Confirmed with Link: [VAN/SJS] Tom Pyatt, 164th overall for Francis Perron, 215th overall

[PG Canuck]

Why.....just like....why?

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[Addison Rae]

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

 

[Nucker101]

This one doesn’t make any sense. It can’t just be for Utica with free agency just around the corner.

They must see NHL upside in him. I don’t.

Edit: Perron is waiver eligible lol.

 

[krutovsdonut]

weird trade.

 

[TruKnyte]

Benning must really want to show off his scouting prowess by having less picks and being further down the draft order.

 

[Melvin]

Moving down fifty spots to swap fungible AHL forwards. Weird.

 

[CherryToke]

What

 

[Nazzlind]

And of course we downgrade our pick smh

 

[hellstick]

Well, I didn't even know we had Tom Pyatt, so that's something.

 

[krutovsdonut]

pyatt is a ufa.

 

[Red]

Don't get why people get caught up in trading a 6th for a 7th for an AHL upgrade. A 6th vs. a 7th is zero difference, anything past the 3rd/4th round is a lottery ticket, you just want a bunch of them, doesn't matter what the exact pick is. Our players in Utica need scoring support and Perron is younger than Pyatt and was more effective last season. We also just traded down to add another 6th. Meh.

The infuriating deal was trading away the 1st.

 

[Fire Benning]

That's an odd move to make.

 

[krutovsdonut]

perron is a waiver eligible rfa.

did we owe san jose a favour from a previous deal?

 

[Tim Calhoun]

The trade is understandable if you assume Perron is a guy our pro scouts like and targeted. Unfortunately I don’t have much faith in our pro scouts.

Fine for Utica though.

 

[absolute garbage]

I'm not sure if this is the case but it would be pretty embarrassing if Perron was eligible for waivers and was claimed when sent down to Utica after camp, essentially downgrading these picks for a warm body at training camp.

Not that it really matters. 6th vs 7th means basically nothing. Decent addition to Utica if he clears I guess. But then again they could've just picked him up on waivers if that's the case. What? I can't even. What's going on.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Don't get why people get caught up in trading a 6th for a 7th for an AHL upgrade. A 6th vs. a 7th is zero difference, anything past the 3rd/4th round is a lottery ticket, you just want a bunch of them, doesn't matter what the exact pick is. Our players in Utica need scoring support and Perron is younger than Pyatt and was more effective last season. We also just traded down to add another 6th. Meh.

The infuriating deal was trading away the 1st.

the issue is it does not make a lot of sense. why would san jose want the bargaining rights for pyatt for a week. as for perron, we can get him as a ufa in a few days if san jose does not sign him or on waivers in september. he is not making the sharks. he is also unlikely to make the canucks meaning we could lose him.

seems like it might be related to the dahlen deal somehow.

 

[kcunac]

Perron is 23. Pyatt is 32. Could be a total waste but we’re talking the difference between 6th and 7th round.

 

[Red]

the issue is it does not make a lot of sense. why would san jose want the bargaining rights for pyatt for a week. as for perron, we can get him as a ufa in a few days if san jose does not sign him or on waivers in september. he is not making the sharks. he is also unlikely to make the canucks meaning we could lose him.

seems like it might be related to the dahlen deal somehow.

How does it not make sense though? I'd pay to move down from a late 6th to a late 7th pick to get a guy that will not get claimed on waivers at the start of the season but will make Utica a better team and help make our prospects better down there for a guy that didn't really do that. Why would this have anything to do with Dahlen? Perron is the slightly better AHL player than Pyatt, the 164th pick is slightly better than 215th. Seems fair. I would not have given up a pick for him at all, but we didn't.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

y tho...

 

[Horse McHindu]

Perron is 23. Pyatt is 32. Could be a total waste but we’re talking the difference between 6th and 7th round.

This was going to be my response.

But yeah. I don’t care a whole lot about this.

 

[Blue and Green]

Canucks are currently at the max 50 contracts. San Jose had to take Pyatt's contract to get the deal done, same as the reason why Mazanec was included in the Miller trade.

 

[Melvin]

Don't get why people get caught up in trading a 6th for a 7th for an AHL upgrade. A 6th vs. a 7th is zero difference, anything past the 3rd/4th round is a lottery ticket, you just want a bunch of them, doesn't matter what the exact pick is. Our players in Utica need scoring support and Perron is younger than Pyatt and was more effective last season. We also just traded down to add another 6th. Meh.

The infuriating deal was trading away the 1st.

Because you can literally get AHL forwards for free. The Canucks under Benning have a long history of ignoring AHL free agents though and for some reason think you need to trade or downgrade picks to get them.

 

[RealityCheck22]

Don't get why people get caught up in trading a 6th for a 7th for an AHL upgrade. A 6th vs. a 7th is zero difference, anything past the 3rd/4th round is a lottery ticket, you just want a bunch of them, doesn't matter what the exact pick is. Our players in Utica need scoring support and Perron is younger than Pyatt and was more effective last season. We also just traded down to add another 6th. Meh.

The infuriating deal was trading away the 1st.

Don't get why people get caught up paying $0.25 more than they have to for their daily coffee. Like it's only a quarter, right? The point is those quarters add up.

There are supposed to be a lot of smart GMs. So to succeed, you have to grind it out. A quarter here, a quarter there, keep grinding. Benning doesn't agree with that. He treats every transaction like he is a multi millionare and it's no big deal to overpay a bit for something he wants.

 

[Red]

Don't get why people get caught up paying $0.25 more than they have to for their daily coffee. Like it's only a quarter, right? The point is those quarters add up.

There are supposed to be a lot of smart GMs. So to succeed, you have to grind it out. A quarter here, a quarter there, keep grinding. Benning doesn't agree with that. He treats every transaction like he is a multi millionare and it's no big deal to overpay a bit for something he wants.

But this isn't a quarter more. It's literally one cup of coffee for another cup of coffee. Christ.

 

[RealityCheck22]

But this isn't a quarter more. It's literally one cup of coffee for another cup of coffee. Christ.

If it's no big deal how about the Canucks give up the 7th and get the 6th back? Why do the Canucks always, and I mean always have to sweeten every damn deal they do?