2 Dmen on the PP is unheard of in today’s game, but it was the norm back in the day.
I personally love it (with the right personnel). Though typically you’d want a righty and a lefty.
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2 Dmen on the PP is unheard of in today’s game, but it was the norm back in the day.
I personally love it (with the right personnel). Though typically you’d want a righty and a lefty.
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Melvin
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i mean, it matters though. The actual composition of the PP informs the system that they play, and vice versa.
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I'm so old i remember when 4 fwds on the pp was a wild new idea. I agree them both being lefty's is the main question mark. At least try it for a few games is all i'm saying. If it doesn't work so be it. My fear is won't even be given a chance. That's what would make me grind my teeth.
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What would the formation be? 1-3-1 provides the best chance to score, and that doesn't really work with 2 d men who shoot left, and Pettersson out there. If OEL shot right, then you could put him in Boeser's spot on the left side wall. And on the flip side of putting both on the 1st unit, you make the 2nd unit a lot weaker. OEL is an elite power play qb, so imo, the team would be better off with him making our 2nd unit one of the best in the league.
Green won't hesitate to put the 2nd unit out there like he did last year, and there will likely be times when he will deploy the 2nd unit first, because they are clicking better. I expect our power play will be will be one of the best in the league.
It would be interesting to have Hughes play more of a roving style on the PP and let OEL man the point. OEL has the better shot and he can distribute the puck very well. Having Hughes freestyle and improvise could make that unit hard to form a game plan against.
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I hear what you're saying Logan, i just think OEL and Hughes in particular are so skilled and versatile that we have to give them a chance to make it work. I would rather have the best pp1 in the league vs a good pp1 and the best pp2 in the league. At least try it that's all i'm saying.
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Also dropping 1 of the forwards from pp1 to pp2 helps the 2cnd unit, and it possibly opens an important spot on that unit for Rathbone. He may be very good there, or not, but we won't know if we never give him that chance.
That's the thing though, EP would be the spot that makes sense if you are going to have 2 LHS dmen. You'd want OEL as the trigger man, and not sure that's his best spot. Guess you could put OEL in Miller's spot on the left point, but sometimes that's Boeser, so You'd lose some flexibility. Unless you want OEL or Hughes to sometimes play the bumper or the downlow spot, which doesn't make sense.
I'm fine with OEL anchoring the 2nd unit.
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Is a nice unit. A would be Chiasson or Pearson I guess, at least until Sutter is back
.If anything, having OEL and Rathbone on the 2nd unit, with Hoglander in the bumper spot, would make more sense. But don't see a fit for 2 LHS dmen on the 1st unit.
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Boeser (left circle)
Pettersson (right circle)
Miller (right side of the net)
Garland (slot/bumper)
OEL/Hughes (top)
Pettersson (right circle)
Miller (right side of the net)
Garland (slot/bumper)
OEL/Hughes (top)
Isn't Bo one of the top PP goal scorers in the league over the past couple seasons?
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Anyways, both power play units should be fun to watch. If OEL is on the 2nd unit, it will be interesting to see which unit scores more per minute. I won't be surprised if the 2nd unit actually outperforms the 1st unit, as they will face the other teams 2nd pk unit.
Sure you could…
Hughes ——————————Pettersson
That’s the setup. Horvat infront of the net with Miller on the goal line as an option to Pettersson for give and go. Hughes on the left as a rover/back door option/playmaker while OEL mans the point with the big shot while being defensively responsible (we need less SHG against this year).
Horvat
Miller
Hughes ——————————Pettersson
OEL
Melvin
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You guys are going to be so salty when it's Chiasson in front of the net on PP1.
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Maybe my problem is that i don't think of Hughes as being a normal left handed defenceman. I don't want to call him a freak cause that doesn't sound right...but there's very few players like him.
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I mean there is the option of having OEL and Hughes playing the left and right points, but they don't work playing 1-3-1 with Petey out there. It's just that the 1-3-1 is the superior set-up.
The second unit could see 2 d men out there in OEL and Rathbone, as Rathbone has a decent shot, and has been deployed multiple times now at the right sidewall position.
Assuming Boeser is healthy, who does he replace? Think the top unit is pretty much locked in with the same personal as the previous 2 seasons.
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I understand why people want to load up the #1 PP. But, we could alternate between a killer PP1 and having strong PP1 and PP2 and adjust it depending on the strength of the defense of the team we are playing. It wouldn't be a bad thing to spread it around for the first two periods and then go to clutch when down one in the third. It would limit the other teams ability to prepare their defence as well.
Last night's game was a clinic on how important the PP has become in today's NHL. Only one five-on-five goal in a 3-2 game.
If your pp isn't well within the top 10 in the league, your playoff chances go down considerably. Obviously the Canucks are reasonably set on the first unit pp.....but they have to get more from their second unit. And they've got options with OEL or Rathbone.
If your pp isn't well within the top 10 in the league, your playoff chances go down considerably. Obviously the Canucks are reasonably set on the first unit pp.....but they have to get more from their second unit. And they've got options with OEL or Rathbone.
