Line Combos: What happens when Lars comes back?

Habs Junkie

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Assuming Therriens new line combos stick

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Andrighetto- Plekanec-Sekac
Bournival-Desharnais-Parenteau
Prust-Malholtra-Weise

If Eller is ok and coming back soon, what should Therrien do?

Is Andrighetto sent back? Is Bournival going to be scratched? Do you keep Galchenyuk at centre?

I'm really excited the coach finally decided to change the lines. Finally looking forward to watching games again. The old combos really became unbearable. Actually it was the golden duo that was annoying the crap out of me. I was ok with the other lines. We finally will get to see what some of our guys have with Desharnais off the top line.

*this is not a Desharnais bashing thread. I'm happy he's also getting a shot to reinvent himself as a player in a new role. I would like to see him succeed, and we should all as fans. His role was not meant for him, I dont blame him for the decisions of the coach.
 

Andy

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I don't think we'll have to worry for a while. Prolonged updates during injuries usually means bad news. Wouldn't be surprised to hear that he's out 3-4 months.
 

CristianoRonaldo

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In your head
Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Andrighetto- Plekanec-Sekac
Bournival-Eller-Parenteau
Prust-Malholtra-Weise

This, i don't see where DD can fit.
 

mus1cx

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Assuming Therriens new line combos stick

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Andrighetto- Plekanec-Sekac
Bournival-Desharnais-Parenteau
Prust-Malholtra-Weise

If Eller is ok and coming back soon, what should Therrien do?

Is Andrighetto sent back? Is Bournival going to be scratched? Do you keep Galchenyuk at centre?

I'm really excited the coach finally decided to change the lines. Finally looking forward to watching games again. The old combos really became unbearable. Actually it was the golden duo that was annoying the crap out of me. I was ok with the other lines. We finally will get to see what some of our guys have with Desharnais off the top line.

*this is not a Desharnais bashing thread. I'm happy he's also getting a shot to reinvent himself as a player in a new role. I would like to see him succeed, and we should all as fans. His role was not meant for him, I dont blame him for the decisions of the coach.

I actually would put Chucky on the second line for now... He's still young and you wanna ease him in. I'd do something like :

Pacioretty - Plekanec - Parenteau
Andrighetto - Galchenyuk - Gallagher
Prust - Eller - Sekac
Bournival - Malholtra - Weise

DD in the press box.
 

OnTheRun

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We are talking about MT here... You should be worried about the line combos lasting more than one period not about Eller coming back or not.
 

AllanMTL46

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The thing is that even if Galchenyuk is taken off that line, we know that this is his spot in the near future. Should Desharnais be placed on the 2nd line? No, Plekanec is a better 2nd line centre than him. Should he be placed on the 3rd line? No, Eller is a better 3rd centre than him. 4th line? No, he shouldn't ever play on a 4th line. And he can't play wing. And even if he could I don't want that type of player as a top 6 or even top 9 winger. Which spot does it leave him with? None.
 

M.C.G. 31

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Hopefully something like:

Pac - Chucky - Gally
Ghetto - Plek - PAP
Sekac - Eller - Prust
DD/Bourni - Manny - Weise
 

DAChampion

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By that time we will likely have other injuries.

Eller might play on a line with Hudon and Bowman.
 

MXD

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Assuming Therriens new line combos stick

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Andrighetto- Plekanec-Sekac
Bournival-Desharnais-Parenteau
Prust-Malholtra-Weise

If Eller is ok and coming back soon, what should Therrien do?

Is Andrighetto sent back? Is Bournival going to be scratched? Do you keep Galchenyuk at centre?

I'm really excited the coach finally decided to change the lines. Finally looking forward to watching games again. The old combos really became unbearable. Actually it was the golden duo that was annoying the crap out of me. I was ok with the other lines. We finally will get to see what some of our guys have with Desharnais off the top line.

*this is not a Desharnais bashing thread. I'm happy he's also getting a shot to reinvent himself as a player in a new role. I would like to see him succeed, and we should all as fans. His role was not meant for him, I dont blame him for the decisions of the coach.

Too much will happen between now and Eller's return.
 

MXD

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Which raises a question though :

Everybody wants a two-way player for the first and the second lines to handle tough matchups, and our 4th line C is Manny Malhotra.

In that situation, what is the problem with the 3rd C (say, DD, for the sake of the example) NOT being a 2-way player?
 

CristianoRonaldo

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In your head
Which raises a question though :

Everybody wants a two-way player for the first and the second lines to handle tough matchups, and our 4th line C is Manny Malhotra.

In that situation, what is the problem with the 3rd C (say, DD, for the sake of the example) NOT being a 2-way player?

Manny is an elite face-off taker and can play in the PK and we have a player (Eller) who can play 2 way. Why would we want DD on the third line ?

Also, Galchy is the first center, he's not two-way player, not yet.
 

DAChampion

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Which raises a question though :

Everybody wants a two-way player for the first and the second lines to handle tough matchups, and our 4th line C is Manny Malhotra.

In that situation, what is the problem with the 3rd C (say, DD, for the sake of the example) NOT being a 2-way player?

More versatile players decrease team vulnerability to injuries.

Further, I think people want Galchenyuk to get tge easy minutes not the two way minutes, at least for this year.
 

Smokey Thompson

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More versatile players decrease team vulnerability to injuries.

Further, I think people want Galchenyuk to get tge easy minutes not the two way minutes, at least for this year.

Until Eller comes back, Galchenyuk will have no choice but to play relatively tough 2way minutes.

DD-Parenteau is purely an exploitation line.
 

MXD

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Manny is an elite face-off taker and can play in the PK and we have a player (Eller) who can play 2 way. Why would we want DD on the third line ?

Also, Galchy is the first center, he's not two-way player, not yet.

More versatile players decrease team vulnerability to injuries.

Further, I think people want Galchenyuk to get tge easy minutes not the two way minutes, at least for this year.

Point taken. Maybe this thread wasn't the right one to ask such a question.

I mean, obviously, you want 12 2-way players in your lineup if you can.

My point was more in relation to the fact that the 3rd C NEEDS to be very good defensively (or better than that). That's understandable in theory (because you want safe play from your bottom-6, usually), but if your centers #1 and #2 are great defensively (say, for example, that our #1 and #2 are respectively Patrice Bergeron and Jonathan Toews; why on Earth do you absolutely want a player who's very good defensively on the 3rd line?)
 

MXD

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Until Eller comes back, Galchenyuk will have no choice but to play relatively tough 2way minutes.

DD-Parenteau is purely an exploitation line.

It's also an ill-conceived duo IMO, who is made look worse by the fact their LW doesn't exactly have good hands.

Still, I think the idea is to try things at this point. Exactly what the early part of the regular season should be about. DD/Parenteau could work, I just don't like this duo that much.
 

Bob b smith

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Until Eller comes back, Galchenyuk will have no choice but to play relatively tough 2way minutes.

DD-Parenteau is purely an exploitation line.

Not sure about that. Or at least the DD-PAP line will have less ozone starts than when DD was with Max. It'll probably be closer to 50% than 65. I just think putting Bournival on that line is a tip-off they want to make it more of a two-way line.
 

MXD

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If Eller is back soon...
Well, the easy answer is Ghetto sent down, Eller and Desharnais play either 2LW or 3C.

I think Ghetto deserves a longer look than, say, 5 games though.
 

MXD

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Not sure about that. Or at least the DD-PAP line will have less ozone starts than when DD was with Max. It'll probably be closer to 50% than 65. I just think putting Bournival on that line is a tip-off they want to make it more of a two-way line.

Actually, I think their OZS proportion might be similar, if only because they'll get LESS starts.
 

BaseballCoach

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Assuming Therriens new line combos stick

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Andrighetto- Plekanec-Sekac
Bournival-Desharnais-Parenteau
Prust-Malholtra-Weise

If Eller is ok and coming back soon, what should Therrien do?

When Eller comes back, he becomes a top-6 center, and Bournival, Andrighetto and Weise fight for one spot on the third line and one spot on the fourth line.

Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Gallagher
Pacioretty-Eller-Sekac
Andrighetto/Bournival-Desharnais-Parenteau
Prust-Malholtra-Weise/Bournival
Bournival/Andrighetto/Weise
 

MXD

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When Eller comes back, he becomes a top-6 center, and Bournival, Andrighetto and Weise fight for one spot on the third line and one spot on the fourth line.

Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Gallagher
Pacioretty-Eller-Sekac
Andrighetto/Bournival-Desharnais-Parenteau
Prust-Malholtra-Weise/Bournival
Bournival/Andrighetto/Weise

Good scenario, even though I'd switch 67 and 27. I still dislike 51 and 15 together, but if they do well, they'll remain together.
 

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