Tuukka Rask VII

BB88

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What Binnington displayed in the 1st period is exactly what Rask lacks. Rask had the better playoffs and the better Final, but when it came down to it at the very end, Binngton made numerous saves that he shouldn't have made while Rask let in 2 goals on 4 shots, even if they weren't egregious goals to give up. Binnington elevated his game, and Rask regressed.

Game 6 wasn't a must win game?

Would be just better to almost trade him to get him out of the mess, the entire 2nd line decides not to show up but Rask Rask Rask Rask lost them the Cup.
 

koyvoo

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This just feeds into the narrative that he's a choker, I haven't argued anything else or pretended that he didn't have a great playoffs overall. Amazing in the first 3 rounds, solid in the Cup Final up til Game 7 (with an exceptional Game 6) and then completely ****s the bed in Game 7, the most important game.
The skaters who do couldnt score a single goal until the game was over choked to far, far greater degree.
 

Braunbaer

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Same old, Tuukka.
You can play lights out for months, but if you don't stop that shot that eliminates you, you have immediately choked or sucked or whatever. No matter if it happens in game 5 of the second round or in game 7 of the Final.
 

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Pretty hard for anyone to deny that Rask really let this team down in the
1st period. For the Blues to score on their only 2 chances is a hard one to take. Unfortunately game 7 failures in the final will define his career. He had been great up until last night. All of the forwards who made Binnington look like a HOF, especially Marchand also need to take a close look in the mirror.
 

ON3M4N

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Pretty hard for anyone to deny that Rask really let this team down in the
1st period. For the Blues to score on their only 2 chances is a hard one to take. Unfortunately game 7 failures in the final will define his career. He had been great up until last night. All of the forwards who made Binnington look like a HOF, especially Marchand also need to take a close look in the mirror.

This was the only game 7 he's played in the finals
 

Pia8988

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Rask was not the problem last night.

I do not care that the Bruins "dominated" the first. They scored ZERO goals. None. And they turned around and gave up golden chances.

O'reilly didn't tip the shot into Tuukka's crest. Pietrangelo didn't shoot the puck wide.

Their players converted. Ours didn't.

And if our players are that mentally soft that they can't just win the 2nd and 3rd periods to take the cup, then we didn't deserve to be there in the first place. Binnington gave up a lot more softies this postseason than Rask did.

If only the Blues shot the puck into Rask like Marchand did to Binnington. But blaming Rask will be the easy out for people.
 

D1az

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Rask should just be average so that the haters never got to see and judge any "this was when it mattered"-games.
 
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For all of us talking about how lucky binnington was this year, I feel the need to point out just how people from other fanbases could kind of say the same thing about Thomas in 2011

Some of the crazy saves he made? All through that playoff run? What were the odds on him doing that? It was nuts. And he came back to earth in the years after that, didn't he?

Blaming Rask, calling him a choker...it's just kind of ridiculous. The run Thomas went on was a RARITY. We need to stop treating that as the standard. And also, is Rask also responsible for scoring in games like last night?

Oh wait. That's supposed to be the chief responsibility of the FORWARDS, isn't it? Guess who didn't do their jobs last night. Rask may take blame, and he deserves some, but it wasn't on him last night. Nobody scored and that's what really hurt this team in the first period. If they score even on that first powerplay, I think the game has a totally different outcome.

You can't pin that on Tukka. Tukka kept this team alive in plenty of bad situations in this playoffs this year.
 

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When Bruins can win a series (excluding Game 7):

2010 Sabres Game 6 - 3/30
2010 Flyers Game 4 - 5/34
2010 Flyers Game 5 - 4/31
2010 Flyers Game 6 - 2/27
2013 Leafs Game 5 - 2/33
2013 Leafs Game 6 - 2/26
2013 Rangers Game 4 - 4/32
2013 Rangers Game 5 - 1/29
2013 Penguins Game 4 - 0/26
2014 Red Wings Game 5 - 2/33
2014 Canadiens Game 6 - 4/28
2018 Leafs Game 5 - 4/13
2018 Leafs Game 6 - 2/29
2019 Jackets Game 6 - 0/39
2019 Hurricanes Game 4 - 0/24

15 GP: 35/434 = .919

Elimination Games (including Game 7):

2010 Flyers Game 7 - 4/27
2013 Leafs Game 7 - 4/28
2013 Blackhawks Game 6 - 3/31
2014 Canadiens Game 7 - 3/18
2017 Senators Game 5 - 2/43
2017 Senators Game 6 - 3/29
2018 Leafs Game 7 - 4/24
2018 Lightning Game 5 - 2/21
2019 Leafs Game 6 - 2/24
2019 Leafs Game 7 - 1/33
2019 Blues Game 6 - 1/29
2019 Blues Game 7 - 4/20

12 GP: 33/327 = .899

All other games (62 GP): 136/2025 = .933
 
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When Bruins can win a series (excluding Game 7):

2010 Sabres Game 6 - 3/30
2010 Flyers Game 4 - 5/34
2010 Flyers Game 5 - 4/31
2010 Flyers Game 6 - 2/27
2013 Leafs Game 5 - 2/33
2013 Leafs Game 6 - 2/26
2013 Rangers Game 4 - 4/32
2013 Rangers Game 5 - 1/29
2013 Penguins Game 4 - 0/26
2014 Red Wings Game 5 - 2/33
2014 Canadiens Game 6 - 4/28
2018 Leafs Game 5 - 4/13
2018 Leafs Game 6 - 2/29
2019 Jackets Game 6 - 0/39
2019 Hurricanes Game 4 - 0/24

15 GP: 35/434 = .919

Elimination Games (including Game 7):

2010 Flyers Game 7 - 4/27
2013 Leafs Game 7 - 4/28
2013 Blackhawks Game 6 - 3/31
2014 Canadiens Game 7 - 3/18
2017 Senators Game 5 - 2/43
2017 Senators Game 6 - 3/29
2018 Leafs Game 7 - 4/24
2018 Lightning Game 5 - 2/21
2019 Leafs Game 6 - 2/24
2019 Leafs Game 7 - 1/33
2019 Blues Game 6 - 1/29
2019 Blues Game 7 - 4/20

12 GP: 33/327 = .899

All other games (62 GP): 136/2025 = .933

Not a good picture at all.
However, it needs some context. I would be curious to see how other goaltenders fared in these situations as well. I have a suspicion, not based on anything, that unless you are truly one of the best goalies (Roy, Hasek, etc.) your stats in this situations as a goaltender does go down.
 

Trap Jesus

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Not a good picture at all.
However, it needs some context. I would be curious to see how other goaltenders fared in these situations as well. I have a suspicion, not based on anything, that unless you are truly one of the best goalies (Roy, Hasek, etc.) your stats in this situations as a goaltender does go down.
Here's Quick. They're 2 goalies with similar career games played and similar breakdowns for clinching games vs. elimination games, except one has a reputation for being able to get it done.

When Kings can win a series (excluding Game 7):

2012 Canucks Game 4 - 3/30
2012 Canucks Game 5 - 1/27
2012 Blues Game 4 - 1/24
2012 Coyotes Game 4 - 2/21
2012 Coyotes Game 5 - 3/41
2012 Devils Game 4 - 2/23
2012 Devils Game 5 - 2/19
2012 Devils Game 6 - 1/18
2013 Blues Game 6 - 1/22
2013 Sharks Game 6 - 2/26
2014 Hawks Game 5 - 5/45
2014 Hawks Game 6 - 4/25
2014 Rangers Game 4 - 2/19
2014 Rangers Game 5 - 2/30

14 GP: 31/370 = .916

Elimination games (including Game 7):

2010 Canucks Game 6 - 3/21
2011 Sharks Game 5 - 1/52
2011 Sharks Game 6 - 4/35
2013 Sharks Game 7 - 1/26
2013 Kings Game 5 - 4/35
2014 Sharks Game 4 - 3/39
2014 Sharks Game 5 - 0/30
2014 Sharks Game 6 - 1/26
2014 Sharks Game 7 - 1/40
2014 Ducks Game 6 - 1/22
2014 Ducks Game 7 - 2/27
2014 Hawks Game 7 - 4/41
2016 Sharks Game 5 - 5/27
2018 Knights Game 4 - 1/21

14 GP: 31/442 = .930

All other games (57 GP): 133/1691 = .921
 
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NDiesel

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He doesn't show up for big games is such a moronic misconception. If he didn't show up for Game 6 (1 goal against on like 38 shots), we aren't even talking about his Game 7 performance. If he doesn't show up for game 7 against Toronto we aren't talking about game 7 in the cup finals.

Fact is without Rask showing up for each of the 15 wins these playoffs we wouldn't be watching hockey in June.

What is truly embarrassing is 3 goals for in the last 2 Stanley cup losses. Absolutely embarrassing showing by the core players.
 
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LouJersey

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So played 24 play-off games

most shots against 742 (good defense guys!) (binnington was tied w him 742)
most saves 693 (Binnington had 678 which is 15 more goals)
.934 save percentage (Binnington had .914)
2.02 ga (Binnington 2.46)
2 sho (led league)
19 quality starts
goals saved above average 13.04 Binnington by comparison was - 1.96

Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves pinning this on Rask.

Bruins would never have been close to competing for a Cup without him. Ingrates
 

NDiesel

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So played 24 play-off games

most shots against 742 (good defense guys!) (binnington was tied w him 742)
most saves 693 (Binnington had 678 which is 15 more goals)
.934 save percentage (Binnington had .914)
2.02 ga (Binnington 2.46)
2 sho (led league)
19 quality starts
goals saved above average 13.04 Binnington by comparison was - 1.96

Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves pinning this on Rask.

Bruins would never have been close to competing for a Cup without him. Ingrates
It's not even worth our time arguing this - the people who pin it on him have their mind made up already and no amount of logic is going to change it.

In the end one sub par game out of 24 is the reason we lost for some posters - of course we will ignore that had he not played how he did for 23 games we are likely done watching hockey in early May.
 

mjhfb

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When Bruins can win a series (excluding Game 7):

2010 Sabres Game 6 - 3/30
2010 Flyers Game 4 - 5/34
2010 Flyers Game 5 - 4/31
2010 Flyers Game 6 - 2/27
2013 Leafs Game 5 - 2/33
2013 Leafs Game 6 - 2/26
2013 Rangers Game 4 - 4/32
2013 Rangers Game 5 - 1/29
2013 Penguins Game 4 - 0/26
2014 Red Wings Game 5 - 2/33
2014 Canadiens Game 6 - 4/28
2018 Leafs Game 5 - 4/13
2018 Leafs Game 6 - 2/29
2019 Jackets Game 6 - 0/39
2019 Hurricanes Game 4 - 0/24

15 GP: 35/434 = .919

Elimination Games (including Game 7):

2010 Flyers Game 7 - 4/27
2013 Leafs Game 7 - 4/28
2013 Blackhawks Game 6 - 3/31
2014 Canadiens Game 7 - 3/18
2017 Senators Game 5 - 2/43
2017 Senators Game 6 - 3/29
2018 Leafs Game 7 - 4/24
2018 Lightning Game 5 - 2/21
2019 Leafs Game 6 - 2/24
2019 Leafs Game 7 - 1/33
2019 Blues Game 6 - 1/29
2019 Blues Game 7 - 4/20

12 GP: 33/327 = .899

All other games (62 GP): 136/2025 = .933

He played great most postseason, if my math is correct that 4/20 was unfortunately a .800Sv% in game 7.
Sucks that some rookie kid posted a .970Sv%.
 

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