Proposal: Trouba Mega thread Part V

[mondo3]

What is the point of internet fans making trade proposals? You can pump up the value of your team's assets and denigrate another team's assets all you want but it has zero bearing on the actual trade.

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It's to help/influence the 30 GMs who are reading this thread to get trade ideas

 

[zsam]

How about Gardiner+some picks for Trouba?

That is interesting... I haven't seen Gardiner+ offered for Trouba before

 

[Curufinwe]

Good question.

It's fun to be ahead of things, and you can actually get a better understanding of the value of players around the league from these threads by sorting thru the chaff.

For example, Luke Schenn going to the Kings seemed like an obvious move for months before it actually happened, and I posted about it. I had to deal with trolls who claimed he had no value and would be out of the league after the 15-16 season, but it was worth it when he ended up in LA.

 

[aufheben]

What is the point of internet fans making trade proposals?

People enjoy it?

 

[Hunter368]

Would think it would've to be Gardiner+Kapanen for Trouba more then likely.

That is one I would likely do as a Jets fan

 

[Hunter368]

Lots of time for deal before Trouba loses season, agent says


Overhardt said Monday that if nothing happens before Dec. 1, there’s "obviously a plan in place."

"We have to contemplate everything, but it’s not something we are going to discuss as it involves our client and it’s a private matter," he said, adding he'd spoken with Jets general manager Kevin Cheveldayoff earlier in the day. "Any of the conversations we have with (the Jets) are very amicable and those are private, too."

Overhardt said Trouba, who is training privately at home in Michigan, won't be saying anything publicly until after the situation is resolved.

"He’s just trying to be a pro and he wants to stay out of the media," Overhardt said.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...397485031.html

 

[CaptainChef]

That is one I would likely do as a Jets fan

And I would not. Since when has Gardiner got that good that he would be the main piece coming back in a trade like that. A couple years ago he was in just about every second trade offer from the Tor fans. Sure he has good possession stats & all that, but there's no way he's 75% of the player Trouba is or will be.

Perhaps if there was a promising LHD prospect included, I could be swayed. But we have no need for a forward like Kapannen - dime a dozen in our organization.

 

[TML1967]

That is one I would likely do as a Jets fan

As a Leafs fan this would completely depend on what kind of deal Trouba is willing to take right now. If its matching Reilly than I do it. If its for anything north of 5.5 im getting hesitant as I think Nylander Marner Matthews will all be expensive and we will need to have our D locked up on long cap friendly contracts.

One thing that would entice me is if we could include Polak for a late pick for cap reasons, also gives the Jets another RHD who has been decent over the last two years.

 

[scan15*]

And I would not. Since when has Gardiner got that good that he would be the main piece coming back in a trade like that. A couple years ago he was in just about every second trade offer from the Tor fans. Sure he has good possession stats & all that, but there's no way he's 75% of the player Trouba is or will be.

Perhaps if there was a promising LHD prospect included, I could be swayed. But we have no need for a forward like Kapannen - dime a dozen in our organization.

Quite typical response.

Showing ignorance of an other team's established player. Check.

Calling a 20 year old 1st round pick with potential as 'dime a dozen'. Check.

 

[Gotaf7]

Lots of time for deal before Trouba loses season, agent says


Overhardt said Monday that if nothing happens before Dec. 1, there’s "obviously a plan in place."

"We have to contemplate everything, but it’s not something we are going to discuss as it involves our client and it’s a private matter," he said, adding he'd spoken with Jets general manager Kevin Cheveldayoff earlier in the day. "Any of the conversations we have with (the Jets) are very amicable and those are private, too."

Overhardt said Trouba, who is training privately at home in Michigan, won't be saying anything publicly until after the situation is resolved.

"He’s just trying to be a pro and he wants to stay out of the media," Overhardt said.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...397485031.html

"Obviously there's a plan in place" does that sound like a guy willing to sit out the season? First cracks showing!

 

[McDLT]

That is one I would likely do as a Jets fan

Me too. I like that trade a lot.

 

[Hunter368]

And I would not. Since when has Gardiner got that good that he would be the main piece coming back in a trade like that. A couple years ago he was in just about every second trade offer from the Tor fans. Sure he has good possession stats & all that, but there's no way he's 75% of the player Trouba is or will be.

Perhaps if there was a promising LHD prospect included, I could be swayed. But we have no need for a forward like Kapannen - dime a dozen in our organization.

Gardiner significantly improved with proper coaching. He's a solid top 4 now, potentially more as he continues to develop.

Kap - While I a knowledge a lhd prospect is more attractive for us, Kap isn't a dime a dozen prospect. He prospects to be a very smart 2/3rd liner. But as I stated I would prefer a lhd prospect instead but that doesn't mean Kap is crap prospect.

 

[fmrdh]

Ryan Murray for Jacob Trouba

Then Dubinsky+Savard for RNH+Fayne

Jenner-RNH-Atkinson
Saad-Wennberg-Foligno
Hartnell-Karlsson-Bjorkstrand
Calvert-Gagner-Anderson
Sedlak

Werenski-Jones
Johnson-Trouba
Goloubef-Fayne
Harrington/Prout

The Jackets can afford losing Murray if it means a 1C (RNH) is coming back and an upgrade (Trouba) over Savard at RHD is coming back as well. They are stacked at LD in their prospect pipeline (Carlsson, Nutivaara, Heatherington, Peeke), and a future center depth of RNH-Dubois-Wennberg is quite solid.

I think the Jets would be interested in something around Murray and Trouba.

 

[Hunter368]

"Obviously there's a plan in place" does that sound like a guy willing to sit out the season? First cracks showing!

Yup. Plan B is come back to the Jets and beg for a contract.

 

[Hunter368]

I think the Jets would be interested in something around Murray and Trouba.

Agreed

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Would think it would've to be Gardiner+Kapanen for Trouba more then likely.

IF our scouts are high on Trouba's #1D potential, I wouldn't hate this. Much rather we get a little something though.

For example, if our scouts are high on Armia...

Gardiner + Leivo + (Kapanen)
for
Trouba + Armia

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Me too. I like that trade a lot.

I could get behind Trouba 4 Gardiner and Kap, just unsure if the prospect aspect fits Jets needs; He's a talented guy no doubt. Pairing Rielly with Trouba potentially is very appealing obviously.

 

[Rebels57]

I really can't wait to come to the Trade board and not see Troubas name.

 

[SEALBound]

Ryan Murray for Jacob Trouba

Then Dubinsky+Savard for RNH+Fayne

Jenner-RNH-Atkinson
Saad-Wennberg-Foligno
Hartnell-Karlsson-Bjorkstrand
Calvert-Gagner-Anderson
Sedlak

Werenski-Jones
Johnson-Trouba
Goloubef-Fayne
Harrington/Prout

The Jackets can afford losing Murray if it means a 1C (RNH) is coming back and an upgrade (Trouba) over Savard at RHD is coming back as well. They are stacked at LD in their prospect pipeline (Carlsson, Nutivaara, Heatherington, Peeke), and a future center depth of RNH-Dubois-Wennberg is quite solid.

Neutral fan. This actually isn't terrible.

 

[CaptainChef]

Gardiner significantly improved with proper coaching. He's a solid top 4 now, potentially more as he continues to develop.

Kap - While I a knowledge a lhd prospect is more attractive for us, Kap isn't a dime a dozen prospect. He prospects to be a very smart 2/3rd liner. But as I stated I would prefer a lhd prospect instead but that doesn't mean Kap is crap prospect.

Never said he was a crap prospect, just that we have absolutely positively no need for another winger prospect.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Neutral fan. This actually isn't terrible.

Columbus becomes very soft down the middle. Lacking size, strength and grit. Whether that is a big deal or not depends who you ask.

 

[Hunter368]

Never said he was a crap prospect, just that we have absolutely positively no need for another winger prospect.

Agreed, no need for more forward prospects. Ideally needs to be a lhd prospect with Gardiner

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Never said he was a crap prospect, just that we have absolutely positively no need for another winger prospect.

He's a few years away from waiver eligibility. You'd have lots of tme to figure out whether or not you needed him, or what to trade him for.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Agreed, no need for more forward prospects. Ideally needs to be a lhd prospect with Gardiner

Leafs probably won't move Nielsen or Dermott at this time. Loov and Valiev would be available, but maybe not what you're looking for.

 

[Hunter368]

Leafs probably won't move Nielsen or Dermott at this time. Loov and Valiev would be available, but maybe not what you're looking for.

Likely the plus (even if we need to add to it or exchange it with another piece) with Gardiner would be something we could convert into a LHD prospect from another team.