Trouble ahead? Spending cap MAY DROP for 2015-16

[bb_fan]

I always wondered why, if the league and players agreed to an adjustable cap, why didn't they also do adjustable salaries?

in other words, if the cap goes down by 10%, so do contracts (I'm no economist, so that's a general, probably extremely simplified statement.)

that way teams aren't screwed by the cap, and players aren't signing long term 'reduced' salaries during a low cap year.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Even more reasons to trade Kelly and Seids.

As for the Bruins being in trouble, so will all the other teams that spend to the Cap.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Not really surprising. IIRC well over half of the leagues revenue comes from Canada so a weaker Canadian dollar will have a huge effect on the NHL.

Especially that TV deal with Rodgers/TVA that is paid in canadian dollar.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Chiarelli was fired a year too late. ****ed us over by not doing anything during the 2014 offseason, extending Julien and Smith, and adding Talbot on top of it.

Talbot has a Cap hit of 750k for next year. Pretty good Cap hit for a veteran 4th liner/13th F.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

I always wondered why, if the league and players agreed to an adjustable cap, why didn't they also do adjustable salaries?

in other words, if the cap goes down by 10%, so do contracts (I'm no economist, so that's a general, probably extremely simplified statement.)

that way teams aren't screwed by the cap, and players aren't signing long term 'reduced' salaries during a low cap year.

Have you ever heard or escrow?

 

[bb_fan]

Have you ever heard or escrow?

I have, but I would have no idea how that ties into the salary structure and adjustable cap.

 

[cat400]

I don't want to turn this thread into a bash Rask's salary thread; however The Globe & Mail has an interesting article on goalies' salaries and Stanley Cup success.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...spending-big-on-most-goalies/article24058773/

"The question that always comes next is can you win the Stanley Cup with one of these cheap, unprovens in goal? Well, it’s been happening, even when they haven’t been given this many chances. Only six of the last 18 finalists had starters making more than $4-million."

 

[ThorntonFightClub*]

I don't want to turn this thread into a bash Rask's salary thread; however The Globe & Mail has an interesting article on goalies' salaries and Stanley Cup success.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...spending-big-on-most-goalies/article24058773/

"The question that always comes next is can you win the Stanley Cup with one of these cheap, unprovens in goal? Well, it’s been happening, even when they haven’t been given this many chances. Only six of the last 18 finalists had starters making more than $4-million."

That's more a product of the top goalies are all young and still on an ELC or bridge deal.

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

it's also a pretty piddly sample size given the variance of a finals. we only care about the cap era, and in that we just don't have enough winners to qualify much of anything.

 

[DaBroons]

Can the people saying this should mean trading Loui explain why? He's one of our best cap hits for his production. Does not compute.

Loui does all the little things extremely well. He just doesn't crash bodies doing it. He goes to the net and scores some ugly goals, but someone has to do it.

He's found his game this year, being healthier than last year. However, what line suits him best next year? He and Soda had great chemistry. Neither did as well when they were separated. And I can't see Soda re-signed given the cap, as much I like him.

IF they decide to trade Loui, and I'm not in agreement with that, but if they do, then I would look to Vancouver. Loui looked really good playing for Sweden on the top line at the Olympics and would be a great fit with both Sedins (Henrik was out for the Olympics IIRC).

If he stays, then try him at LW with Krejci and Connolly to start.

Oh and BTW, Loui has probably played 70% of his career in the NHL on the off-wing, so R or L doesn't really affect him much.

 

[Bruin4Life]

Trade kelly and sign soderberg for kellys cap (saves 1 mil)
Let Bart and McQuaid (sad yes I know) walk and let Trotman and Miller take over Saves you 2.7 mil)
Sign Glencross/Morrow/Havlat (some type of vet player) for 2.5 mil

Trade Krejci + Smith for help on defence = Get Jones or Ekholm
Trade Seidenberg for a 2nd rounder . Sign Odoya for 2 mil (saves another 2 mil

Marchand - Bergeron - Connoly
Lucic - Spooner - Pasta
Morrow - Soderberg - Erikson
Ferlin - Talbot - Randell

Chara-Hamilton
Jones- Miller
Oduya - Krug
*Trotman *Volchenkov

 

[BB88]

I don't want to turn this thread into a bash Rask's salary thread; however The Globe & Mail has an interesting article on goalies' salaries and Stanley Cup success.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...spending-big-on-most-goalies/article24058773/

"The question that always comes next is can you win the Stanley Cup with one of these cheap, unprovens in goal? Well, it’s been happening, even when they haven’t been given this many chances. Only six of the last 18 finalists had starters making more than $4-million."

Rask, Quick, Crawford, King have been the finalist lately, I'd say you need strong goalie to compete.

With that thinking we-d have to change goalie every year because if they were that good they'd get paid a lot after that season.

 

[ThorntonFightClub*]

Difference is, you take from where you a strongest and remove there. He should have traded Kelly and Bartowski. Boychuk probably would have got 5 here, and honestly his play would have deserved it.

Problem is is identifying who is earning thier contract and who isnt which is the toughest part for any GM.

At the time it was thought to be a strength.

They were assuming Seids coming back and rounding into pre injury form.

I think it looks worse with Chara, Miller, Dougie and McQuaid all missing time.

 

[SPV]

I think the B's will have to move David Krejci. They can get Soderberg for likely half what Krejci costs and roll with Bergeron-Soda-Spooner-Talbot, with Koko on the short bus for injury issues. Figure they will dump Kelly too, as 3 million for a 4th line center is a luxury.

That should leave plenty of money for re-signings and upgrades in other areas.

 

[ODAAT]

Hawks are going to be seriously regretting the Toews and Kane raises. They have 7 forwards and 3 defense men currently under contract and are already at 63 million. Crawford is also making 6 millon to ride the bench for Scott Darling.

some cashola being spent on goalies sitting on the bench

Anderson in Ottawa

Crawford as you mentioned

Howard in Detroit

 

[ODAAT]

Realistically, they should get rid of Crawford at the end of the season and have Darling as starting goalie and keep Raanta as backup, best way to move money out from that team in my opinion, not that I care cos I'd rather have Raanta here but if they're smart thats what they should do. Else they might be losing Sharp/Seabrook etc, id say they'd rather keep those and lose Crawford.

6 million for another 5 years I believe, that ain`t gonna be easy for them

 

[ODAAT]

Talbot has a Cap hit of 750k for next year. Pretty good Cap hit for a veteran 4th liner/13th F.

Yep

the exact kind of contract you DON`T move

 

[EverettMike]

Yep

the exact kind of contract you DON`T move

Minus the part where he was generally terrible here.

 

[Beaviz81]

Hawks are going to be seriously regretting the Toews and Kane raises. They have 7 forwards and 3 defense men currently under contract and are already at 63 million. Crawford is also making 6 millon to ride the bench for Scott Darling.

And ain't they looking at some serious cap-money locked away because they beat the cap this season? Seriously they are gonna suck next season as they can't add anything but AHL-scrubs to their roster.

 

[wintersej]

Hawks have players they can move. Not sure what their prospect pipeline looks like but they will have to start bringing them up to fit the Toews and Kane salaries under the cap. I agree Crawford is likely gone-moving him clears a decent amount of space.

Bruins problems are that the contracts they most need to move might not find takers. I think one of Looch or Krejci might be on the trade market for cap relief in Boston (I know Mrejci has some type of NTC but does Looch?).

Would like to see them move Smith and Kelly and maybe Seids.

I think you are too rosey on the Hawks situation.

Sharp - 6 million until 2017-18 more. Gregory Campbell had more even strength goals than Sharp did this year.

Crawford - The line for the 30 year old Chris Osgood clone making a million less than Rask until 2020-21? I'm sure it will be long.

Bickell - 4 million for 28 points. You know who else had 28 points? Chris Kelly. Kelly is gone after coming season. Bickell isn't a UFA until 2017-2018.

 

[ODAAT]

Minus the part where he was generally terrible here.

well there`s that Mike

I probably should have said the same but those $$ are ultimately where I`d be more comfortable having the 4th liners at

 

[ODAAT]

I think you are too rosey on the Hawks situation.

Sharp - 6 million until 2017-18 more. Gregory Campbell had more even strength goals than Sharp did this year.

Crawford - The line for the 30 year old Chris Osgood clone making a million less than Rask until 2020-21? I'm sure it will be long.

Bickell - 4 million for 28 points. You know who else had 28 points? Chris Kelly. Kelly is gone after coming season. Bickell isn't a UFA until 2017-2018.

Hawks are in hot water

 

[VanIsle]

Let the mediocre years begin, sad to see really, but I guess in the long run it had to happen which is too bad because it didn't with a competent head office.

 

[VanIsle]

Hawks are in hot water

Must suck to be them

 

[Therick67]

Some much for the 'Cup window' where this team was going to win multiple championships...