Vote: Keep or Fire Blash

[nhlisawesome]

Can Yzerman please fire this clown before we literally have zero fans showing up at the rink?

 

[SuperScript29]

As much as I'm not a fan of it, but don't be surprised if you see Babcock back here.

 

[Peter Tosh]

Changed my vote from letting him stay until seasons end to getting fired asap. At least the team has to try to win games, or at least show some effort. Blashill has to go right away to show that this organization still has some pride left

 

[Dotter]

Can Yzerman please fire this clown before we literally have zero fans showing up at the rink?

Firing Blashill will do nothing and fans are still going to suffer. This isn't a coach issue, it's a talentless team issue.

 

[MBH]

Firing Blashill will do nothing and fans are still going to suffer. This isn't a coach issue, it's a talentless team issue.

It's a coach issue.
This team has largely stopped playing. They're going through the motions at the first sign of adversity.
This team is -53 over the last 24 games.
That kind of thing hasn't been seen since when? The 90s?

An OK coach would have these guys skating hard, working hard, fighting for loose pucks... lots of losses, lots of loser points.
But getting the doors blown off on a regular basis?

There's no denying this team lacks talent. But so does Ottawa. And they're bad. But they make it respectable.

 

[MBH]

As much as I'm not a fan of it, but don't be surprised if you see Babcock back here.

No chance.

 

[Dotter]

It's a coach issue.
This team has largely stopped playing. They're going through the motions at the first sign of adversity.
This team is -53 over the last 24 games.
That kind of thing hasn't been seen since when? The 90s?

An OK coach would have these guys skating hard, working hard, fighting for loose pucks... lots of losses, lots of loser points.
But getting the doors blown off on a regular basis?

There's no denying this team lacks talent. But so does Ottawa. And they're bad. But they make it respectable.

Ottawa has some talent. Wings do not.

No coach can fix soft talentless players. Not even Scotty Bowman. It's fallacy. It's "grass is greener" syndrome, it's fictional fairytale shit from watching too many happy movies.


And to those who think at LOL Blysma being the "solution" to HC. LMAO!!!

 

[RedWingzz]

Ottawa has some talent. Wings do not.

No coach can fix soft talentless players. Not even Scotty Bowman. It's fallacy. It's "grass is greener" syndrome, it's fictional fairytale **** from watching too many happy movies.


And to those who think at LOL Blysma being the "solution" to HC. LMAO!!!

Show me one person who said Bylsma is the answer. That's not what we're saying. We're saying the current product is unacceptable, lack of talent or not. Promote Bylsma on an interim basis, and then figure it out later. I don't understand how anyone could possibly want to keep Blashill arou d right now. The environment is toxic, there is a consistent lack of effort. Why not switch it up?

 

[Hen Kolland]

It's a coach issue.
This team has largely stopped playing. They're going through the motions at the first sign of adversity.
This team is -53 over the last 24 games.
That kind of thing hasn't been seen since when? The 90s?

An OK coach would have these guys skating hard, working hard, fighting for loose pucks... lots of losses, lots of loser points.
But getting the doors blown off on a regular basis?

There's no denying this team lacks talent. But so does Ottawa. And they're bad. But they make it respectable.

To an extent I’m sure the struggles can be pinned on a coaching issue for Detroit, but you also see those blow up games for Ottawa too. They lost today 7-2 to the Wild.

I think the big thing that’s a glaring issue is man games lost on the back end. You of all posters seem to point to how bad the defensive players are. Even with a full strength defensive group you dislike what we have to offer (as we all do). Including today, the Wings have played 28 games. The key defensemen that I’ll consider are Hronek, Dekeyser, Nemeth, Green, and Daley, as I considered them to be 5 starters night in and night out, barring injury of course. That’s 140 man games if all 5 were playing nightly.

We’ve lost 53 of those 140 man games so far in just those 5 skaters. That doesn’t include games where Green or Daley got hurt and played only a period, which I know both have had at least one of those games this year. Obviously that means on average we are missing almost 2 players per game (and we know they started full strength back there and things were respectable).

Tack on a team save percentage of something around .880-.890. Tack on early season nagging injuries to Athanasiou and Larkin.

Compare that to Ottawa now, who have a team save percentage over .910. Has a higher PDO. Have had 5 defensemen play in every or damn near every game this year. The differences are substantial enough to support the Wings being a much worse team this year.

Honestly, the coaching decision doesn’t impact me in any form, mainly because I’m expecting the change to happen at this point. It’s not the button I’m choosing first if I’m Yzerman, because I think it comes at the expense of having the kids suffer through Bylsma, who’s track record with a young/rebuilding Buffalo team, is pretty disheartening. I also don’t think it’s the kind of kick in the ass that is going to change much in the locker room. That comes when you remove an important piece from the roster for futures. But, the coaching change is the easiest, and I’m sure will be the first domino to fall.

 

[CaptainZetterberg40]

I'm sure Blash will stay the whole season, but in my opinion the most important detail that will matter when Yzerman has the option of picking up Blash's 2nd year is whether or not that based on what Yzerman has seen through the 19/20 season, does he agree with Blash's systematic philosphy/style of play in relation to the rest of the league?

Like mentioned above, what makes this so frustrating is that Byalsma is known for implementing a frustrating style of play as well.

 

[Dotter]

Show me one person who said Bylsma is the answer. That's not what we're saying. We're saying the current product is unacceptable, lack of talent or not. Promote Bylsma on an interim basis, and then figure it out later. I don't understand how anyone could possibly want to keep Blashill arou d right now. The environment is toxic, there is a consistent lack of effort. Why not switch it up?

Promoting Blysma isn't going to fix the "toxic" situation. Blysma wouldn't be an upgrade. Hire a proven coach like Trotz, and I'll be onboard. Just firing to fire makes no sense unless there is a clear upgrade.

No self respecting coach wants to coach this shithole.

 

[NotLeddy]

Ottawa has some talent. Wings do not.

Lol

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

Promoting Blysma isn't going to fix the "toxic" situation. Blysma wouldn't be an upgrade. Hire a proven coach like Trotz, and I'll be onboard. Just firing to fire makes no sense unless there is a clear upgrade.

No self respecting coach wants to coach this ****hole.

I wish everybody could see this.

 

[MBH]

Ottawa has some talent. Wings do not.

No coach can fix soft talentless players. Not even Scotty Bowman. It's fallacy. It's "grass is greener" syndrome, it's fictional fairytale **** from watching too many happy movies.


And to those who think at LOL Blysma being the "solution" to HC. LMAO!!!

Ottawa doesn't have more talent than Detroit.

Buffalo BEFORE Bylsma; .317 and .329.
Buffalo DURING Bylsma: .494 and .476.
Buffalo AFTER Bylsma .378.

Bylsma may not be a coveted NHL coach.
But he's miles better than Blashill.

* Has won a Stanley Cup.
* Has a career record of 320-190-55
* Has won seven playoff series.
* His .485 record in Buffalo is better than Blash's .473 record in Detroit

 

[MBH]

Promoting Blysma isn't going to fix the "toxic" situation. Blysma wouldn't be an upgrade. Hire a proven coach like Trotz, and I'll be onboard. Just firing to fire makes no sense unless there is a clear upgrade.

No self respecting coach wants to coach this ****hole.

Bylsma will almost instantly turn this team into the .450-.480 team it should be.

 

[Gniwder]

* His .485 record in Buffalo is better than Blash's .473 record in Detroit

Fire Blash now, lol.

That's not really compelling stats buddy. If the team is going to fire Blash, I'm hoping for something better than Disco Dan. My biggest issue is that he's running the PP right now and it sucks. It will continue to suck if Disco becomes head coach.

 

[lilidk]

Ottawa has some talent. Wings do not.

No coach can fix soft talentless players. Not even Scotty Bowman. It's fallacy. It's "grass is greener" syndrome, it's fictional fairytale **** from watching too many happy movies.


And to those who think at LOL Blysma being the "solution" to HC. LMAO!!!

I can coach this team better than Blashill

 

[MBH]

Fire Blash now, lol.

That's not really compelling stats buddy. If the team is going to fire Blash, I'm hoping for something better than Disco Dan. My biggest issue is that he's running the PP right now and it sucks. It will continue to suck if Disco becomes head coach.

Check out Blash hills record RIGHT NOW
.315
Bylsma's low point was .476.

 

[RedMenace]

Bylsma would be a stop-gap, nothing more.

For better or worse, it would be the beginning of change. Next year will be a new sack of balls.

 

[Dotter]

Show me one person who said Bylsma is the answer. That's not what we're saying. We're saying the current product is unacceptable, lack of talent or not. Promote Bylsma on an interim basis, and then figure it out later. I don't understand how anyone could possibly want to keep Blashill arou d right now. The environment is toxic, there is a consistent lack of effort. Why not switch it up?

Then you must keep the current head coach.

 

[Dotter]

Bylsma will almost instantly turn this team into the .450-.480 team it should be.

Lol

 

[Dotter]

I can coach this team better than Blashill

And I'm a better Defenseman than Cholowski. Whoopie!

 

[Gniwder]

Check out Blash hills record RIGHT NOW
.315
Bylsma's low point was .476.

The issue I have with that argument is that Disco is an assistant and he's part of the reason why the team is at .315.

Is there anyone besides Babcock available?

 

[Dotter]

The issue I have with that argument is that Disco is an assistant and he's part of the reason why the team is at .315.

Is there anyone besides Babcock available?

Exactly. It makes no sense "upgrading" with what is likely part of the problem,,if this is in fact, a coaching issue. Which I am still not convinced. The TEAM sucks!

It's easier to blame coaching. Not sure why. THE TEAM SUCKS!

 

[Gniwder]

Exactly. It makes no sense "upgrading" with what is likely part of the problem,,if this is in fact, a coaching issue. Which I am still not convinced. The TEAM sucks!

It's easier to blame coaching. Not sure why. THE TEAM SUCKS!

Well we agree on 2 out of 3 things, that's a start.

The team sucks but so does the coaching. The power play absolutely kills me, there's enough talent to put together one good power play line, but they can't score because the power play system is stationary, and the goal appears to be to shoot from the blue line.

Of course with this D, the team would more than likely lose even if the team had the league's best PP%, but at least they'd score a few more goals.

I'm heading out to a bar (west coast so it's 9pm), see ya guys later.