Proposal: W. Nylander for Max Domi

[sansabri]

You think we'll find out if he can do it in the playoffs before he retires?

Might be sooner than you think.

 

[TheNumber4]

A laughable offer here. Nylander isn't worth Domi. Not close.

 

[Sniper99]

it's like asking Toronto to trade Tavares for Evander Kane. Such a dumb proposition

wow, thats a bad comparison.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

wow, thats a bad comparison.

You clearly don't understand how better Domi is over Nylander....
Offense, grit, physicality, heart, defense, break away, shots, balance and both are agile.

do I continue ? Nylander is not even near him. The more we see Domi play the more we see his raw talent, he's a superstar and he was born to play in a big market like Subban

 

[Einzakin]

Yeah Im a Leaf fan and if Im Montreal there's no way I trade Domi for Nylander. Domi seems like that heart and soul type player while Willy is an incredibly skilled player with an ego.

 

[firstemperor]

Going back to last year towards the remaining 14 games Domi had 15 pts in Arizona. In Montreal he does not have the luxury of playing with some of the talented players Toronto has, Plus fact that our PP is one of the worst in the league and is a very good 5 on 5 player, Nylander is also overpaid by about 1.5-2 million.
Maybe some people just do not understand that in the playoff's you win with guys like Domi and not just having bunch of soft skilled forwards. In fact I would argue Domi has just as much skill as Nylander, but has twice the heart, drive, and toughness. I would never in a million years do this trade straight up. In fact I would not even consider Nylander, 1st, and B prospect, for Domi, Toronto still has to add. Why would we give up our Number 1 center for a perimeter soft skilled forward. Anyway that is my opinion and stated some of the reasons I have come to the conclusion.

Don't sell Nylander short, he is very much a player with the upside to be a #1C, particularly on a team with horrid center depth like Montreal. Domi would never crack playing C in Toronto and no one is convinced he has the ability to play that role long-term beside Hab fans.

Just because he has default overachieved being plugged into that role for a quarter of a season with ample opportunity and ice-time does not prove anything.

If you want to use the PP argument at Nylander, then age and usage adjust for his stats, as he doesn't get the same opportunity in Toronto than Domi gets in Montreal. Let's not even get into the discussion before this season.

 

[Tanknation]

You have to take yourself and things less seriously. Its a trade proposal thread and people have the right to have varying opinions.

I advise that you stay on topic by contributing something meaningful to the thread or move on if you dont want to.

I just can't help it when some people make such awful proposals, and for pages you have people having the audacity to think this would be fair one for one trade, or worst yet even think Nylander is more valuable!! which is a total joke.

 

[Tanknation]

Don't sell Nylander short, he is very much a player with the upside to be a #1C, particularly on a team with horrid center depth like Montreal. Domi would never crack playing C in Toronto and no one is convinced he has the ability to play that role long-term beside Hab fans.

This is clearly so agenda driven and reeks of so much bias towards your own teams over paid, soft player, that their is literally zero point in having a discussion with you.

 

[Swedish Gretzky]

I just can't help it when some people make such awful proposals, and for pages you have people having the audacity to think this would be fair one for one trade, or worst yet even think Nylander is more valuable!! which is a total joke.

I didn't say that nor did I ever imply it. The premise of the thread was that the 2 players in my opinion are comparable in asset value. You can agree or disagree and move on.

Please don't make things up - it makes you delusional by definition and its counterproductive and to this discussion.

 

[firstemperor]

This is clearly so agenda driven and reeks of so much bias towards your own teams over paid, soft player, that their is literally zero point in having a discussion with you.

No point in responding to this. I firmly and objectively believe Nylander is a far superior talent than Domi. You can spew nonsense it's marred in bias all you want, the funny thing is it's mutual on my end, so we can each do each other favors and not provide commentary of either of our posts.

 

[sheed36]

I like Nylander as a player. He's a very skilled guy and in some games I watched last season he looked like the best Leaf on the ice in some games. No doubt the guy can produce offense but he seems to play a soft game and avoids contact like it's the plague.

While IMO Domi may not be as skilled as Nylander I really don't see Domi being that far behind Nylander in the skill department. Both are very skilled players. Domi though plays a way more grittier and in your face style of game compared to Nylander so that's a plus in Domi's favor and he's currently the Habs #1 center putting up a PPG.

I wouldn't be upset if both players were traded for each other even with the Habs adding but I don't see any reason for the Habs to trade Domi at this point.

 

[slybel]

Close thread.... My eyes hurt!

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Yeah Im a Leaf fan and if Im Montreal there's no way I trade Domi for Nylander. Domi seems like that heart and soul type player while Willy is an incredibly skilled player with an ego.

is he annoyed when he talks to the media in toronto ?

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Don't sell Nylander short, he is very much a player with the upside to be a #1C

what ? lol

 

[Apollo Leaf]

Outproducing as in, Domi is doing things thing season that Nylander has been incapable of doing.

What are you even talking about. Nylander has posted back to back 60+pt seasons, something Domi hasn't even come close to accomplishing. Nylander had more goals last season than Domi had in 2 years combined.

Domi puts up a PPG thru 30 games and all of a sudden Nylander is a much inferior player in your eyes. Okay then.

Listen, I actually like Domi and I'm a Leafs fan. But I will take the player who has had a much better career every time.

 

[Cobra Commander]

What are you even talking about. Nylander has posted back to back 60+pt seasons, something Domi hasn't even come close to accomplishing. Nylander had more goals last season than Domi had in 2 years combined.

Domi puts up a PPG thru 30 games and all of a sudden Nylander is a much inferior player in your eyes. Okay then.

Listen, I actually like Domi and I'm a Leafs fan. But i

After this season it’s Nylander who will have to catch up to this great season Domi is having. And FYI he’s been PPG for 50+ games now! He is already proving this season to be the better goal scorer than Nylander and he’s a Center on top of it!

Right now, in the real world Domi is the better player. We’ll see if Nylander can get it going this season, that remains to be seen.

 

[bobholly39]

I think these are two players with very comparable value on the trade market. Doesn't make sense for either team though.

Domi has been such a great fit/player in Montreal - why trade him when things are finally clicking? Nylander may have more upside, but it's also a big risk as he may not fit in/chemistry may not click, etc.

Nylander. He's always had a ton of upside. Although i've always been higher up on Marner than him - i'm pretty sure most Leafs fan had it the other way around in the past. I think he can still reach quite high. I don't see why Toronto trades that away, they can be patient with him with guys like Marner, Matthews and Tavares firing on all cylinders atm.

 

[ACC1224]

I think these are two players with very comparable value on the trade market. Doesn't make sense for either team though.

Domi has been such a great fit/player in Montreal - why trade him when things are finally clicking? Nylander may have more upside, but it's also a big risk as he may not fit in/chemistry may not click, etc.

Nylander. He's always had a ton of upside. Although i've always been higher up on Marner than him - i'm pretty sure most Leafs fan had it the other way around in the past. I think he can still reach quite high. I don't see why Toronto trades that away, they can be patient with him with guys like Marner, Matthews and Tavares firing on all cylinders atm.

Nylander does have "a ton of upside" but I can see a scenario where he is moved.
It wouldn't be for Domi though, that would be idiotic.

 

[dm1371]

I know Nylander is skilled, but Domi is more important to the Habs so no

 

[Sniper99]

You clearly don't understand how better Domi is over Nylander....
Offense, grit, physicality, heart, defense, break away, shots, balance and both are agile.

do I continue ? Nylander is not even near him. The more we see Domi play the more we see his raw talent, he's a superstar and he was born to play in a big market like Subban

And you CLEARLY dont understand how brutal your comparison was. Please dont continue. You're looking bad.

Its great to see Domi doing well in an actual hockey market compared to that non hockey market AZ. He needed to get out of there badly. I still take Nylander though and I dont understand why this thread is still going on neither team makes this kinda trade.

 

[Captain97]

Can this thread get locked already it's been 15 pages of both fanbases saying their guy is better and would never do this trade.

 

[ole ole]

Don't sell Nylander short, he is very much a player with the upside to be a #1C, particularly on a team with horrid center depth like Montreal. Domi would never crack playing C in Toronto and no one is convinced he has the ability to play that role long-term beside Hab fans.

Just because he has default overachieved being plugged into that role for a quarter of a season with ample opportunity and ice-time does not prove anything.

If you want to use the PP argument at Nylander, then age and usage adjust for his stats, as he doesn't get the same opportunity in Toronto than Domi gets in Montreal. Let's not even get into the discussion before this season.

Who knows if Nylander can play center at the NHL level let alone be effective at that position.
See while one may have the upside to be a # 1 C and that's a BIG maybe the other is proving that he IS a #1 C in the NHL.

 

[Lshap]

The subject is rapidly devolving into bickering. Closed.