Traded Veronneau for Aaron Luchuk and a conditional sixth-round draft pick in 2021
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I really hope we make some actual deals heading towards Trade Deadline. I am getting sick of these minor league trades that Dorion always seems to be giving up the player with the higher upside. Seriously, if he's not bothering to speak with any of our UFA's what the f*** is he doing?
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About "holy hell we got bent over in this trade" for a borderline AHL healthy scratch that we acquired as a free agent last season.
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Was a good prospect included in the deal along with Veronneau?
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Yeah, I'm confused, I thought Veronneau was the only guy we sent over.
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The conditional 6th round pick kicks in if Verroneau manages to play 10 games for the Leafs this year or next. If he fails to do so I wouldn't worry about it. He'll be 25 years old next year and if he still can't break in he's not much of a prospect.
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Not really. Bourque + Veronneau > Archibald for Belleville, especially if they give Archibald minutes over someone like Abramov. Luchuk isn't an AHL player.
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Beats me. I haven't been following Belleville this year.
My only hope is the team has enough brains to set up a good environment for the kids down there. Not really focused on wins, but proper development. The whole idea of having our own farm team is to make these kids the best NHLers they can be.
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This board just voted him as a better prospect than guys like Paul, Mandolese, Gruden and Allsing. Luchuk probably had the same amount of votes in all 30+ of those polls as he does points in the AHL this year. Its looks a hell of a lot better if we get the pick but the Leafs can easily just artificially without that.
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This is doing a favour for a player that signed with us as a college UFA. He chose Ottawa thinking he would get a shot. I didn't work out and he wasn't even a big part in Belleville.
We're doing the guy a solid and giving him a chance with another organization. He obviously was far down the organization depth chart, so it's not a loss to the team.
We're doing the guy a solid and giving him a chance with another organization. He obviously was far down the organization depth chart, so it's not a loss to the team.
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I think your first comment is debatable. Bourque has only played 5 games in the AHL and played most of the season in the ECHL. Bourque and Luchuk seems to have a comparable impact to Belleville which seems marginal at this point.
Archibald is arguably a more impactful player than Veronneau at this point. Veronneau has something like 10 points in 30 games. Archibald has pretty consistently produced either comparably or superior numbers plus bringing a physical element.
Also Troy Mann was asked about Veronneau early in the season and he made some comment about him needing to go to the dirty areas and kind of implied that he is a perimeter player. Veronneau has some skill but it does seem like they pushed him to overcome being a perimeter player and he wasnt able to adapt.
I think we can question his potential impact in the AHL and how much of a long term prospect he is if he is unable to overcome being a perimeter player.
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He was a former 6th round pick of the St Louis Blues in the 2017 draft. He finished up his OHL career, went unsigned by St Louis and singed an AHL deal with Belleville. He has only played 5 games this season with Belleville and spent the majority of the year in the ECHL.
Attack grad Trent Bourque signs AHL contract with Belleville – Ontario Hockey League
Trent Bourque at eliteprospects.com
It seems like a nicely built deal. We get a guy who is a better fit for our AHL team, who’s played here before and had a letter, we do MV a solid by trading him to a team that has less depth so he can perhaps have a better shot, and if for some reason he actually manages to crack the NHL roster for more than 10 games we get a compensatory late round pick.
What’s not to like? What’s to dislike?
What’s not to like? What’s to dislike?
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If he's a solid prospect then... shouldn't he be able to get the NHL games?
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You could say that about at least 10 guys in Belleville right now.
If he signed in Ottawa on the basis that we would give him a legitimate opportunity to play in the NHL then Dorion did the right thing for him. From what has been written, it seems like he was more of a perimeter player and we are trying to create a much tougher team than that. Another perimeter for a soft Toronto team, seems appropriate.
Perhaps more importantly we are back to 48 contracts.
Perhaps more importantly we are back to 48 contracts.
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