Speculation: Troll Thread: Cube wants to play a few more years

[Kriss E]

am i the only one who thinks that the flaws in his play are overblown by the drama brigade here?

Not sure. The guy is barely a NHLer at this point, he's a 7-8th Dman, so anybody criticizing him as every right to do so. If he didn't suck or have flaws, he wouldn't be a regular scratch.

 

[habs03]

Well he didn't play one game in the POs and got dressed for 9 during the year. He was their 8th D for most of that year.

I fully agree, if we're in mediocrity it'll be because of our crap regulars, not a 7th.

However, I don't see the point in having Bouillon around. Might as well get a specialist.

I think the Kings carried 7dmen all year and 14F all year, I think when they traded Jack Johnson and called up Martinez to be the 6th dmen, and DD44 stayed the 7th.

Like I said if Bergevin and MT like the 8Dmen 13F model I have no issue with Bouillon being the 8th dmen.

Of course guys like Pateryn would be better, but do you really want to have a young guy sitting in the pressbox game in game out.

I, like a lot didn't like that Bouillon was playing a lot last year, but I think since we had have had everyone healthy, Therrien has made Bouillon simply the extra dmen game in game out.

You said you would like a specialist, sure, but what do you mean, like a MAB?

For me Bouillon seems like a good teamate, and low maintance guy, and seems to accept that he is a depth guy. If Bergvin wants to keep him as the 8t dmen for cheap, I won't complain.

One thing I like about this managment team is that they won't keep young guys in the pressbox, last year when Tinordi, Beaulieu, got called up, they played.

So even if Bouillon and DD44 are the 7th and 8th dmen, and one of the top 6 dmen gets hurt, I have faith that if a young dmen is playing well in Hamilton, they will call him up and slot him in that role and keep Bouillon and DD44 as the 7th and 8th guy.

 

[Maliki2]

fire therrien asap
http://www.lapresse.ca/sports/hocke...-voudrait-jouer-encore-une-couple-dannees.php

Oh god no no no no!

 

[Kriss E]

I think the Kings carried 7dmen all year and 14F all year, I think when they traded Jack Johnson and called up Martinez to be the 6th dmen, and DD44 stayed the 7th.

Like I said if Bergevin and MT like the 8Dmen 13F model I have no issue with Bouillon being the 8th dmen.

Of course guys like Pateryn would be better, but do you really want to have a young guy sitting in the pressbox game in game out.

I, like a lot didn't like that Bouillon was playing a lot last year, but I think since we had have had everyone healthy, Therrien has made Bouillon simply the extra dmen game in game out.

You said you would like a specialist, sure, but what do you mean, like a MAB?

For me Bouillon seems like a good teamate, and low maintance guy, and seems to accept that he is a depth guy. If Bergvin wants to keep him as the 8t dmen for cheap, I won't complain.

One thing I like about this managment team is that they won't keep young guys in the pressbox, last year when Tinordi, Beaulieu, got called up, they played.

So even if Bouillon and DD44 are the 7th and 8th dmen, and one of the top 6 dmen gets hurt, I have faith that if a young dmen is playing well in Hamilton, they will call him up and slot him in that role and keep Bouillon and DD44 as the 7th and 8th guy.

We already have Drew signed for next year. We don't need Bouillon.

 

[Analyzer*]

I wonder what he'll do once no one offers him a contract except for TVASports.

 

[CaptainBenn]

well you gotta applaud the guy, hes 38 and everytime he is benched hes sad and wants to play, you can see he really loves the game

however most of us don't really wanna see him play a ''couple'' more years here..

 

[capebretoncanadien]

Cube is done. He doesn't seem to be losing his physical tools but he seems to be losing his mind. He can still throw a hit, handle the puck and skate well....but to my observation he makes bad read after bad read. Thanks for everything buddy you are a little warrior I hope we can find you a nice cushy spot in the pressbox/in scouting/lower management.

 

[habs03]

We already have Drew signed for next year. We don't need Bouillon.

I've said in almost every post that under Bergevin they have gone with 8dmen 13F, unless they go to a 14F 7D next year, there will be another depth dmen along with DD44, highly unlikely they are going to keep a young guy in the NHL just to sit in the pressbox game in game out...

 

[kassian]

Please no. This guy's done.

Just thinking about having Bouillon on the PP for who knows how many more years gives me a discomforting feeling inside.

 

[MXD]

I'd rather not have him as a 7th or 8th guy.

I mean, if he still wants to play, he'd be a pretty decent player-coach in Hamilton.

In fact, I have NO problem with him. But I have a problem with the fact that Therrien WILL play him more like a 6th D than like an 8th D.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The mere fact that we're scared about this being a possibility speaks volumes about our current management's past decisions.

 

[NobleSix]

No.

No Bouillion and no Gionta. Those two shouldn't be re-signed, they should be resigned to the fact they will be looking for work elsewhere.

 

[Agnostic]

The mere fact that we're scared about this being a possibility speaks volumes about our current management's past decisions.

Or just paranoia from hypercritical people who haven't got a clue about managing a hockey club.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Or just paranoia from hypercritical people who haven't got a clue about managing a hockey club.

When your GM signs Murray, Briere and Parros in the offseason it ain't paranoia. It's cause for concern.

 

[Agnostic]

When your GM signs Murray, Briere and Parros in the offseason it ain't paranoia. It's cause for concern.

The longest is 2 years in length, that's the exact type of filler contracts you want to have in place. If you don't have faith in Bergevin that's your problem not his.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The longest is 2 years in length, that's the exact type of filler contracts you want to have in place. If you don't have faith in Bergevin that's your problem not his.

Who gives a crap? Why sign them in the first place? Dumb moves. Absolutely zero reason to sign Briere.

As for me having faith in Bergevin, I'm still in wait and see mode. His past moves have been less than impressive though.

 

[Bloumeister]

Franky the Cube to the American Olympic team in 2018
(do I really have to post this with a sarcasm smiley?)

 

[Agnostic]

Who gives a crap? Why sign them in the first place? Dumb moves. Absolutely zero reason to sign Briere.

As for me having faith in Bergevin, I'm still in wait and see mode. His past moves have been less than impressive though.

We are talking a 13th forward and a bottom pairing defenseman, plus a 2 year deal to a fading scorer. There is nothing there that's of enough impact to be "unimpressive".

Bergevin has got the big picture right, he's got the team on the right path.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We are talking a 13th forward and a bottom pairing defenseman, plus a 2 year deal to a fading scorer. There is nothing there that's of enough impact to be "unimpressive".

We are talking about 4 million in capspace that he wasted to make the team smaller. We're talking about the worst statistical blueliner in the league and one of the league's worst forwards.

You seem to be saying that he didn't ruin us... well okay, but his job is to make the team better. He didn't. He made us worse. Those moves were stupid. He only hooped us for two years - that's a pretty low bar to set. We're sitting here saying "it could've been worse" instead of talking about what a great job he did.

Bergevin has got the big picture right, he's got the team on the right path.

I think he's done some good things. Waite, Prust, didn't give up the farm for Vinny or Clowe... good stuff. But so far it hasn't been great man. Even if I were to say that he's improved the culture of the team (debatable) what's this guy really done positively? I don't see it. He made draft picks. So does every other GM in the league.

I'm hopeful that we do something this offseason. But he hasn't done much of anything to warrant praise and had a pretty disastrous offseason. Still, it's early days and he's a rookie GM. So I'll wait and see. He gets a mulligan on last year from me but he has to start making some moves that actually improve our club.

 

[BaseballCoach]

When your GM signs Murray, Briere and Parros in the offseason it ain't paranoia. It's cause for concern.

Murray was fine for one year. Parros was not necessary, but tell that to the fanbase. However, Briere's contract was worse than idiotic, it is enough on its own to question a GM's fitness for the job.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Murray was fine for one year. Parros was not necessary, but tell that to the fanbase. However, Briere's contract was worse than idiotic, it is enough on its own to question a GM's fitness for the job.

It really is. Diametrically opposed to what we needed and worse - what MB SAID we needed. So why did we get him?

THAT move more than anything is the one that has fueled the skepticism.

 

[Runner77]

When your GM signs Murray, Briere and Parros in the offseason it ain't paranoia. It's cause for concern.

Not that it matters much, but Parros was obtained in a trade.

Agreed with the gyst of your comment -- the good news is that Brière might still be tradeable and there is no next year on the books for the others. These moves may have been more a reflection of the gutter available to MB at the time and what his staff perceived as transitory plugs until the next wave of homegrown assets is deemed ready for regular NHL minutes.

I think DD on a 4-year deal and getting used as first liner, is a far graver concern, particularly if it means that more deserving or more talented players who are ready, are getting a pushdown. But hey, Cube wants to keep playing -- how about we try and make that 4-year deal look even worse by adding more low-celing shrimpitude to complement DD.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Not that it matters much, but Parros was obtained in a trade.

Agreed with the gyst of your comment -- the good news is that Brière might still be tradeable and there is no next year on the books for the others. These moves may have been more a reflection of the gutter available to MB at the time and what his staff perceived as transitory plugs until the next wave of homegrown assets is deemed ready for regular NHL minutes.

I think DD on a 4-year deal and getting used as first liner, is a far graver concern, particularly if it means that more deserving or more talented players who are ready, are getting a pushdown. But hey, Cube wants to keep playing -- how about we try and make that 4-year deal look even worse by adding more low-celing shrimpitude to complement DD.

There's that, there's MT as coach, there's the Subban contract situation, signing Emelin before seeing how he would play on that knee... At the very least ALL of the above is questionable. Normally I'd just dismiss a report on Bouillion wanting to come back but...

 

[Runner77]

There's that, there's MT as coach, there's the Subban contract situation, signing Emelin before seeing how he would play on that knee... At the very least ALL of the above is questionable. Normally I'd just dismiss a report on Bouillion wanting to come back but...

I'm not a fan of MT, but he's almost at the end of his run. His track record and the type of coach he is, only means he'll take himself out soon enough.

As far as Subban goes, chalk up MB's bravado to inexperience to some extent. The money commitment and negotiating approach may have seen some ownership seepage, so not sure it's all on MB. Plus, there is still time to sign PK -- there is a two-year window to trade him. We all know there won't be a hostile offer, nor will there be one that the Habs won't match.

Emelin's situation left MB with little reaction time. How long should he have waited on a pending UFA, whose physical game is in short supply on this team? The fact that Emelin underwent reconstructive surgery for both the ACL and MCL in his left knee is definitely a concern, but you have to figure MB had the medical assessments of the best in the business before he made the offer. I would be inclined to think that they were probably expecting Emelin at less than 100% upon his return and probably over most of this year. It smells of a calculated risk, but they certainly didn't go into this not knowing.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I'm not a fan of MT, but he's almost at the end of his run. His track record and the type of coach he is, only means he'll take himself out soon enough.

As far as Subban goes, chalk up MB's bravado to inexperience to some extent. The money commitment and negotiating approach may have seen some ownership seepage, so not sure it's all on MB. Plus, there is still time to sign PK -- there is a two-year window to trade him. We all know there won't be a hostile offer, nor will there be one that the Habs won't match.

Emelin's situation left MB with little reaction time. How long should he have waited on a pending UFA, whose physical game is in short supply on this team? The fact that Emelin underwent reconstructive surgery for both the ACL and MCL in his left knee is definitely a concern, but you have to figure MB had the medical assessments of the best in the business before he made the offer. I would be inclined to think that they were probably expecting Emelin at less than 100% upon his return and probably over most of this year. It smells of a calculated risk, but probably they certainly didn't go into this not knowing.

We could debate every one of those moves... Like I said, his past performance doesn't look great. He's learning the ropes on the job and that doesn't bode well for us.

Again, cautiously optimistic that we'll see improvements going forward but he's got to start making net positive moves rather than bad or questionable ones. Turning down big overpriced FAs with bad contracts is great, but he's got to do more than that for us to win. Let's see what happens with Bouillion... if he re-signs him, then that's scary.