Toby, or not Toby
That is the question
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
With Clitsome on your first pairing
The Slings and Arms of Outrageous Fans
Or to take Arms against a Sea of Ignorance
And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep
No more;
Toby, or not Toby
That is the question
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
With Clitsome on your first pairing
The Slings and Arms of Outrageous Fans
Or to take Arms against a Sea of Ignorance
And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep
No more;
[GV][/GV]Toby is overrated as a PP specialist and PP QB for that matter.
Toby's small stature will lead to more injuries as his career progress's, were just starting to see the beginning of a guy who will be more injured than not. Other teams have already figured out pounding on him renders him useless.
this obsession over size is silly. we're like top 5 biggest teams in the league. not everyone needs to be 6'5 250 lbs.
Toby, or not Toby
That is the question
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
With Clitsome on your first pairing
The Slings and Arms of Outrageous Fans
Or to take Arms against a Sea of Ignorance
And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep
No more;
Well, maybe the complete lack of size of this particular player is indeed a contributing factor, given that he is regularly tossed around like a rag doll by others - which results in his injuries. A nuanced point of view might in fact be that using a larger-sized player in that spot is perhaps preferable, given that d-men must regularly compete against behemoth-sized forwards.
So to answer the question what do we do about Tobi? Easy!
If we keep Byfuglien our D-core is pretty much figured out.
You develop Trouba as Bogosian's future partner. As they progress you keep usage the same but push more and more minutes towards them instead of Enstrom-Byfuglien.
*solved*
Enstrom was playing like a darkhorse Norris contender before he got hurt the first time. He looked worse after coming but he's still a great Dmen. Top 20 in the league. Not a guy you trade because he got hurt twice.
Thanks for the helpful analysis.
Has Bogosian ever played the Left side on D? If not, I wonder how he would adjust. A Bogo / Trouba defence pairing would have a great mix of size and mobility, along with physical play (though I'd like Bogo to play a bit more physically).
Enstrom was playing like a darkhorse Norris contender before he got hurt the first time. He looked worse after coming but he's still a great Dmen. Top 20 in the league. Not a guy you trade because he got hurt twice.
Enstrom + Byfuglien WOWY 2012-13
Pair | TOI | GF/20 | GA/20 | GF% | CF%
Tobi-Buff | 129:27 | 0.772 | 0.464 | 62.5 | 51.6
Tobi apart | 64:53 | 0.617 | 0.925 | 40.0 | 40.3
Buff apart | 266:04 | 1.278 | 1.278 | 50.0 | 47.5
Enstrom + Byfuglien WOWY 2011-12
Pair | TOI | GF/20 | GA/20 | GF% | CF%
Tobi-Buff | 724:41 | 0.966 | 0.883 | 52.2 | 55.8
Tobi apart | 389:12 | 0.925 | 0.874 | 51.4 | 52.5
Buff apart | 724:41 | 0.786 | 1.140 | 40.8 | 49.9
What does all this crap this mean???
1) Byfuglien does NOT play more careful without Enstrom... look at his GA skyrocketing without Enstrom and getting out shot both seasons without him.
2) Both players are better together than apart... together they put up better results than any D pairing tried by this franchise since 2007.
3) You can't blame the guy who is outscoring his opponents (when away from Hainsey or Bogosian) for the teams win-loss record.
4) Also, NMC and at trade deadline Chevy said the only guys untouchable are those who have contracts that dictate as such
Definately not overrated PP specialist
Looking at NHL for 5v4 defensemen pts/min (played 1.5+ mins per game of PP and at least half the season)
2012-13 5th
2011-12 35th
2010-11 16th
Ya... no...
Bonus just for fun:
Hainsey-Bogosian 2010-12 => GF% 52.3 CF% 49.8 TOI 520:33
Enstrom-Bogosian 2010-12 => GF% 43.5 CF% 48.9 TOI 270:21
So to answer the question what do we do about Tobi? Easy!
If we keep Byfuglien our D-core is pretty much figured out.
You develop Trouba as Bogosian's future partner. As they progress you keep usage the same but push more and more minutes towards them instead of Enstrom-Byfuglien.
*solved*
Show all the stats you want
Jets win more games without him then with him
in a battle in the corners, toby is the most likely of our d-man to emerge with the puck. that tells me he can outplay behemoths.
Go read up on correlation and causation.
What about procrastination and indignation?
Enstrom was playing like a darkhorse Norris contender before he got hurt the first time. He looked worse after coming but he's still a great Dmen. Top 20 in the league. Not a guy you trade because he got hurt twice.