Player Discussion Trent Frederic II

[GordonHowe]

I think it’s safe to say that we haven’t had a player gain cult favorite status so quickly since PJ Stock

Milan.

 

[GoBs]

Gryz is only a top 4 Dman in Boston. Nowhere else would he be so highly over rated. Great 5-6 guy 12-14 minutes......Top 4....Sorry.

You are right so overrated on this board

 

[BruinDust]

Milan.

Lucic was basically a legend by the time he and the Bruins got back from that early season Western road swing. Has that Gordie Howe hat trick out in LA and the legend was born.

 

[GordonHowe]

Lucic was basically a legend by the time he and the Bruins got back from that early season Western road swing. Has that Gordie Howe hat trick out in LA and the legend was born.

BTW, I've seen Lucic fight to a draw. I have never seen him lose outright. Did he?

He would beat Tom Wilson to a pulp; destroy him. I don't believe Wilson is that good a fighter, from what I've seen. Frederick handled him pretty well, for example.

Milan was crazy, and crazy strong. Again, he would just destroy opponents.

And, go to Youtube to check out his many, many devastating hits,

 

[BruinDust]

Maybe I missed the "hitting everything" period - he's always seemed to me to be more defensively responsible guy than a forecheck disruptor. Don't think I've seen him lay a borderline hit all year, but I have seen Cassidy roll him out there pretty regularly against Crosby and Ovechkin.

Part of the problem IMO is he wasn't developed as a winger but as a center. So he's used to being the 3rd man high more often, surveying the situation, better able to pace himself, etc.

Then he gets to the big club, gets put on LW, has a few fights and everyone thinks he should be some sort of forechecking demon hustling all shift long being first man in on the forecheck. Meanwhile that's not the role he's been playing at the pro level up until this season apparently.

I like Frederic, his offense is and will likely be limited. But I still think he can be of plenty value as a big, strong defensively responsible center that can score and fight in spurts that floats between Line 3 and 4.

Really for next season they will likely let Kuraly go and I see Frederic taking his spot in the middle.

 

[BruinDust]

BTW, I've seen Lucic fight to a draw. I have never seen him lose outright. Did he?

He would beat Tom Wilson to a pulp; destroy him. I don't believe Wilson is that good a fighter, from what I've seen. Frederick handled him pretty well, for example.

Milan was crazy, and crazy strong. Again, he would just destroy opponents.

And, go to Youtube to check out his many, many devastating hits,

One of my all-time favorites. The way he hit, fought, scored and entertained, I thought he'd be a Bruin forever.

I was present for his first pro fight in the pre-season against the Islanders in the fall of 2007. Happened about 15 feet away from where I was seated. You could see he was itching for a scrap all game but didn't find any takers. Pretty much at the end of the game he grabs an Islander (Matthew Spiller) and just starts pounding him, almost like he wasn't allowing that game to end without him getting in a scrap. I don't think Spiller knew what was going on, just this big monster of a kid grabbing him and chucking knuckles.

 

[Troublesome 85]

Lucic lost to Orr, Prout and Vandermeer off the top of my head. Still tied for my all time favorite behind Thomas

My first Bs game was when he checked dude thru the glass

 

[Troublesome 85]

I dont think Wilson would go near Looch. An Angry Looch is scary but a Looch whos ready to fight is scary too. Hes around the same size as Wilson, strong and a boxer. Dont think Wilson will ever fight Looch

 

[BruinDust]

I dont think Wilson would go near Looch. An Angry Looch is scary but a Looch whos ready to fight is scary too. Hes around the same size as Wilson, strong and a boxer. Dont think Wilson will ever fight Looch

I don't know, Wilson is pretty dumb. And fighting Lucic. That's dumb.

 

[GordonHowe]

One of my all-time favorites. The way he hit, fought, scored and entertained, I thought he'd be a Bruin forever.

I was present for his first pro fight in the pre-season against the Islanders in the fall of 2007. Happened about 15 feet away from where I was seated. You could see he was itching for a scrap all game but didn't find any takers. Pretty much at the end of the game he grabs an Islander (Matthew Spiller) and just starts pounding him, almost like he wasn't allowing that game to end without him getting in a scrap. I don't think Spiller knew what was going on, just this big monster of a kid grabbing him and chucking knuckles.

I give Chris Neil of the Senators great credit for sticking with it when Lucic basically beat him senseless in that pre season game years ago (sic).

I also give Gabriel Landeskog great credit as a rookie, I believe, for not backing down when Milan sought to intimidate him.

These are the hits, as opposed to the fights,

 

[Troublesome 85]

I don't know, Wilson is pretty dumb. And fighting Lucic. That's dumb.

Eh if my memory serves me he hardly fights anyone legit. Off the top of my mind he fought McQuaid and Reaves and has lost.

Reaves is someone I would LOVE on the Bruins but cant see VGK letting him go. I pass by like 2 water billboards out here on the way home with him on them. Hes beloved out here and the only VGK player shirt I own

 

[Root]

I dont think Wilson would go near Looch. An Angry Looch is scary but a Looch whos ready to fight is scary too. Hes around the same size as Wilson, strong and a boxer. Dont think Wilson will ever fight Looch

He wont. Lucic would destroy him. Lucic would be the toughest guy Wilson has ever fought. Wilson wouldn’t make Lucic’s top 20.

 

[CDJ]

One of my all-time favorites. The way he hit, fought, scored and entertained, I thought he'd be a Bruin forever.

I was present for his first pro fight in the pre-season against the Islanders in the fall of 2007. Happened about 15 feet away from where I was seated. You could see he was itching for a scrap all game but didn't find any takers. Pretty much at the end of the game he grabs an Islander (Matthew Spiller) and just starts pounding him, almost like he wasn't allowing that game to end without him getting in a scrap. I don't think Spiller knew what was going on, just this big monster of a kid grabbing him and chucking knuckles.

I remember him pretty much immediately fighting Tarnasky (iirc) and being in love

mike komisarek really got bullied out of the nhl by that man

 

[Kegs]

How did the Fredric thread become a lucic appreciation thread? :p Wilson won’t fight lucic ever. Wilson doesn’t like fighting. He likes taking violent runs at top line players.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I give Chris Neil of the Senators great credit for sticking with it when Lucic basically beat him senseless in that pre season game years ago (sic).

I also give Gabriel Landeskog great credit as a rookie, I believe, for not backing down when Milan sought to intimidate him.

These are the hits, as opposed to the fights,

Landeskog literally backed down from Lucic. It was cringeworthy.

 

[duffy]

How did the Fredric thread become a lucic appreciation thread? :p Wilson won’t fight lucic ever. Wilson doesn’t like fighting. He likes taking violent runs at top line players.

Blind siding or hitting those players from behind is Wilson's MO! The league does nothing to curb it. He will get cheap shotted for his antics or hell end someone's carrier before anything gets done! The Rangers were correct in pushing for Parros to be removed! That clown was a knuckle dragger in the league so it's hard for him to see fault in any dirty play!

 

[LSCII]

On topic, Frederic is a clown player and it’s embarrassing to have him on the roster...

 

[GordonHowe]

Landeskog literally backed down from Lucic. It was cringeworthy.

No. Think about it. They were near the goal.Lucic tried to intimidate GL, and the latter took it, and didn't respond. He wasn't intimadated, ultimately, though I'm sure he was scared.

 

[sarge88]

I remember him pretty much immediately fighting Tarnasky (iirc) and being in love

mike komisarek really got bullied out of the nhl by that man

Sometimes you give credit to guys for standing up and going toe to toe with a guy as tough as Lucic.

I give Komisarek that credit the first time.

Every other time I chalk it up to him being among the 20 dumbest human beings ever to play in the NHL.

He was a terrible fighter who literally was too dumb to even protect himself.

 

[UncleRico]

Come on, it can't be that Frederic hit a wall and that he's adjusting to the NHL?

You view EVERYTHING through the "pacifist/small weak player" lens. It doesn't always apply.

Did Cassidy tell Miller and McAvoy to hit less? Did he tell Ritchie to stop fighting? It seems personal, and if you're determined to hate Cassidy, have at it I guess.

Just so I'm clear: I love when Frederic plays physical and is a disrupter. I think it helps the team a lot, and my guess is Bruce sees value in it as well.

Idk how much value he saw in Frederic to be honest. Looks like he seriously fell out of favor with Cassidy. Big takeaway was that in the last game he was playing with two providence players and not the few 3rd/4th liners that were actually still in the lineup.

Might need him in the Washington series, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see him for a couple games or until things start getting chippy.

 

[The National]

Eh if my memory serves me he hardly fights anyone legit. Off the top of my mind he fought McQuaid and Reaves and has lost.

Reaves is someone I would LOVE on the Bruins but cant see VGK letting him go. I pass by like 2 water billboards out here on the way home with him on them. Hes beloved out here and the only VGK player shirt I own

Some great visual effects in those commercials lol.

I like Reaves a lot too, I’d love him as a Bruin. I don’t really care that he’s not a great player, he’s good enough for the physicality he brings.

After the situation with Wilson and Rangers their will be some teams looking for tougher guys that can also somewhat pull their own weight on the other side of puck.

He’s a UFA after next year, if his legs stay good and he hits the open market I would bring him in for a couple years if we’re looking for toughness.

 

[Kegs]

On topic, Frederic is a clown player and it’s embarrassing to have him on the roster...

To be fair he isn’t on the starting roster.

 

[inactive user]

Some great visual effects in those commercials lol.

I like Reaves a lot too, I’d love him as a Bruin. I don’t really care that he’s not a great player, he’s good enough for the physicality he brings.

After the situation with Wilson and Rangers their will be some teams looking for tougher guys that can also somewhat pull their own weight on the other side of puck.

He’s a UFA after next year, if his legs stay good and he hits the open market I would bring him in for a couple years if we’re looking for toughness.

My favourite Reaves moment.

 

[The National]

My favourite Reaves moment.

Reaves is in Wilson’s head for sure.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

This (post McQuaid) Bruins team was scared of Wilson for years and then Freddy challenged him over and over and made him look mortal.