Pre-Game Talk: Week 11: Ranta(nen) Claus is coming to town. (@chi, ott, ari)

henchman21

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The motivation for Bednar’s allocation of time on ice may not be exclusively win now. It could be principled (ie Johansen hasn’t earned ice time) and if he relents and gives Johansen 20 minutes, maybe MacFarland isn’t even looking for 2Cs. If getting a proper 2C is integral to sparing lessening the workload of others, not giving Johansen minutes he’s not earning can easily be viewed as big picture thinking.
Bednar's own words on Nuke's 29 minutes contradict your thought process on this.
 

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He's saying to win he'll play him as much as he needs to. This isn't a message, this is about winning the game in front of them.


He’s not also saying, that for him to play the second line more, he needs a better 2C? They’re not mutually exclusive.
 

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That’s a direct message to CMac telling him to get up off his ass and do something
 

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He’s not also saying, that for him to play the second line more, he needs a better 2C? They’re not mutually exclusive.
He's saying that the 2nd line needs to play better to get more minutes. That to win games right now, he is utilizing the team the best he can.

There are surely discussions about what the team is lacking between Bednar and MacFarland... but the high minutes are not to 'send a message' they are to win the game.
 

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That's as clear a message as any to us that we suck and should have tanked for Bedard last year. How can't any of you see it?
 

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This is just Bednar doing what is necessary to win games. He is not sending a message to CMac. I am sure they have sat down together and discuss what needs to be done to improve the team. I am also sure CMac has told Bednar the reasons it has yet to happen so far and I'm convinced Bednar understands those reasons.
 
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He's saying that the 2nd line needs to play better to get more minutes. That to win games right now, he is utilizing the team the best he can.

There are surely discussions about what the team is lacking between Bednar and MacFarland... but the high minutes are not to 'send a message' they are to win the game.

Saying the 2nd line needs to play better to get more minutes isn’t also saying “this lazy guy you brought in on the cheap isn’t good enough”?
 

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Saying the 2nd line needs to play better to get more minutes isn’t also saying “this lazy guy you brought in on the cheap isn’t good enough”?
You're attributing what is happening on the ice to it having to be a public message to the front office. These guys have worked together for years and have surely been talking about the team for years, Bednar isn't going to play RyJo 5 minutes a game just to publicly humiliate CMac to make moves...
 

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You're attributing what is happening on the ice to it having to be a public message to the front office. These guys have worked together for years and have surely been talking about the team for years, Bednar isn't going to play RyJo 5 minutes a game just to publicly humiliate CMac to make moves...

Playing RJ 12 minutes a game is playing the roster as it was intended at he beginning? Calling out is an arbitrary choice of words. One might also calling it insisting on RJ providing a certain effort level. Or maybe hat RJ is incapable of doing it no matter how hard he tries. It ends up in the same place.
 

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Just saw a patient that is golf buddies with one of the ex-Avs defensemen of all time, Andre Benoit. Back in the coach Roy days.
 
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