What could greatly improve this team?
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deadhead
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Time.
Need to get JVR back.
Need for Sanheim to keep developing.
Need time for Lindblom - Patrick - TK to jell.
Need time for the 2 PP (5 kids 23 or younger) to jell.
Need time for Hart to be NHL ready.
Need time for some of the LHV kids to be NHL ready.
Sure we could trade for a top 4 defenseman, but they're expensive and we'd have to hear about the kids are being block the next four years.
Need to get JVR back.
Need for Sanheim to keep developing.
Need time for Lindblom - Patrick - TK to jell.
Need time for the 2 PP (5 kids 23 or younger) to jell.
Need time for Hart to be NHL ready.
Need time for some of the LHV kids to be NHL ready.
Sure we could trade for a top 4 defenseman, but they're expensive and we'd have to hear about the kids are being block the next four years.
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I want to see Gostisbehere unleashed
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I want to see them all unleashed, but that's a coaching issue. I honestly can't think of anything that would greatly improve us that doesn't ultimately go back to the coaching.
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Am I correct for assuming most of that should happen by the end of the year besides Hart and the LHV kids?
Who are the LHV kids replacing? Most of the roster at least forward wise looks pretty good and personally Hagg isn't bad for a bottom defending pair if MacDonald could get blasted off in the moon.
If Trouba could be acquired (without losing much currently) I'd be fine with hearing people complain since I think the roster would be greatly improved.
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sorry, nothing changes the teams direction without a HC change to a real NHL level coach.
pure truth.
pure truth.
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Friedman/Myers/Morin - AMac
Rubtsov - Knight/Lehtera
Twarynski could push Laughton and Lindblom at LW or Simmonds at RW
Lyon, Stolarz are the insurance we need if Elliott looks geriatric and when Neuvirth goes on IR once again.
Problem with Trouba is what Hamilton cost, the equivalent of Provorov and TK.
I don't think he'd come cheap I'd be looking for a veteran with 1-2 years left that a team wants to dump who can still play.
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He’s the best defenseman on the Flyers. He should be the leader in 5v5 minutes, no?
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I won't disagree with you there, I've made a few points that I think he should get some PK time as well. If only for practice and in possible injury situations.
This team needs another top defenseman and not a rookie but someone that’s relatively established. Sanheim and Myers looks like they will be great in the future but they need sheltering. Even Provorov and Ghost could use another guy when they struggle to help.
It will cost a big payment in cap and prospects but this team isn’t going anywhere anytime soon without another defenseman.
It will cost a big payment in cap and prospects but this team isn’t going anywhere anytime soon without another defenseman.
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Lethera I don't think has really been a problem, in fact he's looked pretty good in my eyes this season. So really you're only talking about possibly replacing AMac that would result in improvement.
Admittedly I don't know much about Shattenkirk but he's a possible RHD that could be a replacement for a few years if he wants out of New York. The question would be whether he's a fit or not?
I am not sure anything can. Hextall isnt going to change or adjust his philosophy....and the organization seems content going down with his ship.
We are going to be stuck in mediocrety.
We are going to be stuck in mediocrety.
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How many Fire Hakstok threads do we need?!
We would be better off creating a Seinfeld thread.
We would be better off creating a Seinfeld thread.
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Any team that has bottom ten goalies will be stuck in mediocrity, of the teams that made the playoffs last year, Flyers were 22 and Penguins 25, next team was NJ at 18.
Of the teams that didn't make the playoffs, Florida #7, Dallas #15 had the highest S%.
So while you don't need great goal tending, you do need goaltenders in the top half of the league.
Until we get them, we're not going anywhere.
Basically Hextall is building around Hart (and Sandstrom as his backup, and Ustimenko, Federov and Ercsson as insurance policies).
Does anyone think Lyon and Stolarz can realistically be top half of the league starting goaltenders?
Of the teams that didn't make the playoffs, Florida #7, Dallas #15 had the highest S%.
So while you don't need great goal tending, you do need goaltenders in the top half of the league.
Until we get them, we're not going anywhere.
Basically Hextall is building around Hart (and Sandstrom as his backup, and Ustimenko, Federov and Ercsson as insurance policies).
Does anyone think Lyon and Stolarz can realistically be top half of the league starting goaltenders?
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Limiting farmer's minutes
Splitting up Hagg and farmer
Using Ghost for the full 2 minutes of the powerplay (Sanheim as second Dman on the second unit)
Penalty kill units should include Coots/Laughton/Raffl/Giroux/Torg/Lindblom and Provy/Ghost/Gudas/Sanheim - all in order of minute usage. Farmer and Hagg have too low of a hockey iq to play the overly passive formation we have now, without them they should be able to effectively play a more aggressive and faster pace scheme.
No Hak shell
Replace Hak with Gritty
Splitting up Hagg and farmer
Using Ghost for the full 2 minutes of the powerplay (Sanheim as second Dman on the second unit)
Penalty kill units should include Coots/Laughton/Raffl/Giroux/Torg/Lindblom and Provy/Ghost/Gudas/Sanheim - all in order of minute usage. Farmer and Hagg have too low of a hockey iq to play the overly passive formation we have now, without them they should be able to effectively play a more aggressive and faster pace scheme.
No Hak shell
Replace Hak with Gritty
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Steve Mason posted pretty good stats on this team a few years ago, do you think the Flyers should try and acquire him as a re-tread? The current nucleus of Elliot and Neuvy hasn't/won't work.
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I think Mason has had enough of hockey. He considered retiring before and there are rumors he’s considering retirement now.
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I think I have to sadly concur. The few vets we have on D are the last guys we want teaching new kids: an overpaid palsy patient and a neutered goon.
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Trouba won’t cost anywhere close to Hamilton, he’s a UFA after next year. Hamilton is on a great contract.
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