Boston Bruins VIII-Rumors, Trade Proposals, Speculation, etc.. (rumors must have recognized source/link)

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Bodit9

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D Jakob Zboril
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While his NHL stat line is not yet impressive the fact that he stepped into NHL duty seamlessly and has held his own just fine in his rookie season shows he is NHL ready.
He is a projected second pairing D with good skating, passing, and a tricky and aggressive shot we have already seen in the NHL. While not necessarily a goal scorer he sets up transition
and makes smart plays in both zones. He uses his quick snapshots to set up rebounds and tip-ins, or at the very least keep the pressure on the defense and goaltender.

Vladar and Zboril are NHL-ready players with good upside.

Connor Garland
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2019-2023ARINHL6822173912018405116015813.925796214:094736.420263027
2020-2124ARINHL3191625414720113308211.015655117:474930.813141612
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Garland has had a decent first few years. He crested 20 goals once and has not yet gotten 40 pts. Stats show a 3rd line forward at this point.

Garland is an RFA this summer, so he is team-controlled. Doubtful he goes to arbitration as he has one good year and so far has been projecting down.

He is listed as 5'10" and 165lbs by CapFriendly. Which shows he is very undersized.

While I do not know how he is personally now, he has a history of attitude problems and being a locker room issue.

What we do know is that if he is being shopped in his RFA year, that alone speaks volumes.

This is not a player Boston needs nor wants. He provides no better scoring than what we already have, smaller size, and possible locker room issues.

I would say the offer for Zboril/Vladar for Garland is not only an overpayment for Garland, but a deal that has a large possibility of being a bust for Boston. Zboril and Vladar are all trending up, Garland is trending down. Boston loses two good young pieces to their team and only gains one back that does not move the needle offensively any more than what we have now.

Your right again, this is just a bad offer and bad deal.

Boston says no.

How is Garland trending down? PPG up every year. Pretty good advanced stats as well. Obviously size could be an issue and possibly attitude. But doesn't move the needle offensively? Really? We have 1 line and he's nearly a PPG player. He is definitely interesting to me as a possible 2nd line winger.
 

KrejciWinger

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Zboril and Vladar does not get you Garland lol.

Zboril doesn't have value and Coyotes don't need goaltending. Friedman said they want a high pick (bruins likely won't have), or high end prospect (not sure we have that either).

Studnicka and one of Vaak / Lohrei is where you start. Maybe a replacement player as well like Bjork or Steen.
 

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I’m very curious to see how deadline trades might be impacted by the expansion draft. Imagine teams aren’t going to be very willing to acquire multiple players for one player when there’s a good chance one of the players they are acquiring could be taken in the expansion. Most likely going to be a scenario where we see a lot of prospects and draft picks moved.
 
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Zboril and Vladar does not get you Garland lol.

Zboril doesn't have value and Coyotes don't need goaltending. Friedman said they want a high pick (bruins likely won't have), or high end prospect (not sure we have that either).

Studnicka and one of Vaak / Lohrei is where you start. Maybe a replacement player as well like Bjork or Steen.
I bet the Coyotes wish Garland was a bigger dude so he could pull that kind of return.
 

AngryMilkcrates

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Zboril and Vladar does not get you Garland lol.

Zboril doesn't have value and Coyotes don't need goaltending. Friedman said they want a high pick (bruins likely won't have), or high end prospect (not sure we have that either).

Studnicka and one of Vaak / Lohrei is where you start. Maybe a replacement player as well like Bjork or Steen.

Holy overpay Batman.

You would give up two of our best prospects for Conor Garland? Wait, 3?

Do you work for the Coyotes?
 

KrejciWinger

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Holy overpay Batman.

You would give up two of our best prospects for Conor Garland? Wait, 3?

Do you work for the Coyotes?
Just saying that's what the Coyotes would want. The Zboril offers are a joke.

And yeah I'd consider it, not sure what Studnicka and Vaak are doing for us now... They are healthy scrathes below the likes of Kampfer and Kuhlman. Yes they are young but so is Garland. Proven vs not proven, etc.
 
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Garland is a Greater Boston kid. Do you expect
anyone to believe he is going to walk into
Boston's locker room with 37,63 and 46
and not defer to them?

You watched him 5 years ago at age 20, so
I almost 100% certain his "attitude" will
not be an issue.

Now his ability to PO produce absolutely
can be an issue. Better players like
Gaudreau and Atkinson have had
issues scoring goals come PO time.
I hope he has changed his attitude.
 
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BruinDust

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Just saying that's what the Coyotes would want. The Zboril offers are a joke.

And yeah I'd consider it, not sure what Studnicka and Vaak are doing for us now... They are healthy scrathes below the likes of Kampfer and Kuhlman. Yes they are young but so is Garland. Proven vs not proven, etc.

Connor Garland doesn't even have 150 NHL games under his belt yet. I'd hold off calling him proven at this juncture.
 

bbfan419

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They should definitely look into where's he at now. Perhaps he's matured and is not the same kid. Seems to put up good numbers and plays hard. Plus he's from Mass and they love their Mass boys. He is interesting to me.
If he has matured then okay great, as for what I would give up for him, not a guy I overpay for , still rather have Rakell or Forsberg.
 

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D Jakob Zboril
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While his NHL stat line is not yet impressive the fact that he stepped into NHL duty seamlessly and has held his own just fine in his rookie season shows he is NHL ready.
He is a projected second pairing D with good skating, passing, and a tricky and aggressive shot we have already seen in the NHL. While not necessarily a goal scorer he sets up transition
and makes smart plays in both zones. He uses his quick snapshots to set up rebounds and tip-ins, or at the very least keep the pressure on the defense and goaltender.

Vladar and Zboril are NHL-ready players with good upside.

Connor Garland
ScoringGoalsAssistsShotsIce Time
SeasonAgeTmLgGPGAPTS+/-PIMEVPPSHGWEVPPSHSS%TSATOIATOIFOWFOLFO%BLKHITTKGVAwards
2018-1922ARINHL4713518112940232011811.017960112:4710855.617332510
2019-2023ARINHL6822173912018405116015813.925796214:094736.420263027
2020-2124ARINHL3191625414720113308211.015655117:474930.813141612
Career3 yrsNHL1464438826463410082711035812.3592211514:29182442.950737149
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Garland has had a decent first few years. He crested 20 goals once and has not yet gotten 40 pts. Stats show a 3rd line forward at this point.

Garland is an RFA this summer, so he is team-controlled. Doubtful he goes to arbitration as he has one good year and so far has been projecting down.

He is listed as 5'10" and 165lbs by CapFriendly. Which shows he is very undersized.

While I do not know how he is personally now, he has a history of attitude problems and being a locker room issue.

What we do know is that if he is being shopped in his RFA year, that alone speaks volumes.

This is not a player Boston needs nor wants. He provides no better scoring than what we already have, smaller size, and possible locker room issues.

I would say the offer for Zboril/Vladar for Garland is not only an overpayment for Garland, but a deal that has a large possibility of being a bust for Boston. Zboril and Vladar are all trending up, Garland is trending down. Boston loses two good young pieces to their team and only gains one back that does not move the needle offensively any more than what we have now.

Your right again, this is just a bad offer and bad deal.

Boston says no.

You're being disingenuous with that 40 point
comment. He only played 68 games, so he would have registered about 45 points and 23-25 goals which is roughly 2nd line production.

Combining last year and this year his PPG is
borderline in the upper third of 2nd line production
in the NHL. So you can't dismiss that trade so easily.
Zboril and Vladar for Garland I personally dont do but
add a 2nd round 2022 and I might.
 
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Garland is an analytics favorite much like Kase and Smith, is producing a ton this year 5v5, and is even a local guy. If he's actually available you'd have to think he's the exact type Sweeney would be into, undersized or not.

Not sure why Arizona would want to deal him unless they get a significant return though. He's still an RFA after this season and is probably due for a nice raise.
 

KillerMillerTime

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Connor Garland doesn't even have 150 NHL games under his belt yet. I'd hold off calling him proven at this juncture.

Thats true about his games played but his last 99
games played his production is at absolutely
a 2nd liner in the NHL level. Its borderline
upper 3rd abd Garland doesn't have anyone
in Krejci class as a center.
 

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We already know he doesn’t make other players much better anymore. He’s the highest paid player on the team which people forget.
Of course he still makes players better. He's got has as many assists as Bergeron in fewer games and instead of playing between Marchand and Pasta he gets Ritchie and Senyshyn/Steen/Debrusk/Studnika/Smith/Kase.
 

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Of course he still makes players better. He's got has as many assists as Bergeron in fewer games and instead of playing between Marchand and Pasta he gets Ritchie and Senyshyn/Steen/Debrusk/Studnika/Smith/Kase.

DeBrusk scores 27....wow look what Krejci did for that guy. DeBrusk scores 1 goal.... not Krejci's fault. 46's line doesn't even have to face the top competition like Bergeron's line and yet they still are non existent.

Craig Smith has five 20 goal seasons and he's not good enough for Dk? Kase? he scored 20 as well and has been terrible in his limited viewings w #46.

So Dk gets a 27 goal scorer that averages 23 goals per 82 and a five time 20 goal scorer on the other side. Hmmm, doesn't seem too bad to me, let's see if the 7 million dollar playmaking center can give this team what he's paid to do or will they just become another two wingers he couldn't play with.
 

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he's still easily worth Zboril and Vladar. Would clearly be the teams 3rd best winger as well. He is not a good match w 46 though, he plays the game at a million miles per hour, needs a faster paced center.
OK, Lou

do you want to sign Booth to a long term contract, because unless Arizona is trading 2 G in addition to Garland, it's not realistic
 
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is it just we fans that think it’s pretty solid tho? Bruins have a terrible pool according to many “experts”. This deadline will be very interesting to see if they are outbid for the players available. There was an interesting article in the athletic where writers made their own offers for players and presented to a talent or scout or something f and the bruins guys were panned it seemed. I really like our prospects

I think Boston's prospect pool doesn't get "expert" votes because they don't have any flashy name prospects. Oddly enough though it seems like year after year we bring a kid up from Providence and they become a full time NHLer. On the flip side you see the same teams year after year with the best prospect pool....and yet their big club doesn't seem to be any better if they keep drafting so early.

Now I'm not saying Boston has the best prospect system, because we're far from it. I think too many prospect rankings look at ceiling when odds of players hitting their ceiling are probably not very high. Person think Boston is closer to early/mid 20's as far as prospect systems go.
 
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