OT: Washington Commanders: 2023 Offseason, the “Sell Dan, Sell” Thread

[g00n]

Firing Norv was one of the few things he got right. Just took way too long.

They made the playoffs the previous season and won the first round, and lost by 1pt to TB in the next round. They had a winning record.

It made no logical sense. If there were some brilliant countermove available that would improve on that, then sure. Go for it. But it turned out Snyder was just being Snyder.

 

[Random schmoe]

A 4th round pick.

Can't picture their 1st rounder that same year being quite as professional and tough.

But then again he wasn't in the league long enough to have much sample size.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

They made the playoffs the previous season and won the first round, and lost by 1pt to TB in the next round. They had a winning record.

It made no logical sense. If there were some brilliant countermove available that would improve on that, then sure. Go for it. But it turned out Snyder was just being Snyder.

He was terrible. Shouldn’t have lasted as long as he did. And sure…Snyder is always being Snyder. Norv still blew ass..

 

[Jags]

When did you realize Snyder was a terrible owner?

Vinny Cerrato.

The ongoing commitment to that guy confounded me. Prior to that, Snyder still had that new owner smell -- made mistakes, but was swinging for the fences and willing to spend. Without the benefit of hindsight, one could hope that he'd outgrow those tendencies and let football people do their work.

Letting Shottenheimer fire Cerrato felt like a nod in that direction to me. Then Shotty was canned and Cerrato was rehired... as VP of Football Operations. That's when it clicked. All the effort to figure him out stopped, no more equivocating or excuses.

"Oh. I see it now. This guy's just an asshole. We're so screwed."

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

He was terrible. Shouldn’t have lasted as long as he did. And sure…Snyder is always being Snyder. Norv still blew ass..

Norv should have left with Heath Schuler.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

It was time to part ways with Norv. I would have like to see them let Norv coach the entire season but Norv had to go.

I have never disliked a Skins HC more. Smarmy mf‘er was soooo bad as a HC……….OC…fine…..but not a Leader of Men.

 

[John Price]

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

I have never disliked a Skins HC more. Smarmy mf‘er was soooo bad as a HC……….OC…fine…..but not a Leader of Men.

I changed my response when I thought back on Norvell. Heath Shuler failure was on him. That was the time to give Norv the boot.

Still don’t think he should have been fired mid season. That never does anything but make things worse.

 

[Roric]

Anyone who's been to a game recently..is it worth the time and money? Haven't gone in probably 15 years but thinking about it this season

 

[g00n]

Scary Terry #8 rated WR in Madden

 

[kicksavedave]

I changed my response when I thought back on Norvell. Heath Shuler failure was on him. That was the time to give Norv the boot.

Still don’t think he should have been fired mid season. That never does anything but make things worse.

Norv achieved the unique distinction as being fired both too late and too soon all at the same time. He should have been fired after 1998 when they missed the playoffs for the 6th straight year, (or after Heath bombed out) but he should not have been fired 13 games in to the 2000 season either. He should have been given the rest of that season and then fired on the day the season ended. But, Dan Snyder is Dan Snyder and he finds new and interesting ways to do things wrong.

 

[Random schmoe]

Assuming this deal goes through I'll probably be willing to watch and care about the football team in Raljon again.

 

[Brian23]

Full steam ahead.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

Full steam ahead.

 

[John Price]

Anyone who's been to a game recently..is it worth the time and money? Haven't gone in probably 15 years but thinking about it this season

I don't think I can tell you an unbiased answer. Stadium is stinky but the tailgate is great and the tickets are filling up fast for this season. Prices appear to be higher than years past as fans are going back again now that Snyder is allegedly gone in 3 days.

The Bills game Week 3 is selling fast and nearly out.

So if you want my unbiased opinion, yes, but wait a while. See how the offense does.

 

[usiel]

Full steam ahead.

It has finally happened. Up next stadium.

 

[kicksavedave]

I'm going to laugh when the vote is 30-1 and the 1 is John f***ing Mara. Even Jerry Jones will be sad to see Danny go, but he'll vote yes.

 

[Neil Racki]

Harris estimates spending about $88 million to “help establish ownership’s commitment to fan/player experience” — including for new videoboards and a locker room update — and says the group is assuming the need for $100 million for “immediate structural repairs” and maintenance to FedEx Field. Harris also estimates spending $43 million to upgrade loge boxes and suites. The document cites that under Harris, the 76ers climbed NBA ticket rankings from 27th in 2014-15 to fifth in 2021-22.

Josh Harris purchase of the Commanders — an NFL franchise with huge upside opportunity

A license to print money

www.hogshaven.com

Local sports talking heads saying Harris is going to put money into upgrading the things not visible to fans but vital to success like state of the art facilities, locker rooms, training etc. During Shanny's time he tried to not bring FAs to the team facilities bc it was embarrassing and he didnt want to show them until after they signed. A former Skin player from Wake Forest (?) said WF facilities were better.

Lets go!

 

[kicksavedave]

Harris estimates spending about $88 million to “help establish ownership’s commitment to fan/player experience” — including for new videoboards and a locker room update — and says the group is assuming the need for $100 million for “immediate structural repairs” and maintenance to FedEx Field. Harris also estimates spending $43 million to upgrade loge boxes and suites. The document cites that under Harris, the 76ers climbed NBA ticket rankings from 27th in 2014-15 to fifth in 2021-22.

Josh Harris purchase of the Commanders — an NFL franchise with huge upside opportunity

A license to print money

www.hogshaven.com

Local sports talking heads saying Harris is going to put money into upgrading the things not visible to fans but vital to success like state of the art facilities, locker rooms, training etc. During Shanny's time he tried to not bring FAs to the team facilities bc it was embarrassing and he didnt want to show them until after they signed. A former Skin player from Wake Forest (?) said WF facilities were better.

Lets go!

I'm not an expert, but my first suggestion would be to stop raining sewage down on the fans every 3rd game. Take it slow and work your way up to the luxury boxes and suites.

 

[usiel]

I'm not an expert, but my first suggestion would be to stop raining sewage down on the fans every 3rd game. Take it slow and work your way up to the luxury boxes and suites.

Fixing those exit rails should also be high on the list.

 

[kicksavedave]

Fixing those exit rails should also be high on the list.

There's lots to do.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Anyone who's been to a game recently..is it worth the time and money? Haven't gone in probably 15 years but thinking about it this season

I went last year for the first time in a decade. It was against the Falcons and the weather stunk but I had more fun than I thought I would. Traffic wasn’t nearly as bad as I remembered (probably due to weather). Beers were expensive but that’s to be expected.

Our tickets and parking were free so I can’t comment on the cost but you can find cheap tickets for almost any game, especially if the opponent is not a team with a big road following.

I was pleasantly surprised with the experience but I also didn’t pay for it so I was playing with house money anyway.

 

[g00n]

If there's new ownership there may be a honeymoon period where tix are more expensive. If they go 0-6 then the SOS factor might kick in and prices/attendance could drop.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

With the season so close I dont think Fedex will be any better this season. Go to the tailgate then go home and watch on TV lol.

Another thing I hated was depending on where you parked and tickets are it sometimes took us 45 min to walk to our seats.
Never enough bathrooms for the women in the parking lot.
Needs to be more handicap friendly, If you have trouble walking its going to be hard on you.

Not to mention we have the worst reputation for turf conditions. Its a running joke for other teams everyone blows out their knees on our painted dirt.

 

[Neil Racki]

1 pm Friday theres a Training Camp Pep Rally at Fed Ex with Josh Harris maybe being there.

Time slot sucks if they hope to have a good crowd.

Make it a 6 pm start w Wiz Khalifa and Jah Works or something. Get some grills going.

IDK maybe they need time to get things set up but I hope they do have a big blowout party on a weekend