Proposal: VAN-CHI

[Toby Flenderson]

I don’t necessarily agree with all the Seabrook hate. Sure he’s a bit overpaid but he still puts up decent offensive numbers and blocks a bunch of shots. He’s also a veteran with tons of playoff experience. I would honestly rather have him than Eriksson or Lucic for example.

If CHI retained a bit or took an expensive contract back they should have no problem moving him.

I’d welcome him in Pittsburgh if the price was right (like taking back JJ or Gudbranson)

 

[Cogburn]

Most canuck fans are saying this is the value. If you seriously think Seabrook's contract is a first and a prospect worse than the biggest floater on the planet than you need to give your head a shake.

Subjectively, it is. We have less than zero cap space so his cap hit hurts us more than Eriksson, and his NMC is very troublesome for us as well, given our limited number of good D. The player is miles better, but the contract, for us, is worse.

 

[Space umpire]

Well what im essentially saying there is nothing chicago could offer besides an overpay that the canucks would take, erikssons contract is actually somewhat tradable considering the cap hit to salary ratio and why would we help chicago we clearly lose this trade seabrook imo has the worst contract in the league and if you want a rival to take it then its gonna take an overpay

The Canucks are a rival? Chicago is making moves trying to get back into contention for another cup. Vancouver is making moves hoping to get back to mediocre.

 

[Space umpire]

Reality, Chicago has no interest in moving Seabrook this year and probably won't want to next year either.
I understand most non Hawk fans don't watch a ton of hawk games but after being moved off the 1st pairing and lowing his minutes he was fine in a 2nd pairing PP specialist role. I can see him doing the same next year and then dropping to the 3rd pair if he isn't bought out, injured or traded to retire.
Uneducated fans rant out cap space. Chicago has the cap to ice a good team this year and then while they need to re-sign D-cat and Strome they have 11 million coming off the cap in goal. If they go into the following year paying 1 net minder 6 mill and another about a million they gain 4 million in cap space right there.
There may eventually come a time where his cap hit needs to be moved but that is at the earliest 2 years from now (with 3 years left) or even 3 years from now (with only 2 years left). They are not giving up a #3 pick to move him anytime soon.

 

[canuckslover10]

The Canucks are a rival? Chicago is making moves trying to get back into contention for another cup. Vancouver is making moves hoping to get back to mediocre.

Lol chicago isnt going to win a cup with this team dummy

 

[Teflon Jim]

Because it took a Dach-level prospect to move Lucic, right?

It’s fine if your team doesn’t want Seabrook, but it’s not going to take a Dach-like prospect to move him if the Hawks are taking a nearly equally bad contract back.

To move lucic without taking back an anchor would've cost a first , instead both the oil and flame are still in a cap crunch.
Shouldn't have to explain something so simple to a knowledgeable hockey fan.

 

[Teflon Jim]

Yes you are off...take off the 1st round pick and Hawks would say yes, if not Hawks say no

Gms are looking to dump on perlini for some reason so hes not looking too valuable right now so the sweetener sounds to be a little sour now.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

To move lucic without taking back an anchor would've cost a first , instead both the oil and flame are still in a cap crunch.
Shouldn't have to explain something so simple to a knowledgeable hockey fan.

The proposal was to take Loui back, not to drop seabrook on Vancouver for nothing

Thanks for your condescending nutsackery though

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Lol chicago isnt going to win a cup with this team dummy

Speaking in absolutes about sports is moronic. Did you expect the Blues to win last year? The Caps the year before? The Pens the two years before that?

It’s fine to say you don’t think they’ll win, or some variation of that. But to put your 100% stamp on it and call someone else a dummy is moronic and it’s a really bad post.

 

[canuckslover10]

Speaking in absolutes about sports is moronic. Did you expect the Blues to win last year? The Caps the year before? The Pens the two years before that?

It’s fine to say you don’t think they’ll win, or some variation of that. But to put your 100% stamp on it and call someone else a dummy is moronic and it’s a really bad post.

Lol i can guarantee the hawks wont win the cup this year the blues caps pens were atleast in the discussion pre regular season i dont even think chicago makes the playoffs

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Lol i can guarantee the hawks wont win the cup this year the blues caps pens were atleast in the discussion pre regular season i dont even think chicago makes the playoffs

That’s fine if it’s your opinion. Running around and calling other people “dummy” for not sharing your opinion is a bad look.

Totally ruling out a team at this point just doesn’t make sense, especially when that team had a top-10 offense last year and dramatically improved its goaltending.

Also, look at the point pace Chicago was on following the coaching change. It was a playoff caliber pace, even with the long losing streak.

I’m not here saying you’re wrong for doubting they will win a Cup, but I think you’re wrong for calling other people “dummy” and for absolutely guaranteeing they won’t win.

Anything can happen, it’s sports.

 

[Teflon Jim]

The proposal was to take Loui back, not to drop seabrook on Vancouver for nothing

Thanks for your condescending nutsackery though

You're welcome glad you enjoyed the "nutsackery"
It's not for every dude but some I guess .
Good day sir

 

[Bobby Terrance]

Subjectively, it is. We have less than zero cap space so his cap hit hurts us more than Eriksson, and his NMC is very troublesome for us as well, given our limited number of good D. The player is miles better, but the contract, for us, is worse.

Ya but a Canucks fan proposed this and you are the only one who actually provided logic. It's just absurd

 

[tony d]

I doubt very much Chicago will be able to move the Seabrook contract. Way to hefty a contract to move IMO.

 

[Cogburn]

Ya but a Canucks fan proposed this and you are the only one who actually provided logic. It's just absurd

It is, especially without context.

The OP is equally crazy though, not for value, but for cap/roster space for the Canucks. I maintain we win for value hands down.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Speaking in absolutes about sports is moronic. Did you expect the Blues to win last year? The Caps the year before? The Pens the two years before that?

It’s fine to say you don’t think they’ll win, or some variation of that. But to put your 100% stamp on it and call someone else a dummy is moronic and it’s a really bad post.

Well, maybe you shouldn't be calling other teams it when yours has missed the playoffs for two seasons.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Well, maybe you shouldn't be calling other teams it when yours has missed the playoffs for two seasons.

Still waiting for the Canucks to accomplish anything of note since Kony 2012 was a thing

 

[bandwagonesque]

Still waiting for the Canucks to accomplish anything of note since Kony 2012 was a thing

Again -- maybe you shouldn't be calling other teams it when yours has missed the playoffs for two seasons.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

Well, maybe you shouldn't be calling other teams it when yours has missed the playoffs for two seasons.

I haven’t said anything about anybody else’s team

 

[gach]

Without the 1st, the Canucks absolutely do not do this deal.

I didn't make the trade offer just giving my 2 cents. Vancouver might be able to trade Erickson but I'll bet there will not be a first round pick coming back without giving something else up

 

[Jamie Winston]

Again -- maybe you shouldn't be calling other teams it when yours has missed the playoffs for two seasons.

A nucks fan talking to a hawks fan of lack of accomplishment, cute

 

[wahsnairb]

Lol i can guarantee the hawks wont win the cup this year the blues caps pens were atleast in the discussion pre regular season i dont even think chicago makes the playoffs

You’re either trying to pick fights or just not a very educated fan (at least outside of your Canucks... I’ve only seen your opinions in this thread).

Sebrook’s contract isn’t great, but there is a difference between a good asset to move it/“overpay” and #3 overall Kirby Dach.

Then you speak like Chicago is a bad team like Vancouver right now or something. They barely missed the playoffs despite having a .903 save% and 3.33 GAA with suspect goaltending. They just added the Vezina runner-up. They also added 2 NHL level D (doesn’t matter your thoughts on de Haan and Maatta, we can all agree they are way above players like Dahlstrom who were forced to play). They have young studs like Boqvist and Mitchell ready to jump up. They then added a bunch of defensively responsible forwards in players like Shaw and Smith. They also have Europeans coming over like Kubalik and youngsters like Kurashev going to make the squad and make the 8th highest scoring team from last year even more skilled and harder to play against.

They improved their goaltending drastically, they improved their D, and they improved their F after just missing the playoffs in a bad Western conference.

It’s way more reasonable to think they could make the playoffs and a push than to think they aren’t good again.

 

[hawksrule]

I agree it would take something like Dach to move Seabrook. The Hawks have no interest in doing that, and other teams should have no interest in less than that. We need a compliance buyout, or we're stuck. It's that simple.

 

[Space umpire]

You’re either trying to pick fights or just not a very educated fan (at least outside of your Canucks... I’ve only seen your opinions in this thread).

Sebrook’s contract isn’t great, but there is a difference between a good asset to move it/“overpay” and #3 overall Kirby Dach.

Then you speak like Chicago is a bad team like Vancouver right now or something. They barely missed the playoffs despite having a .903 save% and 3.33 GAA with suspect goaltending. They just added the Vezina runner-up. They also added 2 NHL level D (doesn’t matter your thoughts on de Haan and Maatta, we can all agree they are way above players like Dahlstrom who were forced to play). They have young studs like Boqvist and Mitchell ready to jump up. They then added a bunch of defensively responsible forwards in players like Shaw and Smith. They also have Europeans coming over like Kubalik and youngsters like Kurashev going to make the squad and make the 8th highest scoring team from last year even more skilled and harder to play against.

They improved their goaltending drastically, they improved their D, and they improved their F after just missing the playoffs in a bad Western conference.

It’s way more reasonable to think they could make the playoffs and a push than to think they aren’t good again.

Who knows better than a Canuck fan what it takes to build a champion. They see it in opponents every year.

 

[elitepete]

Sorry if this has been suggested before but Lucic for Neal got me thinking.

Seabrook + Perlini (or a B prospect) + 2020 1st Round pick

For

Eriksson

Am I way off here?

Yes, you are way off.