TSN: Vandermeer Waived (UPD: Clears - Jan 22)

[LeftCoast]

Sure if you ignore cap hits - it would be a no-brainer. I wouldn't want Rome @ $1.6 million (given the current cap structure of our blueline - he'd be too expensive IMHO).

The difference in cap hit isn't that great, $275K. Alberts is useful when you expect, or want to impose a slower, more physical game, but he is really exposed against any kind of speed. Rome is almost as physical - what he lacks in size he makes up for in aggressiveness - but Rome can actually play every day if need be. He's no Jason Garrison as a skater, but he's mobile enough and has good enough positioning. Yeah, he's a drop off from Ballard / Tanev skillwise, but if someone is injured you can insert Rome without having to totally protect him.

I guess I'll have to be patient and see if the Rick Bowness can revive Cam Barker's career or if it is just a cheap experiment.

 

[Royal Canuck]

It's probably just so we can call up Schroeder.

 

[Intoewsables]

I don't know how I feel about this. We get to see Schroeder in NHL action, but Cam Barker gets that much closer to seeing the ice in the event of an injury. Ugh...

 

[Barney Gumble]

The difference in cap hit isn't that great, $275K. Alberts is useful when you expect, or want to impose a slower, more physical game, but he is really exposed against any kind of speed. Rome is almost as physical - what he lacks in size he makes up for in aggressiveness - but Rome can actually play every day if need be.

Well, I had already said in this thread I think Alberts is a luxory item that we can't really afford in this very thread....my comment was directed at spending that kind of money (whether it be $1.6 million or $1.225 million) is too much considering where we are cap-wise.

 

[LolClarkson*]

One can hope we ice the following:

Sedin - Sedin - Kassian
Higgins - Schroeder - Burrows
Raymond - Lapierre - Hansen
Volpatti - Malhotra - Weise
Ebbett

It won't happen but... I want it to.

Kassian had a good game like this against Buffalo last year and everyone got high on him. But he disappeared after that.

 

[WinterEmpire]

Kassian had a good game like this against Buffalo last year and everyone got high on him. But he disappeared after that.

He didn't disappear. He got moved to the forth line and played well for the role he was in.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

Kassian had a good game like this against Buffalo last year and everyone got high on him. But he disappeared after that.

Mom finally told you to get out of bed eh?

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Why wouldn't you try Raymond with Schroeder again? Makes for a stronger third line, and a potentially more offensive second line (if the chemistry really is there) without sacrificing any defensive ability. Aside from that, it's definitely a lineup I'd test - two strong defensive wingers with Schroeder makes it much more likely to succeed than anything depending on Kassian there (not that he's bad defensively, but two young players on a line aren't likely to be depended on much by AV).

Hadn't thought of the switch to be honest. While I would not be adverse to slotting Raymond on the second line. That does make for a somewhat undersized line and may get pushed around. One positive is or Higgins to mesh with Schroeder, thus the two will easily adjust to a reduced role when Kesler returns. Frankly, whatever keeps Ebbett buried will work for me.

 

[Proto]

Well, I had already said in this thread I think Alberts is a luxory item that we can't really afford in this very thread....my comment was directed at spending that kind of money (whether it be $1.6 million or $1.225 million) is too much considering where we are cap-wise.

Team doesn't really have cap issues right now, though.

 

[m9]

Alberts has played pretty well with Tanev in the past so I don't think he's the guy to move.

This Vandermeer move should have been done last week to avoid the Schroeder move. I will risk losing a fringe NHL guy to help our on-ice team. Might not have done anything Saturday but maybe Schroeder over Ebbett is the difference in us getting a point last night.

 

[Barney Gumble]

Team doesn't really have cap issues right now, though.

Makes it difficult to add somebody (eg., if they happen to be on waivers) to fill a greater need upfront.

 

[Proto]

Makes it difficult to add somebody (eg., if they happen to be on waivers) to fill a greater need upfront.

True enough, but if Gillis really wanted to do that, he could have turfed Ballard by now. After the first few games, I can't imagine it will be more than another game or two before we see Barker in for Ballard. Just a hunch.

 

[BerSTUzzi]

True enough, but if Gillis really wanted to do that, he could have turfed Ballard by now. After the first few games, I can't imagine it will be more than another game or two before we see Barker in for Ballard. Just a hunch.

The problem is you can't hide contracts in the AHL anymore, some team would actually have to trade for Ballard.

 

[Barney Gumble]

True enough, but if Gillis really wanted to do that, he could have turfed Ballard by now. After the first few games, I can't imagine it will be more than another game or two before we see Barker in for Ballard. Just a hunch.

I think he would've if he could (without taking garbage salary back - else it doesn't do anything). Seems like a guy like Connelly (despite his injury issues) would fill a temporary need better than having Ballard for depth on the blueline. Similiar cap hit and Connelly's contract is gone after the season.

 

[Scouter]

Vandy is not an NHL player at this point in his career, at best he's a fringe player, so it's good they sen't him down.

 

[The Optimist]

Is he on a 1 way or 2 way deal? I know it doesn't matter as far as waivers go, I'm just curious if the Canucks' players talking to management on his behalf got Vandermeer a nice retirement package

 

[rebel diamond]

Team doesn't really have cap issues right now, though.

I'm assuming this is intentional on Gillis' part. If things stay as they are, at the deadline we'll be able to add about $5mil in salary.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Why the F waive Vandermeer?

 

[craigcaulks*]

Why the F waive Vandermeer?

Least likely to be grabbed and saves the team money?

 

[MarkMM]

Why wouldn't you try Raymond with Schroeder again? Makes for a stronger third line, and a potentially more offensive second line (if the chemistry really is there) without sacrificing any defensive ability. Aside from that, it's definitely a lineup I'd test - two strong defensive wingers with Schroeder makes it much more likely to succeed than anything depending on Kassian there (not that he's bad defensively, but two young players on a line aren't likely to be depended on much by AV).

A.)
D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Schroeder - Kassian
Higgins - Lapierre - Hansen
Volpatti - Malholtra - Weise

or

B.)
D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Jensen
Burrows - Schroeder - Kassian
Higgins - Lapierre - Raymond
Volpatti - Malholtra - Weise

In version A, you get tried, tested and true SSB with the Raymond/Schroeder chemistry we need for offense and Kassian for size and to give him an offensive role.

If you're worried about the lack of consistency with only Raymond being the veteran on the second line, then version B with Burrows there calms things down and gives Jensen an opportunity to play a more offensive role he's shown at times the potential to live up to.

 

[David71]

i think hes gonna get claimed. whoever is short on d will grab him

 

[Royal Canuck]

Why the F waive Vandermeer?

We have 3 extra defensemen on the roster and 0 extra forwards, meaning if another forward gets hurt, Cam Barker will be playing forward at this point.

This move is to hopefully call up Schroeder and relieve Ebbett of his duties.

 

[deckercky]

i think hes gonna get claimed. whoever is short on d will grab him

Still 9 deep (with Connauton), so not too much of a crisis.

Plus, the Canucks never run into injury problems on defence.

 

[Stonz]

With Willie Mitchell's bum knee, and the fact they've now lost Matt Greene for the year with a back injury, you have to think the Kings might claim him.

 

[TBIF]

B.)
D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Jensen
Burrows - Schroeder - Kassian
Higgins - Lapierre - Raymond
Volpatti - Malholtra - Weise

Jensen won't be available until end of march at the earliest