The USACHL would've been able to attract more than three cities because you said it's "easier because it's amazing and new," your words not mine. And hockey would be growing all over the place in areas like Tijuana, Baton Rouge, Santa Fe because it would be so easy to sell hockey because it's exciting and new. Your logic, not mine. USACHL failed because it was run like a gongshow, but they would've attracted more than 3 cities if your reasoning was actually true.
That's not my logic, I was speaking generally. Plus I wasn't speaking definitively, or say it was the only reason for anything. It also wouldn't logically follow that hockey would work in any particular place. I definitely wasn't saying it would be easier for the USACHL to attract more cities because of that, and I even clarified that in the last post.
San Angelo Outlaws [WPHL] yearly attendance at hockeydb.com
San Angelo Outlaws [CHL] yearly attendance at hockeydb.com
San Angelo Saints yearly attendance at hockeydb.com
My apologies, didn't realize that they had a previous incarnation, all I did was a quick Google search. They still averaged less than 2,500 people for 5/8 seasons of play, which dates back to nearly 20 years ago. My point still stands.
There was one incarnation. The league revoked the franchise rights from the original owners (yeah, that's how bad it was) I mentioned and some other guy took over who was in over his head. He renamed the team to try and shed the bad reputation of the previous owners. Your point doesn't stand. You were wrong and even admitted it so you don't get to still claim the point.
When you make the claim that a market, who drew okay (the around 4,000 mark isn't that strong, even by EC standards and wouldn't even be top of the SP) for three years *20 years ago* then did very poorly, would be a great market, then it's a baseless claim.
Those numbers outdid anything that anyone in their wildest dreams could have imagined possible in that market. Over 4,000 in a market of 90,000 at $12/ticket over 35 home games is incredible. It was more than okay regardless of market. I'm not sure why you keep bringing up 20 years ago. There's more potential for it now than there was back then. You of course ignore the reasoning behind it doing worse after that allowing you to say it's a baseless claim. So you're not even being honest in your argument.
Especially when there's been no interest in acquiring a team in any league, there's no possible ownership group, and they're not even capable of hosting hockey.
Interest from who in acquiring a team in what league? No one is currently talking about putting a team in San Angelo so why would there be a possible ownership group? Who said they're not capable of hosting hockey? They are capable just as they were previously. I said the City of SA isn't INTERESTED in having a hockey team in the capable arena. Interest isn't the the same as capability.
You then said if they had good ownership and an arena capable of holding hockey there would surely be a team there,
There is an arena in San Angelo capable of holding hockey. I also didn't say there'd surely be a team there (although if "they had good ownership" that would literally mean that they already have a team..........). If you mean a building where hockey would be ALLOWED to play there... I still didn't say there'd surely be a team there. But there might be. There probably (not su would have been a USACHL team there in that scenario for a month or so since they wanted to enter the market as others have before.
and that claim could be literally applied to any city in the United States.
This is wrong and you know it, and it's weird that you would say it because I doubt you believe it. It's certainly possible to have good ownership and a viable arena and have it fail. I know how hard it is to make minor league sports teams work, plus there being a lot of factors besides ownership quality and a building that go into its success, and I bet you do too.
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