Confirmed Signing with Link: [VGK] Zach Whitecloud signs extension with the Golden Knights (6 years, $2.75M AAV)

[MMC]

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[innitfam]

Bump this thread in 2 years when he gets rewarded for signing a team-friendly deal by being dealt.

 

[deckercky]

Interesting - you don't see too many longterm contracts in this price range.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Thats great term but I'm pretty stunned Whitecloud was able to get a 16 million dollar deal.
If he continues to progress its great for the Knights, if not theres definitely some possible downside, because he has not proven much.

 

[CupInSIX]

Bump this thread in 2 years when he gets rewarded for signing a team-friendly deal by being dealt.

How dare you.

It's true but how dare you.

 

[T_Cage]

These long term deals for low end and mid range guys are interesting….it tells me teams might have the hunch the cap is going to start going back up quickly and want to lock in guys now at “covid pricing”. Just an outsiders speculation

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

To respond to the cynics above, I'm going to guess that Whitecloud won't be dealt. Young and cost-controlled RHDs are worth their weight in gold to teams. Locking up a decently-good one to a rate that Tucker Poolman got in UFA is a pretty solid get. Possible blueprint for Ethan Bear, perhaps, albeit his will likely be a little bit more expensive because he has slightly more offense to his game.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Interesting gamble by Vegas (and Whitecloud). If you want to be competitive in a cap world these are the kind of risks you gotta take though.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Thats great term but I'm pretty stunned Whitecloud was able to get a 16 million dollar deal.
If he continues to progress its great for the Knights, if not theres definitely some possible downside, because he has not proven much.

Spoken like someone who doesn't watch Whitecloud play. He's already well worth that 2.7 number. He's a better player than Mcnabb. The only reason he's not a top 4 D right now is because Petro and Theo are ahead of him. He'd be a legit top 4 defensive D on most teams in the league.

 

[Foppberg]

Could be an absolute steal, could be a minor overpayment.

Good gamble. Surprised he signed it.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Spoken like someone who doesn't watch Whitecloud play. He's already well worth that 2.7 number. He's a better player than Mcnabb. The only reason he's not a top 4 D right now is because Petro and Theo are ahead of him. He'd be a legit top 4 defensive D on most teams in the league.

At that price tag he's not someone you want on a bottom pair, you'll need him to be a top 4 quality

Its a gamble. A good one. But you have to be biased if you think there is 0 risk to this deal

 

[Dr Robot]

To respond to the cynics above, I'm going to guess that Whitecloud won't be dealt. Young and cost-controlled RHDs are worth their weight in gold to teams. Locking up a decently-good one to a rate that Tucker Poolman got in UFA is a pretty solid get. Possible blueprint for Ethan Bear, perhaps, albeit his will likely be a little bit more expensive because he has slightly more offense to his game.

The price per ounce of gold is $1801.6 USD.
NHL.com has him listed at 208 pounds. That converts to 3328 ounces.
3328x1801.6=$5,995,724.8
Apparently the Knights believe hes worth slightly less than half his weight in gold every year for the next 6 years.

 

[ES]

Cap-wise it seems mostly replacement for McNabb (whose contract ends and is UFA) next year onwards.

 

[The Duck Knight]

At that price tag he's not someone you want on a bottom pair, you'll need him to be a top 4 quality

Its a gamble. A good one. But you have to be biased if you think there is 0 risk to this deal

He is top 4 quality. Like I said the only reason he isn't literally in the top 4 is he plays the same side as Petro and Theo. The only risk to this deal is if he regresses or is injured for the majority of the contract. His current play is worth 2.75 per as is.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

He is top 4 quality. Like I said the only reason he isn't literally in the top 4 is he plays the same side as Petro and Theo. The only risk to this deal is if he regresses or is injured for the majority of the contract. His current play is worth 2.75 per as is.

I'm also guessing that Theo will move to his natural side next season after McNabb gets paid well elsewhere. Whitecloud likely makes the top-4 next season.

Martinez-Pietrangelo
Theodore-Whitecloud
Hague-Coghlan

(or something like that)

 

[CraigBillington]

The price per ounce of gold is $1801.6 USD.
NHL.com has him listed at 208 pounds. That converts to 3328 ounces.
3328x1801.6=$5,995,724.8
Apparently the Knights believe hes worth slightly less than half his weight in gold every year for the next 6 years.

They're anticipating a crash

 

[The Duck Knight]

I'm also guessing that Theo will move to his natural side next season after McNabb gets paid well elsewhere. Whitecloud likely makes the top-4 next season.

Martinez-Pietrangelo
Theodore-Whitecloud
Hague-Coghlan

(or something like that)

Yeah I think they already would have loaded up the top 4 with Whitecloud if they had a vet RD that could play 3rd pair with Hague. Hague-Coghlan would be too much of a mess defensively. Once Mcnabb is gone I think that top 4 you posted is a near certainty.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Steal of a deal. Whitecloud is #4 dman on most teams. Going to look like a Scott mayfield kind of deal within 2 years.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Yeah I think they already would have loaded up the top 4 with Whitecloud if they had a vet RD that could play 3rd pair with Hague. Hague-Coghlan would be too much of a mess defensively. Once Mcnabb is gone I think that top 4 you posted is a near certainty.

I mean, there's a reason why coaches generally shelter young defensemen with veterans (on one condition: IF you're a contending team!). I was simply just talking about how the depth chart would move after McNabb gets his big payday.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Steal of a deal. Whitecloud is #4 dman on most teams. Going to look like a Scott mayfield kind of deal within 2 years.

Good comparison. He's a Mayfield/Carlo type of player. Never going to put up even a 30 point season, but steady as it gets defensively.

 

[bsu]

Vegas doesn't give a damn as it their players.... Don't take team friendly deals.

 

[mundyc3]

He is a horse, I really like him as a calm, steady defensive presence. Happy to see him for the long haul.

 

[T_Cage]

The price per ounce of gold is $1801.6 USD.
NHL.com has him listed at 208 pounds. That converts to 3328 ounces.
3328x1801.6=$5,995,724.8
Apparently the Knights believe hes worth slightly less than half his weight in gold every year for the next 6 years.

Underrated comment

 

[CupInSIX]

The timing of this extension is curious, given that they would probably need to re-sign Whitecloud to less than 3m to fit a certain 10m player in next season...

 

[HanSolo]

Lol @ the people calling this a gamble. Whitecloud is a great defensive presence on the VGK blueline and has the potential to be one of the better shutdown defensemen in the league if he keeps progressing right.

As is he's already one of Vegas' most defensively reliable blueliners.

There's no gamble here. If he plateaus at this level across his career, then this is simply solid value. Every bit he gets better, this deal goes up in positive value.

I'm thrilled personally.