Well if they utilized methods not permitted by the rules... it would actually be unconstitutional.
Unauthorized video review results in a Penalty. Minny vs Van
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Well if they utilized methods not permitted by the rules... it would actually be unconstitutional.
Can’t have 10 minute delays in game to have Toronto look at calls. . . Missed calls happen every game. . If we’re gonna do reviews from Toronto every time, games are gonna last 4 hours
I’m fine w this as a one off as they did get the call right, but if they’re gonna go outside of the officiating rulebook like this, they’d better put some language around it
Lol the Canucks got a double minor from someone getting high sticked by their own teammate. That's more sad. They must be consistent with video replay.
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Based on the title I totally thought a team requested something to be reviewed that couldn't be, the refs did it anyway, then realized hey they can't do that, and penalized said team as a result.
I'm disappointed that was not the case.
I'm disappointed that was not the case.
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But you initially quoted me where I stated this situation wasn't a good precedent.
The situation was the coach getting upset and prompting a review of a play, causing a penalty to be called.
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That is not what happened though. Ref saw the penalty but didn't get the number (he got took out accidently right after the high sticks), he asked the box if they got the number. The box called Toronto too get it.
The Penalty was happening either way.
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Has this actually been confirmed? I can see this as a possible answer (I hope it is the actual answer) but I've only seen this speculated.
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Exactly.
Imagine Game 7, Stanley Cup Finals...you're in OT and your player high sticked one of their guys but on the same play, another player high sticked yours...I'd want that 10mins to figure that shit out if it takes that long so my team isn't screwed a chance to win and being fair and all of that.
I am glad this happened because like you also posted, it sets a precedent. I don't give a rat's ass if NFL or whomever doesn't do it, this isn't football. If we want to see some new officiating rules, we will see new officiating rules. It just means players will now be more cautious about trying to get away with crap.
Apparently that's a bad thing.
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I think everyone wants to see the game called correctly with as little human error as possible. But I think the question is whether the ref is actually allowed to review a missed call and assess a penalty. My understanding is that this is not allowed. If this is true, and refs are deciding what they can or cannot do on their own, I'm not sure this is a "precedent" worth setting.
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MAYBE THEY SHOULD...
Do you get that or not? Advance with the times, it's about time the league looked at that when there is a dispute on the ice about a penalty. Just like with a video review, if nothing comes back then your team should get a penalty for wasting time, set a time limit, if it cannot be determined within 3mins, on ice review stands and penalty for whatever they find, whether it was a false call or a real call.
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Friedman tweeted that's what happened,
Can't link to twitter where I am , but his tweet says "According to NHL: Referee was asking for the proper numbers of the players doing the high sticking. No Review"
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What about all the teams that were victims of violations that WEREN'T sent to review?
You can either refer to video or not. If you cannot, then you should not ever do it, because then you're giving preference to one team over others.
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No actually they asked the linemens and then made the correct call which is allowed. You just don't understand what is happening and assume it was him starring up at the jumbotron.
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I have no problem with a ref doing the right thing to get a call if he missed it. It beats the time Sidney Crosby complained his way out of the penalty box.
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It's not that it isnt fair. It's that you cant spend 2-10 minutes appeasing coaches via review, everytime they feel the refs screwed something up. The NHL would be slower than the NFL if they started allowing this stuff
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Inconsistency in different calls is really ruining the league. If it's an offside or penalty or no goal in 1 game it should be like it every single game.
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As mentioned a number of times in this thread, per the NHL via Freidman the Ref saw the penalty but missed the number, he conferred with the scorekeeper to try get the correct number, who called Toronto to verify.
The penalty was already called. Wild's coaches had nothing to do with. The review did not cause the penalty to be called, just got the right person in the box.
