It seems to me those were the players they were targeting anyway so I assume they know them well. Problem is the addition of Patrick or Hischier likely pulls Buffalo away from a top-10 selection next year.
What current player would you accept for the number two pick?
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It seems to me those were the players they were targeting anyway so I assume they know them well. Problem is the addition of Patrick or Hischier likely pulls Buffalo away from a top-10 selection next year.
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That would be worth considering as well because the 2018 Draft is already being compared to 2015 and 2003 in terms of elite depth. Buffalo is headed for another top 10 pick next season unless they get a major "1st year with a new coach bump."
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Personally I don't get why some people are up in arms over threads like this. The whole point of a message board is to discuss various talking points. The flyers are going to do whatever they want with the pick and I find topics like these to be at least some sort of interesting conversation rather than continually talking to death about Nico vs Nolan when it isn't the flyers decision.
Since this is just speculative fun, I would take either Eichel or Laine and throw in Konecny.
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That would be really hard for me to pull the trigger on before seeing Nico/Nolan play in the NHL.
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I would consider the following trade...
TO TAM
- 2nd overall
- Hagg
TO PHI
- Drouin
- 14th overall
That said, I only do this because I think Drouin can be a very special offensive player (80-85 point talent) and they would also get a very good player at 14 (only 1 spot lower than their original pick).
Plus, with Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim, Morin, Myers, etc. ... Hagg is a commodity that can be moved IMO.
TO TAM
- 2nd overall
- Hagg
TO PHI
- Drouin
- 14th overall
That said, I only do this because I think Drouin can be a very special offensive player (80-85 point talent) and they would also get a very good player at 14 (only 1 spot lower than their original pick).
Plus, with Provorov, Gostisbehere, Sanheim, Morin, Myers, etc. ... Hagg is a commodity that can be moved IMO.
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Ya, any proposal that does not directly solve the remaining problem of a top flight scoring C going forward simply isn't in the best interest of the club.
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That's the issue - it's hard to pass on a #1C for a winger. I would say, unless they feel the winger is a superior talent and the player they can get at #14 can make a larger impact than Hagg.
I mean, I honestly think Drouin has the chops to be a Gaudreau/Kane type talent... not as great as Kane but on par or better than Gaudreau. You're talking world-class wingers here, not just a "decent winger."
My gut feeling is the Flyers are in love with the thought of drafting Patrick - he's got "Flyer" written all over him. If the Devils take him at 1, I don't think the Flyers will love the idea of Hischier as much. That's just me.
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Yeah....we have just been gifted a top 6 C that should be a #1C. We are not trading that away. And I am from Halifax who loves Drouin. Drouin might outscore whoever we pick, but I don't think it will be a 20 point swing. I think it will be a 5-10 difference but our pick will be better defensively, play a position of need, and play a more important position.
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I wouldn't call Nico undersized and from what the little I've read/noticed he is a two way player. If both players hit their potential the flyers have a home run either way.
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Patrick's still bigger & more filled out to this point. He's probably more adavanced of the two & really I don't see anyway he doesn't play center at the next level. Hischier could end up being a winger.
I think stylistic Patrick is closer to guys like Kopitar & Couturier who Hextall really covets those types.
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This is another thing I've been considering. If Hischier gets the Alex Galchenyuk treatment (flip flopping C/W but mostly playing W) then not trading the pick + Hagg for a true, high-end W who is proven like Drouin + 14th overall would end up being a huge non - trade.
If the Flyers are convinced that Hischier is a can't miss #1C then they should stand pat. But Drouin has shown what he can do on NHL ice - down the stretch he was one of the most dynamic talents in the entire NHL. He steps in tomorrow on a top line and immediately makes the Flyers better.
And I am fairly confident the player we could get at 14 would have more of an impact (and ultimately fill a better need) than Hagg.
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I can definitely see what you mean. Patrick definitely has the size and will probably put on a few more healthy pounds. Kind of a bean pole to be 198 at 6'3".
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Problem with trading the #2 pick in a deal for Drouin, is he's due a hefty bump in pay and you're only guaranteed to have him for 4 more seasons. That #2 pick could make an impact as soon as next year and you'll have him for at least 7 seasons. That #2 pick is likely going to fill the biggest organizational need as well.
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I don't think there's a realistic trade out there.
It's already been pointed out that there's huge value in drafting a top young player who is cost-controlled for several seasons.
Plus, with Hischier and Patrick, you are talking about an elusive #1C prospect which are pretty much impossible to acquire without drafting.
Drouin is a wing and I think Hischier and Patrick project to be at least as good or better while playing a more valuable position. So I wouldn't trade the pick for Drouin.
MacKinnon you may actually be able to get, but something is wrong there. He should be better than he is and it scares me that he's not and that he's the top center on such a terribly performing team. So I'm not going to get 4 years older and an immediate $5M cap hit.
Barkov, Eichel, Drasaitl, etc., you aren't going to be able to get. So for all intents and purposes, the #2 pick ain't going anywhere if I'm GM.
It's already been pointed out that there's huge value in drafting a top young player who is cost-controlled for several seasons.
Plus, with Hischier and Patrick, you are talking about an elusive #1C prospect which are pretty much impossible to acquire without drafting.
Drouin is a wing and I think Hischier and Patrick project to be at least as good or better while playing a more valuable position. So I wouldn't trade the pick for Drouin.
MacKinnon you may actually be able to get, but something is wrong there. He should be better than he is and it scares me that he's not and that he's the top center on such a terribly performing team. So I'm not going to get 4 years older and an immediate $5M cap hit.
Barkov, Eichel, Drasaitl, etc., you aren't going to be able to get. So for all intents and purposes, the #2 pick ain't going anywhere if I'm GM.
I'm not a Drouin guy so I would never consider trading the pick for him. He's 22 with attitude issues, without a contract, and he's no doubt looking to get paid.
I would do it for MacKinnon, but Colorado would not entertain it so there's that.
I would do it for MacKinnon, but Colorado would not entertain it so there's that.
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Can you just close this. I cannot wait for the draft cause there is going to be crap flooding the site
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