Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXVIII

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[Yak]

If you watch some of the top teams we are really missing more physical defense players. Our current crops and upcoming are not going to get it done.

Kelvin/ Grieg/ Boucher , other then that I see this as our weakness. Even though they lead league in hits. Is not like we are a really physically punishing team.

I think their does need to be balance between both of course. We could use some more skill but also some more physical players as well. We don't need pylons but maybe bigger players who finish their checks heavy. We don't need PD bargain bin veteran players but younger big mobile heavy checking players. That's what a 4th line should be or a 3rd pairing defense.

I don't want to be the next Toronto, Edmonton, Carolina who disappeared during physical playoff hockey!

 

[RAFI BOMB]

If you watch some of the top teams we are really missing more physical defense players. Our current crops and upcoming are not going to get it done.

Kelvin/ Grieg/ Boucher , other then that I see this as our weakness. Even though they lead league in hits. Is not like we are a really physically punishing team.

I think their does need to be balance between both of course. We could use some more skill but also some more physical players as well. We don't need pylons but maybe bigger players who finish their checks heavy. We don't need PD bargain bin veteran players but younger big mobile heavy checking players. That's what a 4th line should be or a 3rd pairing defense.

I don't want to be the next Toronto, Edmonton, Carolina who disappeared during physical playoff hockey!

Our current roster doesn't have a lot of physical players but we do have a number of prospects who display a fair amount of physicality to their games. You mentioned Kleven, Greig and Boucher which are our 3 most physical prospects but then you could also include Sanderson, Roger, Romeo and to a lesser extent Thomson on defense. Up front you could include Pinto, Sokolov, Crookshank, Ostapchuk, Lattimer, Kastelic, Reinhardt, Kelly, Novak and Engstrand. Then on top of that we will likely draft a handful of physical players in this upcoming draft.

At least up front it seems like we have a fair amount of depth. We have a number of prospects that likely aren't that far off from being serviceable bottom sixers.

We could use a bit more size and physicality of defense though. We don't have as much depth and depending on how far Kleven is off it could be a good idea to add a d man who brings a lot of physicality for the interim.

 

[Big Muddy]

If you watch some of the top teams we are really missing more physical defense players. Our current crops and upcoming are not going to get it done.

Kelvin/ Grieg/ Boucher , other then that I see this as our weakness. Even though they lead league in hits. Is not like we are a really physically punishing team.

I think their does need to be balance between both of course. We could use some more skill but also some more physical players as well. We don't need pylons but maybe bigger players who finish their checks heavy. We don't need PD bargain bin veteran players but younger big mobile heavy checking players. That's what a 4th line should be or a 3rd pairing defense.

I don't want to be the next Toronto, Edmonton, Carolina who disappeared during physical playoff hockey!

Both of those attributes are necessary of course, but I'd put the emphasis on the skill part. Of course, maybe that's because I just watched the Avalanche vs. TBL match.

I think we need a good 2nd line RW and continued development from younger players like Norris, Stutzle, etc. to get into that upper echelon of teams.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I dont understand the physicality argument. That last lineup we deployed had lots of it. What was missing was key game breaking talent.

Tkachuk, Brown, Formenton, Paul, Watson, Gambrel, Sanford are enough grit upfront. Stutzle, Batherson and Norris also have a physical side. We need a gamebreaking talent who can also handle the physical play. Not a physical guy who has some skill.

 

[Tuna99]

I dont understand the physicality argument. That last lineup we deployed had lots of it. What was missing was key game breaking talent.

Tkachuk, Brown, Formenton, Paul, Watson, Gambrel, Sanford are enough grit upfront. Stutzle, Batherson and Norris also have a physical side. We need a gamebreaking talent who can also handle the physical play. Not a physical guy who has some skill.

i do feel our biggest need is a shooter and shoot first player who can unload on the goalie and allow Tkachuk and the gang to chase after rebounds. Dany Heatley / Kovulchuk type who can get heavy pucks on net

 

[BradyTkachucky]

i do feel our biggest need is a shooter and shoot first player who can unload on the goalie and allow Tkachuk and the gang to chase after rebounds. Dany Heatley / Kovulchuk type who can get heavy pucks on net

Laine

 

[BUCKLE UP]

Laine

Boeser

 

[bert]

i do feel our biggest need is a shooter and shoot first player who can unload on the goalie and allow Tkachuk and the gang to chase after rebounds. Dany Heatley / Kovulchuk type who can get heavy pucks on net

Norris is that player on this team. He scores from the half wall, same as those guys and was pacing for 40 goals at 22 years old.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Norris is that player on this team. He scores from the half wall, same as those guys and was pacing for 40 goals at 22 years old.

Yes, he's that player on that line. We need another on the other with Stutz.

Aka Jarventie/Kemell/Slaf/C.Gauthier/Sokolov/giroux(idc).

Boeser

Made of glass.

 

[Bileur]

Boeser would be Bobby Ryan 2.0. His peak has passed already.

 

[TheNewEra]

I dont think anyone young will be available at a price that we will be willing to pay

i wonder if we could get eberle or maybe expand the deal and get eberle and larsson

 

[TonySoprano11]

Hahaha look at this doozy!

Maple Leafs’ Under-the-Radar Trade Target: Artem Zub

 

[Qward]

Hahaha look at this doozy!

Maple Leafs’ Under-the-Radar Trade Target: Artem Zub

hahahahahahahahahhaahahha no.

 

[Puikiou]

Erik Brännström + Tyler Boucher + Colin White + Nikita Zaitsev (cap) + 2022 1st round pick (top 5-10) + 2022 2nd round pick x2

To Arizona for:

Jakub Chychrun + Clayton Keller

Tkachuk - Stützle - Keller
Greig - Norris - Batherson
Formenton - Pinto - C. Brown
Paul - Kastelic - Watson/Sokolov

Chabot - Thomson
Chychrun - Zub
Sanderson - Holden
JBD

Murray
Gustavsson​

One can dream.

 

[Qward]

Can we trade Paul with the understanding that on July 1st we will sign him to a 3 year deal?
Gives him a shot at a cup now and gets that playoff experience and gives us some future assets.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Can we trade Paul with the understanding that on July 1st we will sign him to a 3 year deal?
Gives him a shot at a cup now and gets that playoff experience and gives us some future assets.

We could trade him and try to re-sign him in the offseason, but that always risks losing him to some stupid overpayment from a desperate team.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Norris is that player on this team. He scores from the half wall, same as those guys and was pacing for 40 goals at 22 years old.

It’s not a crime to have two. Especially since it’s sorely lacking when it’s not a pp and the first unit isn’t on the ice.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I don't really get this argument that this team lacks physicality or needs more. We lead the league in hits this year and lead the league in hits since 2015-2016 (approx. 500 games). We haven't fallen out of the top 3 at any point during that time. And that ignores a lot of the physicality that guys like Brady, Paul, even Sanford, Brown & Zaitsev bring, where they use their body to shield the puck, cycle, gain position, etc.

 

[Qward]

We could trade him and try to re-sign him in the offseason, but that always risks losing him to some stupid overpayment from a desperate team.

He's a UFA. Thats always going to be a risk.

Another team could call his agent and be like "Hypothetically, if you had a client that plays up and down the line up, we would be interested in talking on July 1st. We are looking for someone for 5 years. Hypothetically."

Is that tampering? yes. Does that shit happen all the time? yes.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Hahaha look at this doozy!

Maple Leafs’ Under-the-Radar Trade Target: Artem Zub

Lol, the guy's been teaching 40 years at the faculty of Education in Alberta and has a doctorate. Goes to show Leaf fans are delirious no matter how educated, loool.

 

[Hale The Villain]

He's a UFA. Thats always going to be a risk.

Another team could call his agent and be like "Hypothetically, if you had a client that plays up and down the line up, we would be interested in talking on July 1st. We are looking for someone for 5 years. Hypothetically."

Is that tampering? yes. Does that shit happen all the time? yes.

I'm sure that does happen all the time, but there's a big difference between speculating what an offer could look like in free agency months down the road and an actual concrete offer.

Paul and his agent may have a pretty good indication that he could get something like 3x3 on July 1st, but it's not known for certain until that happens.

There's a reason the rental trade + off-season re-sign rarely happens. Don't think it's realistic.

 

[Big Muddy]

Hahaha look at this doozy!

Maple Leafs’ Under-the-Radar Trade Target: Artem Zub

The one thing this article demonstrates I think is that other teams will be expressing an interest in Zub.

If you look at the posts at the bottom of the article, some are rubbish and are good for a laugh.

 

[bert]

Hahaha look at this doozy!

Maple Leafs’ Under-the-Radar Trade Target: Artem Zub

OMG Holl a 2nd and a prospect where do i sign up?!

 

[bert]

It’s not a crime to have two. Especially since it’s sorely lacking when it’s not a pp and the first unit isn’t on the ice.

Ok well its going to come at the expense of one of the good players on the team. The 2nd pp hasnt had a real chance yet.

Its going to be alot better than what they are rolling out now when they get healthy.