Confirmed Trade: [VGK/MTL] Max Pacioretty for 2019 2nd round pick, Nick Suzuki, and Tomas Tatar Part II

[le_sean]

Not to chirp at all but just reading your compete comments, its crazy that patches was the captain.

Because he was a “Yes Man”

 

[Slyfox]

GM Mcphee has made some horrible moves that are finally looking to bite him back.

 

[HabsQC]

Not to chirp at all but just reading your compete comments, its crazy that patches was the captain.

Players voted for him after his best seasons. Also they didn't like Subban.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

0 assists 1 goal 1 point -3 in 6 games so far with Vegas playing 17:04 per game. Not a good start at all for him.

If I remember the name correctly, a poster known as HarrisonFord posted something similar 5 years ago in mid-November when Pacioretty only had 2 goals in his first 12 games.

He scored 3 the same night, and finished with 39...

Good times.

 

[Scintillating10]

Working out good for Montreal.

 

[Deen]

Vegas is gonna cash out here soon. Willy has another 35 in him as a base.

 

[Riptide]

Tatar's compete level has come as a big surprise to me. Dunno how he fit so poorly with that Vegas team.

I'm really surprised that LV gave up on him that quickly. What I'm not surprised about is that he's proving those wrong who were calling him a "cap dump" when this trade was announced.

 

[Aoko]

Plus they finessed Nick Suzuki out of Vegas.

And then look at what Ottawa got for Karlsson.

Then again, you'll hear that Ottawa fans are surprisingly happy with the guys they got. Their team isn't doing too bad right now. They even beat the best team in the history of the galaxy, the Maple Leafs.

 

[jfhabs]

Tatar's been good so far, but Pacioretty always started slow and now it's a new team. I'm sure he'll score 25+.

 

[Riptide]

I think Vegas fans were hoping for a bounce back season for him before the trade. I think he was an easy player to root for. He seems like a hard working player so good for him.

It just seems so odd that with Perron and Neal leaving, that LV wouldn't give him another chance this season in a bigger role to try and help fill one of those slots. And while the cap might have been problematic next season (19/20), it shouldn't have been an issue this season.

 

[Vegan Knight]

It just seems so odd that with Perron and Neal leaving, that LV wouldn't give him another chance this season in a bigger role to try and help fill one of those slots. And while the cap might have been problematic next season (19/20), it shouldn't have been an issue this season.

Oh, I was one of the few who questioned whether the move was as good as some made it out to be. I believe Tatar may have been able to put up somewhere around 50 points in our system, at least 40 something, so I thought it might possibly end up being a 20 point upgrade (but 2M more on the cap) at the cost of a 2nd and Suzuki.

I am not saying it was a bad deal but with the situation with Pacioretty and Montreal being what it was, I thought it wasn't a slam dunk deal other fans thought it might be.

 

[Deen]

Vegas makes the playoffs. I will bet ya anything.

 

[Just Linda]

Because he was a “Yes Man”

Management didn't decide captain, players did

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Pacs will probably suck for another 5 games or so. Look good for 3-5, struggle for 6, then go off on a tear and be streaky.

 

[Deen]

Vegas should trade for Ritchie

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Suzuki will be good for sure, but just wait until Tatar goes 10 straight games without a point. He’s so damn streaky.

 

[super6646]

Looking good for Montreal. As I said, I couldn't believe Berg actually got decent value for Patches, and this looks all the more better with Tatar's scoring spree.

 

[AllDay28]

geez, trades are made in 6 games.

 

[HabsQC]

Tatar is and will be given all the opportunities here in MTL. Definwtly one of our top 3 F right now and most likely for all season

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

Tatar's been good so far, but Pacioretty always started slow and now it's a new team. I'm sure he'll score 25+.

But Pacioretty's decline goes well beyond the goal scoring aspect.

It sucks, because he is an awesome person but for some reason, he has lost his edge over the years and has gone from being a player that could elevate a line to a guy who needs specific help on his line and has difficulty finding chemistry. You want high profile players that aren't high-maintenance but instead facilitate the coach's job and boost the team. Pacioretty sulks. Could only find chemistry with a limited few centers. His streaky and tends to sulk when things don't go his way. Has lost a lot of his awesome two-way game because he seems to overthink all the time.

He's gone from a guy you could use in any situation and would thrive by scoring goals on top of his excellent play to a streaky goal-scorer that needs maintenance and care.

I know Pacioretty had the worse summer of his professional career and may still feel the effects of this. He could turn it around. But I think the way to do it is for him to stop playing like a one-trick pony sniper whose life depends on scoring goals and get his overall game back in shape. The great paradox is that it is by playing that way that the goals will come.

 

[biturbo19]

I don't think it's altogether surprising that Tatar is registering some points. Outside of that stint in Vegas that went completely sideways somehow...he's always sorta been good for 20+ Goals and 45-55pts. Not a lot else, but if you need some offensive skill...he's always had it.

On the other end of things though, i wouldn't panic about Pacioretty just yet. He's always been a really streaky scorer, who has had cold starts before and then gone on an absolute tear at some point later in the season to register near-elite goal totals in the end. Adjusting to a new team, new system, new town and ratcheting down from the media responsibilities of Captain of the Habs in one of the most crazed hockey markets in the league...shouldn't really be surprising he hasn't come out of the gates on fire either.

You don't make a trade like this for the first half dozen games of the season. Especially not when you're signing the guy to a multi-year extension immediately after acquiring them. Patches is a better player than the outgoing James Neal...but he's going to have to find his fit there. As Tatar illustrated...that's apparently not a gimme.

 

[Maitz]

Im not a pro but I play hockey since im 4 and im 30 now, always have been a goalscorer because of my wrist shot and when im in slump I stop overthink and go in front of the next and push the puck. Im not a pro but îts as simple as that and Pacio never do that to turn things around

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Tatar already has more pts than he did with vegas last year in 15 less games

 

[BobbyShehan]

Max had great seasons prior to last year and my two cents is that his decline in all aspects of the game is a strength, a stamina issue. He used to keep moving his feet no matter where he was on the ice. He's a lot more static nowadays, especially in the offensive zone and it might be a result of past injuries or nutrition or premature ageing... Can't believe the guy is not motivated and he should rebound but he's gotta adapt his game if his body can't do what it used to do.

 

[BelovedIsles]

It should also be noted that Pacs had a great preseason. He’ll get going again. He fits like a glove in that offense, unfortunately Stastny is injured; he’s just the type of distributor Pacs can thrive off of.

Tatar is in a good situation. On the cusp of breaking out with a team he’s going to get a lot of opportunity to.