[TSN]: Goals should be worth two points

[5150]

they have lost a lot of credibility since losing 75% of the NHL market, but this is a new low for TSN!

So sportnets gained the credibility?

Because the majority of the analyst are goons on that station.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

As Eichel said, all goals are not created equal either.
What's the difference between a Kucherov snipe and the puck going in off your butt? Is that worth 2? 1.5 instead for crackin' one in the net with your rear end?

Exactly.

It's flawed logic and it is annoying that someone who writes for a major network would actually think it is worthy of publication.

 

[sparxx87]

Intangibles should be worth 50 points each.

So Toews can dominate the awards? No thanks.

Leave it the way it is. In certain instances I get it, but assists are often just as, if not more integral to the play than the finish. The importance of the second assist varies so don’t change that either.

Hockey is too random. Current method isn’t always perfect but it’s the best way.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Typical Toronto Sports Network. As soon as the Leafs get a goal scoring center they campaign to make goals worth more.

 

[These Are The Days]

How is it that we common folk can struggle so much from day to day and a nationally syndicated writer can make triple the living pumping out crap like this and get away with it?

 

[MJ65]

What a terrible idea to even think about it - so unfair to a defense man, a setup guy (working hard to get the puck to a scoring forward), a goalie make a game saving save and so on

There are so many dirty / freebies / EN goals are scored specially in this league, not only that you are giving an incentive for players to be selfish in order to score more goals

Keeping puck out of your own net is equally important as scoring goals

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Assists need to be more subjective (but regulated and standardized)

Some plays deserve 4 or even 5 assists with an impressive team cycle game but only get two.
Other plays deserve zero assists but get two.

Also scoring chance assists and stretch passes should be worth more than point shot resets and 5 foot neutral zone passes.

 

[Dreakon13]

"Third: Hockey games are determined by total team goals, not total team assists. Goals are recorded on the scoreboard, not assists. And until assists are, it can’t be argued goals and assists are of equal value."

How about this, games only go to OT if the total team goals AND assists are equal after three periods. If both teams have 1 goal, but one of the teams had more players involved in the play to score... they get the tie-breaker.

 

[izzy]

why tsn

 

[RussCourtnallsGhost]

You guys are soooo stupid. Everyone knows that Anson Carter > the Sedins.

 

[Trapper]

Intangibles should be worth 50 points each.

And OT should be settled by a goalie fight. Who wants it more? Blocker and stick battle. Finish Him!

 

[Paralyzer]

they have lost a lot of credibility since losing 75% of the NHL market, but this is a new low for TSN!

Is this their way of saying Matthews >>>>>>>>>>> McDavid? Because I'm with you on that what a joke.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

The only way I could see a change to the point system working is if a goal is worth one point and THE VALUE of all assists on each particular goal must add up to one.

So, for example:

Crosby, assisted by Malkin and Letang = 1pt for Crosby, .5 for Malkin, .5 for Letang.
Crosby, assisted by Malkin - 1pt for Crosby, 1 pt for Malkin

That said, it still has flaws (value of 1st vs 2nd assist being the most immediately apparent; also, are goals really worth more than an assist? Maybe unassisted goals are worth more than assisted goals? God, this is exhausting).

I think the current system is fine.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Is this their way of saying Matthews >>>>>>>>>>> McDavid? Because I'm with you on that what a joke.

Honestly, this is the first thing I thought when I saw this thread.

 

[I am not exposed]

Is this TSNs subtle way of giving Matthews more of a chance of getting more 'points' throughout the season compared to McDavid?

 

[Battle Lin]

dont count points, just count goals and assist

 

[Trapper]

Intangibles should be worth 50 points each.

And beards. Thornton and Burns should get 50 each for awesome beards. Each missing tooth is also worth 10. Cause like value to a hockey team.

 

[Pi]

Is this their way of saying Matthews >>>>>>>>>>> McDavid? Because I'm with you on that what a joke.

I don't think it's that hard to understand that goals are worth more than assists. For every goal scored, there can be 0-2 assists, but for 0-2 assists, there is only one goal.

Ties are broken with goals. If a player has 100 points with 35 goals and another player has 100 with 36 goals, the player with the most goals is awarded the Art Ross.

The system should not be changed though because it is very hard to quantify how much more a goal is worth than an assist. If you quantify goals, you also have to quantify primary vs secondary assist.

 

[Pi]

they have lost a lot of credibility since losing 75% of the NHL market, but this is a new low for TSN!

Why have they lost credibility? Is it because of the Leafs coverage?

People sure didn't mind Leafs coverage when waffles and jerseys were being thrown on the ice and Kessel was being picked last in an all star draft.

Why the sudden change?

 

[StrangeVision]

Please no.

 

[Face Of Bear]

If you're a part of an NHL front office trying to build a team I can understand trying to determine the exact value of goals/assists for roster decisions. But for fans/the point system, deciding that goals are arbitrarily worth 2x what assists are just makes things more complicated without adding any real value

 

[Paralyzer]

I don't think it's that hard to understand that goals are worth more than assists. For every goal scored, there can be 0-2 assists, but for 0-2 assists, there is only one goal.

Ties are broken with goals. If a player has 100 points with 35 goals and another player has 100 with 36 goals, the player with the most goals is awarded the Art Ross.

The system should not be changed though because it is very hard to quantify how much more a goal is worth than an assist. If you quantify goals, you also have to quantify primary vs secondary assist.

Only way those goals ever become goals is by the person assisting on them. If assists never counted, do you think the players who pass first would pass still? They would want the goal for themselves, thus, making it an individual sport and not a team sport.

 

[authentic]

Anyone who has played hockey or followed the game long enough knows damn well goals are not worth twice as much as assists. I would argue on average a primary assist is worth as much as a goal, and even secondaries quite often are very important parts of the play hence why they give them out in the first place. If people want to argue about the worth of a goal vs. an assist based on how often each of them are registered by players, then secondary assists would be worth the most since players register less of those than primary points.

 

[daver]

I don't think it's that hard to understand that goals are worth more than assists. For every goal scored, there can be 0-2 assists, but for 0-2 assists, there is only one goal.

Ties are broken with goals. If a player has 100 points with 35 goals and another player has 100 with 36 goals, the player with the most goals is awarded the Art Ross.

The system should not be changed though because it is very hard to quantify how much more a goal is worth than an assist. If you quantify goals, you also have to quantify primary vs secondary assist.

Going from a tiebreaker to double the value is not really the natural progression. The funny thing is that every player has a chance to accumulate assists so noone is getting "robbed".

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

Just eliminate the second assist.

This. Kill the secondary assist and go from there. Primary point production is all that matters.