and potentially FULL arenas)

I was just saying the other day - it'll be interesting to see how society reacts if sports venues, concerts, and any outdoor events with larger crowds (ie. festivals, carnivals, etc) require people to have the vaccine before entering. By that point, we *should* have full access to vaccines to whoever wants one (even a second dose) so could it become a case of "show proof of vaccine or watch from home"?
 
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Having a date to start training camps, the season etc along with announcing plans for a full schedule is good news but it also allows the fans the opportunity to hold the league and government accountable.

Now it's up to the governments to make a full push to get people vaccinated and take it a step further get the vaccine into people's arms around the world.

Right now there's only a couple of major hurdles that have the potential to hold things up.

First of course is vaccinations. The US is ahead of Canada but needs to keep pushing. Canada is in catch up mode and needs to get a constant and steady stream of vaccines from their partners in the international community. Canada, once thought to be the most prepared in terms of securing enough doses has struggled to get doses to put in people's arms while the US seemed to be on track for a mediocre roll out has enough doses stockpiled to vaccinate everyone twice with a fair size portion of the population having at least one dose and a third or so having both doses where required. That's on the politicians to figure out. Until a significant part of both countries are fully vaccinated the border remains an issue.

The second issue revolving around vaccines is the international community. This isn't so much about Canada and the US but the rest of the international community and the ability for the hospitality industry to open back up. Hotels and a lot of attractions etc need hotel capacity to be able to accept visitors. In turn hotels need attractions open so they have guests available to justify opening their facilities. Bars and restaurants etc will follow suit. The OHL/CHL needs accomadations available for their teams as well as out of town fans but no hotels are going to open up for the league alone. While it's looking like midsummer for many major attractions to be ready to open it shouldn't be an issue for the league but if there's any delays then many places may hold off further plans to open until more normal travel patterns develop.

Vaccine passports is likely going to cause more issues than it resolves. If vaccines are getting into people's arms and the numbers show that the majority of people are getting them, combined with international access to vaccines allowing for the world to see major declines in transmission then the idea of vaccine passports when people are being told vaccines get us back to normal will see a lot of push back. Until the whole world shows consistent drops in transmission then vaccine passports to enter the country makes sense. Having people visiting from countries that are still struggling with transmission showing a vaccine passport plus rapid testing makes sense to avoid transmission of any new variants. Canada and the US would need to be on the same page. Having proof of players and billets being vaccinated makes sense due to the close interactions players have on and off the ice. If all precautions like this are taken and the majority of the population has been vaccinated and the numbers have been reduced to minimal amounts and shown to be under control over a long term sample size then asking fans to prove they've been vaccinated when statistics should show they most likely have will only create animosity amongst the fans as well as visitors to other attractions. You can't sell vaccines as the way to return to normal then tell fans or the general population they need to prove they're in compliance when the stats should bear out that they likely are.

If vaccine passports for Canadian and American citizens become a requirement the economic damage done will only continue to get worse and will continue to give people an excuse not get vaccinated. Think of it this way, if you don't need a vaccine to go to work, go shopping etc but you need one to attend an event then the hypocrisy of our entire economic and health care systems becomes glaringly apparent. Not vaccinated? go to work anyways. Not vaccinated? Spend your money at those big box stores so they can keep their profits rolling in. Want to go to a sporting event or take in some of other form of leisure activity but can't prove you're vaccinated? Too bad, go home and sit all alone.

As long as numbers drop, transmission slows and people get vaccinated and precautions are taken to limit physical interaction between nations that haven't reached the level we should be at until they do reach those same numbers then there's no reason at all they can't be ready to open with full arenas and no restrictions by October. Anything saying otherwise shows a lack of faith in the vaccines and the idea of herd immunity being successful.

The good thing in the end is there is a stated date, a stated goal and there's now something to be used to hold those making decisions to account.
 

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I was just saying the other day - it'll be interesting to see how society reacts if sports venues, concerts, and any outdoor events with larger crowds (ie. festivals, carnivals, etc) require people to have the vaccine before entering. By that point, we *should* have full access to vaccines to whoever wants one (even a second dose) so could it become a case of "show proof of vaccine or watch from home"?

Might be better to look at that in 2022.
 

MatthewsMoustache

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I was just saying the other day - it'll be interesting to see how society reacts if sports venues, concerts, and any outdoor events with larger crowds (ie. festivals, carnivals, etc) require people to have the vaccine before entering. By that point, we *should* have full access to vaccines to whoever wants one (even a second dose) so could it become a case of "show proof of vaccine or watch from home"?

That'll be quite the can of worms to open. I think certain things should require it but it will come at the expense of the minimum wage workers who have to enforce it at their workplaces.
 
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