ChuckSurette
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I was hoping for a Rob Dimaio comment - but that was better. Respect. CUPE 1147 over here.
Player Discussion Tuukka Rask - VII
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I was hoping for a Rob Dimaio comment - but that was better. Respect. CUPE 1147 over here.
Dennis Bonvie
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2014-15 11th in save percentage, 11th in goals against 16th
2015-16 22nd in SP, 22nd in GA
2016-17 21st in SP, 7th in GA
2017-18 17th in SP, 9th in GA
2018-19 20th in SP, 11th in GA
In those 5 seasons he received a total of 7 votes (all in 2017-18) for the Vezina trophy.
Perhaps I was being too kind saying he was a top 10 in that period.
And, Tuukka currently stands 3 all-time in save percentage. And that's not really all-time because the stats for that category only go back to 1956.
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In order to preserve board unity, and keep the mods from tearing their hair out, maybe we should just circle back on this later in the season.
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You said that you're too kind putting him as a top 10 goalie during that time? I'm not looking for a list but I don't think you can think of 10 goalies that would have won us more games during that stretch. He might be 11th one year of 12th another but he's done it that whole time, nobody can be top 10 every year.
Bringing Vezina votes into it is a stupid argument because Carey Price has received votes in 5 of the last 8 years yet the two worst seasons of Tuukka's career 2014 & 2018 are basically Price's career stat line.
And, Tuukka currently stands tied in 1st all time save percentage at .922, they measure to the thousandths. If you insist we can go another decimal and he is 1/10,000 of a percentage point behind Hasek for #2. If you are so uncomfortable calling him one of the best all time I'm comfortable going with one of the best since 1956, I'll give you that.
Dennis Bonvie
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Once again, talking strictly about the 5 years in question:
6th in goals against average, 17th in save percentage
Top 10 in that period is being kind
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A friend sent me this from a past season. I hope we don't see Tuukka this pissed off anytime soon (he was pulled ). I am sitting next to him (that is why this was sent to me).
The kid with the glasses behind Tuukka is Sweeney's son.
The kid with the glasses behind Tuukka is Sweeney's son.
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Would you make the same disclaimer about Martin Brodeur?
Tuuk is one of the best in the NHL and has been since he started with the B's
If Rask were to retire tomorrow, he wouldn't get in the HHOF. Aside from Gerry Cheevers, the HHOF is pretty strict on goalies, and Rask would miss the cut.
| Player | Vezina Finishes | All-Star team selections | Hart Record | Sv%/ Finishes | Wins |
| Rask | 1,2,5,7,7 | 1,2,4,5,7,8 | (best was 11) | 0.922/ 1,2,2,3 | 5,5,7,7,9 |
Also, check out this NHL.com article regarding Luongo going to the HHOF Luongo first-ballot Hall of Fame credentials debated by NHL.com the almost unanimous opinion is he will get to the HHOF eventually, but not a first ballot guy.
| Player | Vezina Finishes | All-Star team selections | Hart Record | Sv%/ Finishes |
| Lundqvist | 1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,6,6 | 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,7,8,8,9 | 3,9 | 0.918/4,4,5,7,8,9,10 |
| Luongo | 2,3,3,4,4,7,7,9,10 | 2,2,3,3,5,5,8,10 | 2,6 | 0.919/3,3,3,4,5,7,9,9,9,10 |
| Kiprusoff | 1,2,3,5,7,8,8 | 1,4,4,5,6,6 | 3,4 | 0.912/1,3,9,9,10 |
| Price | 1,3,4,5,9,10 | 1,4,4,5,8 | 1,7 | 0.918/1,4,6,7,9 |
| Rask | 1,2,5,7,7 | 1,2,4,5,7,8 | (best was 11) | 0.922/ 1,2,2,3 |
| Thomas | 1,1,9 | 1,1,10 | 5,7 | 0.920/1,1,4,7 |
| Quick | 2,3,5,7,8,9 | 2,3,5,9 | 5 | 0.914/ 5 |
| Rinne | 1,2,2,3,7 | 1,2,3,3,10 | 4,7,8 | 0.919/2,7,7,9,10 |
| Bobrovsky | 1,1,8,8,9 | 1,1,5,7 | 5,7 | 0.919/1,2,9 |
| Nabokov | 2,4,4,4,5,6 | 1,4,5,6,7,8,8 | 7 | 0.911/ 6,7,8,10 |
| Fleury | 4,5,7,8 | 4,5,6,7,7,8,8 | 9 | 0.913/5,6,10 |
| Holtby | 1,2,4 | 1,2,4 | 4,10 | 0.918/ 4,8,8 |
| Vasilevskiy | 1,3,3 | 1,3,3 | (best was 22) | 0.920 / 6 |
| Hellebuyck | 1,2 | 1,2 | 6 | 0.917/ 7,10 |
| Ward | 7,7 | 7,8 | (best was 17) | 0.908/8 |
| Miller | 1,6 | 1,6,8 | 4 | 0.915/2,5,8,10 |
| Player | Vezina Finishes | All-Star team selections | Hart Record | Sv%/ Finishes | |
| Joseph | 2,3,3,4,5,8,10 | 4,4,5,7,8,8 | (best 11) | 0.906/ 1,2,6,6,7 | |
| Liut | 2,5,7,10 | 1,2,3,4,8,8,9 | 2,3,6 | 0.905 / 5,8,9,10 | |
| Barrasso | 1,2,2,2,3,7,9 | 1,2,2,3,4,8 | 6,8,9 | 0.892 / 2,4,4,5,6,10 |
Liut would have a Vezina, but his best year the Vezina was still awarded to the goalie(s) who allowed the fewest goals. He would also have a Hart Trophy if some kid in 81 named Gretzky wasn't there.
Barrasso was hockey's biggest ******
Rask is one of the best goalies of his generation, but he isn't one of the 'best all time' (for me meaning HHOF worthy). There aren't many goalies I would take over Rask in his generation, but this is a rather weak generation for goalies.
One could argue the HHOF should loosen the requirements on goalies, but that would mean that Price, Rask, Quick, Rinne are also HHOFers (and many more from history).
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Number8
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Ladyfan acting nonchalant. She knows she has an angry goalie next to her. A very angry goalie. She actually wants to look to see how angry the goalie is. In fact she really really really wants to take a peak to see just how angry.
But finally, at the end of the day, she decides that it is a wiser move to look off to her right -- acting as if something else has caught her attention and that everything is simply A-O-K.
Dennis Bonvie
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Brodeur actually played for the best defensive team I've ever seen. A big part of it was Brodeur's ability to handle the puck. But to me, his puck stopping ability was overrated.
Ladyfan acting nonchalant. She knows she has an angry goalie next to her. A very angry goalie. She actually wants to look to see how angry the goalie is. In fact she really really really wants to take a peak to see just how angry.
But finally, at the end of the day, she decides that it is a wiser move to look off to her right -- acting as if something else has caught her attention and that everything is simply A-O-K.
Actually I looked at him when he first got back to the bench after being pulled but was a little hard to see him through the steam coming out of his ears. I decided to watch the game instead.Tuukka doesn't have a good poker face and when he is displeased it shows. We have seen him give some of his d-men killer faces.
I miss seeing the B's up close. Hopefully by next year we can go back to games
Sheppy
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Tuukus Maximus last night. Stole that one, and he has stolen many in his Bruins career. So glad the Rangers didn't score when he went walkabout in the third
I should've put quotes around it to make it clear that it was a shot at the haters that love to make that claim, particularly in the offseason when it becomes more difficult to cite exact games like this to discredit them.
I'm arguably the biggest rask supporter here.....admittedly to a fault sometimes.
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Fact. Absolutely. There probably hasn’t been a more consistent goalie since he joined the league. Rask is high quality. When he retires the bruins are going to feel it.
Number8
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!
Tuukka doesn't have a good poker face and when he is displeased it shows. We have seen him give some of his d-men killer faces.
I miss seeing the B's up close. Hopefully by next year we can go back to games
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