Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part VII: Shake Up

[Thirty One]

2015 1st, MDZ, Zuccarello for E.Kane

Winnipeg would throw up all over the place.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

2015 1st, MDZ, Zuccarello for E.Kane

No thanks. Not getting the love for E. Kane.

 

[Thirty One]

No thanks. Not getting the love for E. Kane.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

It's his 5th year and he's on pace for 40 points. He's also a winger, which, right now, is less of a need than center. Why are we giving up a huge package to get this guy again? Let's just keep adding underachieving malcontents, it'll work well this time!!

 

[Thirty One]

It's his 5th year and he's on pace for 40 points. He's also a winger, which, right now, is less of a need than center. Why are we giving up a huge package to get this guy again? Let's just keep adding underachieving malcontents, it'll work well this time!!

That's a huge package?

He's been hurt this year. These 26 games don't wipe out the previous 120 for me.

 

[beef 4 lunch]

It's his 5th year and he's on pace for 40 points. He's also a winger, which, right now, is less of a need than center. Why are we giving up a huge package to get this guy again? Let's just keep adding underachieving malcontents, it'll work well this time!!

I understand you point about him being a winger but Underachieving malcontent? Huh?

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I agree with BB. If the Rangers are putting together a significant package I would much prefer it be for a young center. Most important position when building a team, IMO.

I do like Kane. Not a knock on him.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Underachieving malcontent? Huh?

On pace for 40pts, and there have been numerous reports of him not exactly being the model teammate.

I have never been enamored with Kane. Very talented player with size and speed, I think that physical package leads people to believe he has this sky high, PPG potential when, in reality, he'll likely be a 30 goal, 60pt guy throughout his prime.

I'm not adverse to trading for Kane, but I think MDZ/Zucc/1st is a pretty big package. Also have grown reluctant to moving DZ with the Staal issues.

 

[JohnC]

Again. What are the merits to bringing Kane into the fold?

Please. Someone tell me, besides raw talent.

Have our problems not stemmed from a poor locker room these last 2 years? Lack of depth? Poor defensive playing?

Kane purportedly has a negative locker room stigma. We lose even more depth bringing him in. And he doesn't play much defense.

So... trade the farm for him and include the kids if it seals the deal? Amirite?

I'd say goal scoring has been much more of a problem than the locker room

 

[ecemleafs]

That's a huge package?

He's been hurt this year. These 26 games don't wipe out the previous 120 for me.

hes got a career high of 57 points and is on pace for less than that this year. when is he going to develop into a consistent and productive 1st line forward? hes got a caphit over 5m and hasnt played like a 5m player throughout his career.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

I'd say goal scoring has been much more of a problem than the locker room

Both are/seem to be a huge issue at this juncture.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

hes got a career high of 57 points and is on pace for less than that this year. when is he going to develop into a consistent and productive 1st line forward? hes got a caphit over 5m and hasnt played like a 5m player throughout his career.

He's also had those ticky tacky injuries every season like Cally, and he's only 22. That adds up.

 

[Thirty One]

hes got a career high of 57 points and is on pace for less than that this year. when is he going to develop into a consistent and productive 1st line forward? hes got a caphit over 5m and hasnt played like a 5m player throughout his career.

I'm not suggesting moving heaven and earth for Kane, but for that package? Come on...

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

I'm not suggesting moving heaven and earth for Kane, but for that package? Come on...

What if our first turns out to be top 5? Honest question. Seems pretty steep for him, in particular, when we could have had that top 5 pick.

 

[ecemleafs]

I'm not suggesting moving heaven and earth for Kane, but for that package? Come on...

if we are moving our 1st, del zotto, and zuccarello i want something better than an inconsistent LW with a 5m+ cap hit.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

if we are moving our 1st, del zotto, and zuccarello i want something better than an inconsistent LW with a 5m+ cap hit.

As much as I love Zucarello, the real bad part of that deal is the 1st. This year, we look like we're headed in the top 10 region, maybe worse.

Loaded draft. Can't give that away for a position we don't need.

 

[beef 4 lunch]

As much as I love Zucarello, the real bad part of that deal is the 1st. This year, we look like we're headed in the top 10 region, maybe worse.

Loaded draft. Can't give that away for a position we don't need.

Don't need? Bit of an overstatement. Left wing is very weak. Amoung the weakest in the league.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

You guys know I said our 2015 1st, right? The way it's looking right now I wouldn't move our 2014 1st for anything.

Any there's no shot in h-e- double hockey sticks that WPG takes that proposal. I can't believe some of you actually wouldn't at least consider that deal

 

[Staxgod90]

Don't need? Bit of an overstatement. Left wing is very weak. Amoung the weakest in the league.

LW is one of our better positions with Kreider, Nash and Hagelin. Although Nash can play both sides, the only other options at RW are Cally and Zucc so..

 

[Killem Dafoe]

The only players I would consider moving our 1st for are players who wouldn't be traded for our 1st.

 

[Emptyvoid]

Honestly, the rangers sucking right now might be the best thing to happen to the franchise in years. We need to be completely out of the playoffs by the deadline, so far behind that Sather has to sell. Unload the unnecessary pieces and the old core that are no longer cutting it (girardi, callahan and all other dead weight) Get a top five pick, get a god damn #1 center.

Three years from now, if this season is truly one where we suck terribly, we'll look back and say this was the start of the ship being righted.

 

[Bullseyes]

You guys know I said our 2015 1st, right? The way it's looking right now I wouldn't move our 2014 1st for anything.

Any there's no shot in h-e- double hockey sticks that WPG takes that proposal. I can't believe some of you actually wouldn't at least consider that deal

I wouldn't trade a chance (however small) at drafting McDavid.

 

[Vitto79]

So now that Boyle is a 4th line C can they move him to a team that thinks he's good. Get an energy player for him

 

[Vitto79]

No thanks. Not getting the love for E. Kane.

He scores goals. That's good when playing hockey

 

[aufheben]

That would be a steal for E. Kane. Come on, this team's not gonna suck enough to get a Top 5 pick.