Player Discussion Trent Frederic II

[UncleRico]

Or maybe it's something as simple as a combination of his own improved play, confidence and support from the coaching staff, and Hall on the other wing.

I will say Frederic's game hasn't really changed that much all year, the pts are just coming now. He might not be driving play but he is real complimentary piece on that line and only taking up 8% of its cap space.

So you don’t think it’s a coincidence about 50% of his points this year have come in a 5 game stretch with Hall?

 

[Over the volcano]

So you don’t think it’s a coincidence about 50% of his points this year have come in a 5 game stretch with Hall?

You're still beating that old drum. . .

 

[ODAAT]

what I`ve appreciated more is it appears he has stopped all the post whistle BS. I get it, guys trash talk all the time to try and get under the skin of an opponent but it wasn`t working for him IMO. He seems to be playing with much more focus on where he needs to be on the ice. Far quicker to read a play or attack the D when they go back to retrieve it.

Obviously having a guy like Hall on that line helps a ton but Freddy hasn`t been taking those stupid penalties as much either. I`ve been hard on the kid, hell I`ve driven him to the airport a number of times but like his game so far, much more consistent and not saying that simply because he`s producing a bit offensively. He is far more noticeable this year but in a good way

 

[duffy]

Or maybe it's something as simple as a combination of his own improved play, confidence and support from the coaching staff, and Hall on the other wing.

I will say Frederic's game hasn't really changed that much all year, the pts are just coming now. He might not be driving play but he is real complimentary piece on that line and only taking up 8% of its cap space.

Agree with the talent and linemate assessment but I think you meant .8%. 8% would have him making about 6+ million. I really like this player and if buying a jersey it would be a Freddy but not at 6+ million, not yet anyway.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Agree with the talent and linemate assessment but I think you meant .8%. 8% would have him making about 6+ million. I really like this player and if buying a jersey it would be a Freddy but not at 6+ million, not yet anyway.

I think he meant on that line specifically, not overall team.

 

[Over the volcano]

Agree with the talent and linemate assessment but I think you meant .8%. 8% would have him making about 6+ million. I really like this player and if buying a jersey it would be a Freddy but not at 6+ million, not yet anyway.

Meant he is making 8% of what his line costs against the cap. Hall 6 Coyle 5.25 Frederic 1ish

Yup Bruinswillwin77's got it

 

[bb74]

IMO if Chia were referring to him, he would classify TF as:

"A long guy, good length, big body, lanky and still growing into himself, good skater and plays a heavy game. " One of those comments where it's not what "is" said, but instead, what isn't said.

For me (and mgmt IMO) It'll be interesting to see how he develops this year on the 3rd line with trust and confidence of the coaching and a long leash. I'm seeing a guy that has those Chia attributes, but is still slow (not F/D but let's say C level) to process the play. Get's to the net but with head down as opposed to head up so a really binary N-S game that isn't creative but it can be coached. Controlling the chippy stuff and good on the boards for puck protection and simple plays. Overall what you would want for a 4th line tweener. To become a legit middle 6 guy, needs to grow into reading /driving plays more and at least for me, go to the net edge heads up - going in heads up is a massive driver for production down low and JM can teach that and make this kid a 20/20 guy down low for the next 7-10 years if he get's it right.

 

[Over the volcano]

.... To become a legit middle 6 guy, needs to grow into reading /driving plays more and at least for me, go to the net edge heads up - going in heads up is a massive driver for production down low and JM can teach that and make this kid a 20/20 guy down low for the next 7-10 years if he get's it right.

Totally fair - should be said that his #'s in 2022 going back to last Jan 1 have him right at that pace. 48games 13 goals 13 assists (quick and maybe inaccurate math).

Think it was around then he was bumped up to 3rd line duty.

 

[bb74]

Totally fair - should be said that his #'s in 2022 going back to last Jan 1 have him right at that pace. 48games 13 goals 13 assists (quick and maybe inaccurate math).

Think it was around then he was bumped up to 3rd line duty.

Yeah. I don't think it is a stretch but I think he needs to be taught and then to listen and adapt which it seems he is willing to do. I don't forget that this is a team that has a 4 GF avg so far and the depth is a safety net for him and the bottom six as they can just roll with the offense and take advantage of playing from ahead. When that goes away and they need to play from behind he needs to build these additional skills or it will be 4th liner 5-8 G / 8-10 A player cherry picking. Like they say in business, never get too high, nor too low. He has real stuff to develop to become a bonafide 20/20 guy on any team - not there yet but can get there IMO.

 

[Raleighfern]

i've really enjoyed watching him play this year. i read an astute observation here recently that frederic has a much improved game between the blue lines and how he gets switched with coyle on d that after repeated watching is spot on. hes always been tough on the puck.he has good hands. i'm rooting for him to continue to grow into an important piece for us.

 

[ODAAT]

i've really enjoyed watching him play this year. i read an astute observation here recently that frederic has a much improved game between the blue lines and how he gets switched with coyle on d that after repeated watching is spot on. hes always been tough on the puck.he has good hands. i'm rooting for him to continue to grow into an important piece for us.

looks like his skating has improved as well, felt he was late delivering checks or on the forecheck, stride looks much stronger

 

[Over the volcano]

looks like his skating has improved as well, felt he was late delivering checks or on the forecheck, stride looks much stronger

He’s not hesitating or second guessing himself out there.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

He’s not hesitating or second guessing himself out there.

I was going to say that I feel this is key.

He's shown the ability to play well at the NHL level for some time. But now he's just playing. Not trying to find his niche, or forcing anything. Just playing.

He compliments that line so well.

 

[Bruinaura]

Heh

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

That NYR game turned his season around, as has the new coach.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Heh

holy shit i've been wrong all along

 

[bolt thrower]

Frederic is taking huge steps since being on that line with Coyle and Hall. Keep it up boy!

 

[Mad-Marcus]

That snipe, last night shows the latent talent TF has. This amplifies the single reason Cassidy had to go. Confidence in younger players was virtually nonexistent, unless they played like seasoned veterans(McAvoy).

 

[smithformeragent]

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