Value of: what pick would the 32nd,58th,60th,63rd,66th picks return ?

[Moosetache]

The Canes would take all those picks off your hands no doubt considering their last couple years behavior.

 

[bernmeister]

I get that 32 all by itself is close to a late 1st, but the rest are too far back to move the needle substantially.

A late 1st, ballpark 28 or so, +/- a tad.

Better to bundle/use the picks.

 

[cwede]

Maybe 24, from a team that knows a guy top of their list is likely undervalued
But i think a team dropping from 24 to 32 might want a more known asset(s) as well, like a player recently drafted in 2d or 3d or a youg guy who had a breakout prior season

 

[exporta]

23rd

 

[Djp]

This returns 10-15 range.

If it did we’d see these trades every tear...when was the last one?

 

[QJL]

If it did we’d see these trades every tear...when was the last one?

How often does a team have 5 picks from 32-66? Almost never. Montreal in 2018 was the only team in the last 5 years with 5 picks in this range.

This is what 32+58+60+63+66 has looked like recently:

2019: Pinto + Henriksson + Johansson + Steinburg + Grewe

2018: Samuelsson + Hallander + Gustafsson + McBain + Hillis


The only players drafted 11-15 I take over over those packages are:

2019: Soderstrom, Knight
2018: Dobson

If you have confidence in your scouts to find gems like Pinto and Hallander, you take the quantity in my opinion.

 

[Djp]

How often does a team have 5 picks from 32-66? Almost never. Montreal in 2018 was the only team in the last 5 years with 5 picks in this range.

Buffalo had 31+39+49+61 going into the draft/ The pick value of those picks exceeds the 5 you are currently referring to.
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check back and see in 5 yrs what comes of these players.

Only on here to people seriously overvalue late 2nds and early 3rd round picks thinking they are going to somehow be cuperstars. If you are talking something like the NFL draft then there is value here because in the NFL you can get true all star impact players in late 2nd and early 3rd around the same pick placement. In the NHL historically its very very rare to get a player who is an actual star player.

This is what 32+58+60+63+66 has looked like recently:

2019: Pinto + Henriksson + Johansson + Steinburg + Grewe

2018: Samuelsson + Hallander + Gustafsson + McBain + Hillis

The only players drafted 11-15 I take over over those packages are:

2019: Soderstrom, Knight
2018: Dobson

If you have confidence in your scouts to find gems like Pinto and Hallander, you take the quantity in my opinion.

If they were true quality players they would have fggone in the 1st round---they didnt why--because they are lacking someth8ing that translates tot he NHL

 

[Habs Halifax]

Depends a lot on circumstance and how scouts feel about this draft. If the narrative is the talent drops off after the 1st round, no team makes that trade. If the draft is deep and runs well into the 2nd round, maybe a team in the 16-25 range bites. Big maybe

There is no absolute formula to determine fair value on this. Circumstance of the draft year plays a huge factor

 

[ThatsSoSlavin]

The only way a team would consider trading their first for this package is if it’s numbered 20+ and the team in question has an empty prospect pool, ie. Boston, Columbus, leafs (no first I know).

There’s no way of moving into the top 15 (imo)

 

[DinosaurBones]

i ask this because detroit between its own 2nd and 3rd , caps 2nd , oils 2nd , sjs 3rd have somewhere near all those draft positions and i wonder how far we could move up ?

Jesus. you mean all picks included? Id say around 18? Always depends on the team though. But that's a lot of picks why would you even want to do that lol

 

[HisNoodliness]

Let's not trade five picks for one. If there's a guy falling that we want to snipe, attach a 2nd and a 3rd to 32 to move up a few spots and get him. We should use most of those.

 

[Draiskull]

Oilers will give you AA for a couple of 2nds.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Oilers will give you AA for a couple of 2nds.

Pass he's your scrub now.

 

[Draiskull]

Pass he's your scrub now.

" Did you just call AA a tweener/scrub? Get real here he's hardly a tweener/scrub He's a better scorer then half of your team. This is a total joke. "
I guess he isn't worth RNH or Caleb Jones + 1st in your eyes anymore

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

" Did you just call AA a tweener/scrub? Get real here he's hardly a tweener/scrub He's a better scorer then half of your team. This is a total joke. "
I guess he isn't worth RNH or Caleb Jones + 1st in your eyes anymore

Sure he's not better then Larkin Bertuzzi or Mantha he has fewer points then Fabbri. He's a one dimensional winger that sucks at defense. He doesn't give his all every shift like Larkin does. Yeah pretty sure i know AA far more then you do and yeah he's basically a scrub the guy has zero passion or heart. He's pretty much me me he doesn't play for his teammates he play for AA only.

 

[Draiskull]

Sure he's not better then Larkin Bertuzzi or Mantha he has fewer points then Fabbri. He's a one dimensional winger that sucks at defense. He doesn't give his all every shift like Larkin does. Yeah pretty sure i know AA far more then you do and yeah he's basically a scrub the guy has zero passion or heart. He's pretty much me me he doesn't play for his teammates he play for AA only.

What I posted was a pre trade quote from a great poster that goes by Number1RedWingsFan52 . The other asks were (Nuge\Jones+1) were also from his post history

 

[Video Coach]

I wonder if someone like Columbus may be interested in moving back to recoup some of the lost draft assets they traded in 2019. I could see the 15th pick (currently CBJ) for 2 x 2nds and a 3rd.

 

[Dan Kelly]

Keep the picks.

Especially if only a mid first is being offered in return.

 

[ThankGord]

Keep 'em, package two or three at most if a guy slips to trade up. I think Red Wings scouts are going to be very prepared to pick in the 2nd/3rd rounds.

 

[Rorschach]

Not many teams can accept that many picks back in one draft. Not only is there a salary cap, there is a contract cap too.

Why trade for so many picks when you can’t sign them all?

 

[Oddbob]

" Did you just call AA a tweener/scrub? Get real here he's hardly a tweener/scrub He's a better scorer then half of your team. This is a total joke. "
I guess he isn't worth RNH or Caleb Jones + 1st in your eyes anymore

Yeah, we really miss his 10 goals and no defence! Can we please have him back, we will give you all 2020 Draft Picks and take on all your cap dumps!

 

[Draiskull]

Yeah, we really miss his 10 goals and no defence! Can we please have him back, we will give you all 2020 Draft Picks and take on all your cap dumps!

relax, I was just joking. AA is worse than Puljujarvi. I was just posting some of the old asks for him by DET fans

 

[FlyguyOX]

According to my pick value tool I have, the combined value of the average player at those slots would be roughly equivalent to a player selected 11th or 12th overall.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

i ask this because detroit between its own 2nd and 3rd , caps 2nd , oils 2nd , sjs 3rd have somewhere near all those draft positions and i wonder how far we could move up ?

Lots of quantity, but second and third round picks only have so much trade value. Probably can get you up to 15-20, but I don't see the marginal value there for Detroit. There's probably a better chance at getting a NHL player with five shots in the second and third round instead of one shot in the middle of the first round.

 

[Gilles Meloche]

If it was the NFL it would get you Ricky Williams