What Happened To Reducing The Size Of Goalie Equipment Issue?
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tny760
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those pads do literally nothing but stick up like wings, it's a complete joke
guys sitting on the bench are sucked down into their chesty like a f***in turtle
No one here has played goal. House league hockey shots hurt sometimes. Men’s league I got bruises. You stand in there and get hit
Yeah you gotta love a bunch of non-goalies going on and on about it.
"IT'S SO UNNECESSARY!!!!"
How much high level goal have you played? Oh none? Then how would you know what is and isn't necessary?
El Travo
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Thigh and off-angle shots in the ribs were the worst. My pants had a small gap where the padding came together and somehow I got hit there often.
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Nobody who has ever taken a legitimately hard shot to the shoulder would ever say this. Excluding shots that sneak through to your knee/lower thigh, the spot where your deltoid meets your pec is the worst place to take a shot.
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Not to talk about how the shoulder pads protect the neck from shots from the side or deflections off the upper arm in case of a high shot above shoulder.
Could that be, because the chest protector and pants have to overlap, so that in unusual positions during the saves the belly wont be exposed?
Oh come on. You and I both know that current goalie equipment is as much about blocking surface as it is about protection.
As a simple case: the obscene thigh rises seen on so many NHL goalies. Those exist to close the gaps in a wider butterfly stance. The pants as well as various knee pads and thigh boards already protect that area without necessarily creating more surface for stopping pucks.
the real problem is the size of goalies. Should probably put height and weight limits on the position.
I think the changes were a good start but they need to look at chest protectors. Regardless goalies will adapt and figure it out, the good ones anyways.
Not that there's anything you can do about it but the position has lost a lot of glory it used to have.
Height is the most important stat for a goalie.
It used to be exciting to watch a goalie work. Now days it's completely the opposite.
It's not about making the big save anymore. It's about not letting in the squaker.
Really no idea what can be done about it though and just lament of how hockey was a much more exciting game before the goalies ballooned up.
What are you talking about? The game has always been changing! These gigantic goalies and pads are new developments that have gotten out of hand. Take a look at clips of KenDryden, who was considered a giant in his day. He looks like a skinny boy in his pads.
The goalies are better, yes, but if you can't see that something is askew when you see the tenders that look like Flubber in the net then you simply haven't watched hockey over a long enough period of time to give you perspective.
Or it's a combination of that and trying to protect people from frozen disks of rubber flying at 100mph.
They fixed the thigh rises seasons ago, people don't realize though that having extra big pads is just as much of a hinderance as it is a plus, as seen by the fact that scoring has not gone up until the NHL finally started calling more penalties.
Thigh boards don't exist and I have no idea what you're talking about with the knee pads, but if you want to risk a 100mph destroying your goalie's knee so you can see a few more goals a year, that's your call, I completely disagree with it.
?? Not sure if you're being serious.
I'm referring to the thigh protection which is fixed to the goalie's pad above the knee:
As for knee pads, I'm talking about the ones which aren't attached to the pad:
stepdad gaary
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He is the same height as Andersen but 50 pounds lighter, yet look remarkably the same size lol
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what a hilariously bad argument? You know when people are heavier than other people they dont just like expand width wise?
tom leafers
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Its not an argument. Its a fact. But yes, it just goes to show how bulky and somewhat over sized goalie equipment can be.
Come on Man. Murray weighs 178 pounds according hockeydb. Freddy is at 230, but used to be in the 240s until he trimmed down this past off season. you honestly think 2 people who are the same height, but have a difference of 50-60 pounds between them are going to be the same width?
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Cotton McKnight
He left, get over it!
What? Are people really unhappy with how often goalies are getting beaten like rented mules? Do we really want the NHL to like the RHI in the 90's?
I may be skewed based on my teams goaltenders performances this season.
I may be skewed based on my teams goaltenders performances this season.
stepdad gaary
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the biggest chest protector in the world isnt gonna stop every shot hitting you in the elbow joint giving you a dead arm.
re-reading this sounds like im disagree with out but im not. my point is that even these "giant" C/A people complain about still dont protect everything and even a hard shot right in the chest is still gonna sting. These guys arent bubble boys out there.
Master Yoda
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What about the giant blockers and gloves? I don't see why they couldn't be smaller. Especially those gloves that look almost like a fishing net.
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blood gin
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The goalies have a valid gripe in that the players are shooting harder than ever with composite sticks, don't we deserve to adequately protect ourselves?
We have made some great progress in chipping away at massive goalie gear that we saw from the late 90's to mid 2000's, but there is still work to do
What Giguere looked like during the 2003 playoffs was absolutely comical.
We have made some great progress in chipping away at massive goalie gear that we saw from the late 90's to mid 2000's, but there is still work to do
What Giguere looked like during the 2003 playoffs was absolutely comical.
tom leafers
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No, but even its its an inch on the shoulders, an inch on the arms, and an inch in the hips, thats a big enough difference.
He is the same height as Andersen but 50 pounds lighter, yet look remarkably the same size lol
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Just like all the "LOOK HOW BIG THE GOALIES LOOK OMG" pictures in every thread in HF history. You're comparing one guy ready in his stance with his arms up and his shoulders spread and another guy standing with his shoulders slumped.
Anyone have that post where the guy kept zooming in on the goalies and showing how ridiculous the angle of the picture can make it look?
It's not about "big" per se as much as stiff chests that even adhere to good contours will seem big.
I also highly doubt that most of these guys using "big" chest protectors are even doing so, as a goalie this was the last thing I wanted to do as in go one size bigger (generally I was an M) which would destroy my movement.
These are also smaller than the 90s, you can shave the blocker a bit, but not much. You can make the glove slightly smaller, but not much either. Next time you're at a hockey shop, actually try on the goalie gear and honestly tell me that you feel as though you have some massive pizza on your hand that you can nab everything with.
