Proposal: Van Halen's "Dump": VAN + DET

[Perennial]

Option #1

To Vancouver: Filppula

To Detroit: 2021 2nd, Juolevi, Eriksson


Vancouver clears 3 million from their cap next season, and 6 million the following year

Detroit lands a young Dman with upside, plus a 2nd rd pick in next year's draft. Eriksson's cap hit is 6 million, but his actual pay is 4 million each of the next 2 seasons


Option #2

To Vancouver: #187

To Detroit: 2021 1st, Juolevi, Eriksson


Vancouver clears 6 million from their cap next season, and 6 million the following year

Detroit lands a young Dman with upside, plus a 1st rd pick in next year's draft. Eriksson's cap hit is 6 million, but his actual pay is 4 million each of the next 2 seasons

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[devils29]

Pretty sure Det doesn’t have the cap space to do either trade. That being said I’d do Eriksson to NJ for your 2021 unprotected 1st straight up. So Eriksson +1st for future considerations basically

 

[Perennial]

Pretty sure Det doesn’t have the cap space to do either trade. That being said I’d do Eriksson to NJ for your 2021 unprotected 1st straight up. So Eriksson +1st for future considerations basically

Detroit has Franzen, Howard, Ericsson, Daley, Gagner, and Brodziak all coming off the books this year, which is about 19 million in cap space...

 

[Merrrlin]

Pretty sure Det doesn’t have the cap space to do either trade. That being said I’d do Eriksson to NJ for your 2021 unprotected 1st straight up. So Eriksson +1st for future considerations basically

You would take on Eriksson for a late 1st?

Generous...

 

[devils29]

Detroit has Franzen, Howard, Ericsson, Daley, Gagner, and Brodziak all coming off the books this year, which is about 19 million in cap space...

Oh nice. I thought you guys had some cap problems. I stand corrected.

 

[devils29]

You would take on Eriksson for a late 1st?

Generous...

I’m willing to gamble Vancouver exceeded their potential this year and that pick could be a top 10.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I’m willing to gamble Vancouver exceeded their potential this year and that pick could be a top 10.

What in the world

 

[BinCookin]

How does Vancouver feel about Juolevi? Does he still have potential?

 

[pengineer]

It was just over a fortnight ago that he played his first nhl game.

 

[devils29]

What in the world

I’m sure San Jose or Ottawa didn’t think they would regress either after trading an unprotected 1st. Canucks were in 8th place in the west before covid hit few games here or there and they could’ve missed the playoffs. If you are so confident in them then you should have no problem trading next years 1st unprotected

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Yeah

It was just over a fortnight ago that he played his first nhl game.

What? You know that was proven to be Laine they were talking about right? Juolevi had nothing to do with the fortnite discussions.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

I’m willing to gamble Vancouver exceeded their potential this year and that pick could be a top 10.

It’s entirely possible, if Benning doesn’t address the defense.

Letting Tanev walk and trying to replace him with another poor FA signing or internally could put the team in rough shape.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I’m sure San Jose or Ottawa didn’t think they would regress either after trading an unprotected 1st. Canucks were in 8th place in the west before covid hit few games here or there and they could’ve missed the playoffs. If you are so confident in them then you should have no problem trading next years 1st unprotected

Canucks are a team on the rise and are only getting better. You’re fooling yourself if you think we will be bottom 10 in the league next year, I’d bet my life savings on it.

That’s just a stupid argument. I don’t want to trade picks for shedding salary because there’s other ways of doing so. Not because I don’t think we’ll make the playoffs Id rather use that 1st for a rental in a playoff push.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

It’s entirely possible, if Benning doesn’t address the defense.

Letting Tanev walk and trying to replace him with another poor FA signing or internally could put the team in rough shape.

Not bottom 10 rough. Not a chance.

 

[devils29]

Canucks are a team on the rise and are only getting better. You’re fooling yourself if you think we will be bottom 10 in the league next year, I’d bet my life savings on it.

That’s just a stupid argument. I don’t want to trade picks for shedding salary because there’s other ways of doing so. Not because I don’t think we’ll make the playoffs Id rather use that 1st for a rental in a playoff push.

What are other ways of shedding Loui Eriksson. And fine then go ahead and think I’m a fool but it’s entirely possible no matter how much you think it’s not

 

[devils29]

It’s entirely possible, if Benning doesn’t address the defense.

Letting Tanev walk and trying to replace him with another poor FA signing or internally could put the team in rough shape.

Agreed. Guys gotta figure out what you want to do with goalies and also hope guys who had career years continue to play like that

 

[Brent Burns Beard]

How does Vancouver feel about Juolevi? Does he still have potential?

The coach and GM both like him and feel he is NHL ready.

VAN says no to both, they need OJ’s contract on the ice.

 

[GoodbyeLuongo]

There’s a lot of moves Vancouver would make before they deal Juolevi and a 2nd just to shed Eriksson.

 

[GoodbyeLuongo]

Agreed. Guys gotta figure out what you want to do with goalies and also hope guys who had career years continue to play like that

It’s not like a bunch of random guys had career years lol. Unless you don’t think Pettersson and Hughes continue on this trajectory in which well...

 

[Cogburn]

Demko+Eriksson for what ever contract slot or trinket the Red Wings want to send back has been pretty well received when Detroit fans have offered it.

Assuming we choose Markstrom going forward, of course.

Why mess with success?

 

[devils29]

It’s not like a bunch of random guys had career years lol. Unless you don’t think Pettersson and Hughes continue on this trajectory in which well...

Nah I’m talking more like Miller/Pearsson. Guys had extremely good years. If you think they stay the course production wise I understand but could also see them regressing a bit

 

[GoodbyeLuongo]

Nah I’m talking more like Miller/Pearsson. Guys had extremely good years. If you think they stay the course production wise I understand but could also see them regressing a bit

Miller I think will. Pearson maybe not.

 

[teemussalami]

Oh nice. I thought you guys had some cap problems. I stand corrected.

DET has 34mil in cap space currently not including new contracts for Mantha, Bertuzzi and Bowey? plus misc. roster fillers. They have a TON of space this year and next year. They can afford to take on some bad contracts.

 

[Perennial]

Demko+Eriksson for what ever contract slot or trinket the Red Wings want to send back has been pretty well received when Detroit fans have offered it.

Assuming we choose Markstrom going forward, of course.

Why mess with success?

I think Markstrom will be looking at 6+ million, so his contract would essentially replace Eriksson's...

Personally, I think they'd be better off going with Demko, and then using that additional cap space to retain their key free-agents...

 

[Cogburn]

I think Markstrom will be looking at 6+ million, so his contract would essentially replace Eriksson's...

Personally, I think they'd be better off going with Demko, and then using that additional cap space to retain their key free-agents...

Markstrom will be, hands down, our most expensive piece. We can resign him and make room for it, or we can walk away, neither is really a gain for cap.

If we choose to roll with Demko+Domingue(or whoever), we don't need as much cap space. 20.5 million (Ferland is on LTIR again...) to resign Toffoli, Tanev, Virtanen, Stecher, Gaudette, Motte, MacEwen, Domingue and Fantenberg (or replacements) before we move players like Rathbone into the minors (or who ever we cut to make room for him). Even with our overdue bonuses to pay, the need to dump cap goes way down if Markstrom is either walked away from, or if we move Demko+Eriksson to make room for Markstroms new contract.

If we go with Demko, we no longer need to dump cap in anywhere near the same urgent fashion as we would with Markstrom staying.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I'd prefer Demko over Juolevi, but that'd probably lower the pick value.