Blue Jays Discussion: Upton Jr acquired, also Storen & cash for Benoit

[Bad News Benning]

Connor Green 7 IP complete game shutout, 7 K, 4 hits, 2 walks

That's really good to see the K's come back. I''m still not sold on his upside but it's definitely a positive step that he generated a lot of ground balls and strikeouts.

I still wouldn't hesitate to move him for a shut down lefty like Will Smith though (or in a package for a good starter with control).

 

[le_sean]

Look at Benoit's norms for ERA+. The three years previous were 158, 228, 207. I'm going to say this small 2016 sample size is not indicative of some steep decline, all completely out of the blue.

 

[Porn*]

Benoit over storen all day. Store was junk but Benoit is just aging. Chane of scenery, catcher, coaches etc might help Ala grilli

 

[BertCorbeau]

So... Will Benoit be available to pitch tomorrow? Will probably need him! Seriously though, low risk swap to get rid of Storen.

Hopefully the Padres are completely deflated for tomorrow afternoon's game and the Jays can get the sweep. And hopefully this win really gets the team going! The offense needs to bust out of this slump they're in.

 

[canadon]

Coming home from the game right now.

Literally dead. Holy ****ity ****

Same here. Feels like I actually played tonight. Lol. But what a great game it was to see live!

 

[canucksfan]

Benoit is a decent pickup

 

[Discoverer]

It's as if you're looked at like you're a fool for thinking a 39 year old at the end of his career might be done. It's even funnier when you consider they dealt Drew Storen for the guy. That should tell you how he's been pitching. But no no, you gotta have those pom-poms out and love everything the team does. How dare anyone have realistic expectations.

They made a trade that could help them and has virtually no downside. What is there to be negative about?

 

[BertCorbeau]

Hopefully Benoit can benefit from a change of scenery and can perform well in low leverage situations to start with.

 

[PG Canuck]

I'm either going to be a genius or wrong, but I'm predicting the Jays go on a huge streak after this win. That's the kind of win that bands the boys together and give that belief that you're never down regardless of the circumstances.

This team is fun.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

They made a trade that could help them and has virtually no downside. What is there to be negative about?

Did you not bother reading what I was responding to? Everyone has the pom poms out and is convinced that this will work out. I'm simply stating it's unrealistic to expect Benoit to turn it around all of a sudden. Not negative, realistic.

 

[PG Canuck]

I don't mind the Benoit deal at all. Storen wasn't working, so try someone else. At worst, Benoit is as bad as Storen was.

 

[Eyedea]

Did you not bother reading what I was responding to? Everyone has the pom poms out and is convinced that this will work out. I'm simply stating it's unrealistic to expect Benoit to turn it around all of a sudden. Not negative, realistic.

No, people believe he could be another Grilli type arm. You're saying not to believe it. It's not that it will work out, it's that it can. Just like it could work out for the Mariners as well.

This is a classic challenge trade. Both teams could remain with the same suckage, one could come out on top, both could end up being happy.

 

[PG Canuck]

No, people believe he could be another Grilli type arm. You're saying not to believe it. It's not that it will work out, it's that it can. Just like it could work out for the Mariners as well.

This is a classic challenge trade. Both teams could remain with the same suckage, one could come out on top, both could end up being happy.

It's really just a matter of trying something new. At worst, Benoit is as ****** as Storen was. Big woop if that happens.

 

[Scrub*]

People were worried about Storen when we acquired him,some of these same people don't have the same concerns with Benoit.

 

[PG Canuck]

So after that beast performance I think Travis may have pushed me towards his side for buying his jersey.

He countered Sanchez and his solid outing the other day, so I'm really stumped now.

 

[Hoverhand]

It's really just a matter of trying something new. At worst, Benoit is as ****** as Storen was. Big woop if that happens.

No its not just a big whoop, this management group is trying to patch together our bullpen with duct tape an chewing gum. We only have a few more days until the trade deadline and if it doesn't work out we're ****ed.

 

[PG Canuck]

No its not just a big whoop, this management group is trying to patch together our bullpen with duct tape an chewing gum. We only have a few more days until the trade deadline and if it doesn't work out we're ****ed.

You can start freaking out when the deadline is over. Now is not the time for it.

 

[Hoverhand]

You can start freaking out when the deadline is over. Now is not the time for it.

I'm a Toronto sports fan. It is always freaking out time.

 

[PG Canuck]

I'm a Toronto sports fan. It is always freaking out time.

Haha, fair enough man.

But the Jays management even said themselves after the Upton deal that pitching help is the main focus. They know it's an issue and are willing to address it.

All depends on the market now and until the deadline is passed, then I'll choose whether to freak out or not.

 

[Leafblooded]

Does Marcus remind anyone else of Brett Lawrie? Smallish dude, tons of gumption but a little too high strung? Hot start, huge expectations, hopefully he can put it together down the stretch with a bit more zip to his pitches.

 

[Bad News Benning]

No its not just a big whoop, this management group is trying to patch together our bullpen with duct tape an chewing gum. We only have a few more days until the trade deadline and if it doesn't work out we're ****ed.

you know what most successful bullpens have in common? they are patched together with duct tape and chewing gum. Grilli was acquired for a role of duck tape and Biagini was picked up for a box of hubba bubba.

RP are so unpredictable outside of the very elite arms. Nobody really knows what Benoit will do in Toronto. Sometimes you throw **** against the wall and it sticks.

You also need to relax since the trade deadline isn't over and there's plenty of bullpen arms on the market.

 

[Bad News Benning]

Does Marcus remind anyone else of Brett Lawrie? Smallish dude, tons of gumption but a little too high strung? Hot start, huge expectations, hopefully he can put it together down the stretch with a bit more zip to his pitches.

I thought he was great tonight. He made one mistake that im sure he's love to have back but had some good swing and miss action going.

I still view this as a positive sign. The Oakland start was the only start where he looked bad. He's been spinning the ball well otherwise and generating a lot of ground balls.

 

[hoglund]

No its not just a big whoop, this management group is trying to patch together our bullpen with duct tape an chewing gum. We only have a few more days until the trade deadline and if it doesn't work out we're ****ed.

That's a terrible attitude and not even rational. The bullpen needs a little help, but with Sanchez and Osuna as the set up man and closer and Grilli and Cecil as the right and left handed middle men, they really only need 1 or 2 more and Benoit can't do worse than Storen. The real worry is the need for another starter once Sanchez is gone, to fill a spot which is now a Cy Young contender is hard and there aren't many options, not too many teams are going to give up their ace for prospects, Sale is the only one that comes to mind, but I think with him there comes a lot of baggage.

 

[Edo]

Would anybody be interested in a Stroman + for Archer package?

 

[Road Rage]

I don't know for Stroman. I still think that it's just a " Sophomore Slump " and next year everything will be all right for him.