What is Kane missing from being considered as the best player of his generation?

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  1. illpucks

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    It's usually either Sid or Ovi but Kane has a good case for being the best player of the generation. 3 Cups, Smythe, AR, Hart, Lindsay, Cup Winning Goal, stellar playoff resume

    Also Kane is the point leader from 2014/15 -present. What exactly is he missing? Or is he the best player of his generation (and Crosby and Ovi are not)?
     
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    He is missing more Harts, Lindsays and Art Rosses, as well as the number of dominating seasons that guys like Crosby and Ovechkin have.

    Also, the time prior to 2014/15 matters when talking about his "generation".
     
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    Seriously?
     
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    He just hasn't produced at Sid's rate. Or even Malkin's or OV's. Don't get me wrong, he is a great offensive talent and one of the best players in the NHL in the past fifteen years, but he just isn't the best.
     
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    I assume you're not talking about Evander.
     
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    Missing being one of the best players of his generation.
     
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    In playoffs he is best of the 4.
     
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    No need to assume. Just read OP's post so it becomes apparent which Kane he is talking about.
     
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    Game seven in a Cup final I'm taking Kane over the field.

    One more Cup, especially with this Hawks team, he's the best player of the cap era.

    Sorry Sidney fans (shrugs)
     
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    He isnt Canadian
     
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    LOL... I just read the thread title. My bad.
     
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    Based on what exactly? Crosby scores more points, plays the harder position and is miles better defensively.
     
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    The only thing Evander is missing is playing the Flames in every single game.
     
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    He's actually tied for 3rd and a pretty clear 4th if value Ovechkin's goals higher.
     
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    His playoff resume and his alltime plays. None of Crosby/Ovi/Malkin have anything like this (in the NHL playoffs)
     
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    To go along with back-to-back Conn Smythe trophies and 3 cups, Crosby is 8th all-time in points per game in the playoffs.

    It's no insult to Kane that he's behind someone with that on his resume.
     
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    Er... what? Not by production he isn't

    Kane: 127 games played, goals: 50, points: 123

    Crosby: 160 games played, goals: 66, points: 185

    Malkin: 158 games played, goals: 62, points: 165

    Ovechkin: 121 games played, goals: 61, points: 117


    Way less of a point scoring rate then Crosby and also less then Malkin. On par with OV, but a lot fewer goals per game.



    So no, still Crosby, and it is not particularly close.
     
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    To answer OPs question I think another AR and Hart would put him in the same league, add-on another cup and it might put him at the top.

    To people acting like it's ridiculous, Kane's the youngest of Crosby, OV, Malkin. He could still have a few more dominant years in him after this one.

    Some people value certain things more than others when talking about what makes a player the "best". I think how much the player wins games should be weighted heavily, but others argue that's a product of the team and shouldn't matter.

    As of right now though, it's tough to argue his case.
     
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    So you are basing it on playoff PPG? Playoff PPG is not equal to best player. Kane's clutch plays significantly outweigh any other player on there. You can't just do a PPG chart.
     
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    What is your reason for starting this thread when you are fully aware that Crosby has won twice as many of those same awards?
     
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    I'm going to need to see a clutch play chart.
     
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    Hawks have won 6 in a row so Hawks fans are trickling back to the main board.
     
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    So Crosby has 6 cups?
    Art Ross sure but Kane has a chance this season
     
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