I don't understand what kind of person gets his jollies from making up trade rumors. It's incredibly lame. (Referring to the tweet not those sharing it).
Speculation: Trade Rumors & Roster Building Thread: Part XXV "Gorton the new magician?"
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If this team is able to land Trouba (or any quality top 4 RHD honestly). I am not sure they will move Nash at all. I get it is only been a handful of games but if this team can sustain this type of possession and HDSC dominance for most of the season.
They can possibly make a run, in that scenario not sure they would want to trade Nash. We can hate him all we want for his lack of consistent PO production but you have to admit this team is better with him in the top9. He doesn't have to be the "THE GUY" this year.
Look what Eric Staal brought back last year... As a rental.
Nash is a better player than Staal at this juncture of their careers, he'd also have an extra year left. Assuming that he gets moved to a team in "win now" mode, I'd venture to guess that he'd return a 1st and a pretty decent prospect.
Vermette, Ladd, Weise,etc. have all netted pretty decent returns (as rental players.) You can't tell me with a straight face that Nash wouldn't bring back more than those guys did.
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Some people get a thrill out of some other people believing they have an inside of the teams trade talks. Some people may occasionally get inside information but 95% of the "inside information" I see posted online is just stuff posted other places or guess work. They play the Miss Cleo game. They see the Rangers have 24 contracts and they predict a trade. First they mention a major player but not XYZ players then a week later they say a bottom 6 guy. Basically as long as something happens eventually they have covered all their bases. I'm just surprised when people intelligent enough to turn on a computer can not spot the vagueness in some of their predictions.
Lion Hound
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All true, but eventually that's going to catch up. Plus...with the new direction, and not a lot of money going out this doesn't make so much sense.
LHD is what WPG reportedly wants. 1st rounder they would certainly want. Value is definitely there. Pricetag isn't.
if we moved him start of last season, he would have returned a 1st rounder
call me crazy, but i think one of jtmiller or kevin spicoli is gone. jimmy vesey has made that possible. suddenly, those guys can be moved.
i think brandon pirri, by way of his el-cheap contract, is staying. as far as "bang for the buck potential", he's tops (or as i like to call it "the reverse rick nash factor")
zuc is another guy who's got some exposure. with gorton preaching the getting young mantra, he's a guy who's got all the criteria for being moved. not a fan of that as much.
rick nash is staying because his contract is a non starter.
you gotta give value to return value back
i think a deal like this is a distinct possibility.
zuc and kevin hayes ( hey, its just business buddy) for _______________ rhd
jt miller, kevin klein and Dylan mcilrath for __________________ rhd
3 way deal. cam fowler and jt miller for ___________________ rhd
I see what you did there.. and its priceless.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
I agree. I think if they play like they have been it's more of a chance we make a move for a RHD than trade Nash, Zucc, Klein etc
I think if the Rangers trade for Trouba, they become a much more balance team.
McD-Trouba
Staal-Clen
Skjei-Klein
I'm assuming McI would be shipped out in a trade for Trouba, and G and Holden should be bench players.
AV has a chance to sit one of Girardi and Holden and he's not. Why would he sit them both if we acquire Trouba?
glees68
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offdacrossbar
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Not really breaking news, but yeah.
call me crazy, but i really believe water is wet.
there, i said it
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Girardi isn't going to sit, whether we acquire Trouba or Vatanen or not. He might play third pairing. If they acquire Trouba, I expect that Trouba will play with McDonagh. If they acquire Vatanen, I expect that Vatanen will play with Staal.
McDonagh-Klein
Staal-Vatanen
Skjei-Girardi
McDonagh-Trouba
Staal-Klein
Skjei-Girardi
McDonagh-Klein
Staal-Vatanen
Skjei-Girardi
McDonagh-Trouba
Staal-Klein
Skjei-Girardi
Pavel Buchnevich
Drury and Laviolette Must Go
Not really breaking news, but yeah.
Right after that he published some tweets about Dougie Hamilton.
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glees68
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Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Hes transcribing a radio interview on tsn1040 in Van. Gotta listen to it to get a better idea.
NYRFAN218
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I think I'd do the pairings you have with Vatanen for Trouba as well. Obviously you want that dominant number one pairing but Staal - Klein I've never liked together. Spread the wealth to have a really good top 4.
glees68
Penn State
Yeah, this is a very important thing to note. Don't think the Rangers are linked to Hamilton, but I can't listen to the interview so I can't say for sure.
That 2nd option seems more realistic for AV. If we do acquire a top 4D man i think we can make another run THIS year.
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it's funn how smart AV thinks he is. Girardi had ZERO trade value this offseason, and even now he really doesn't have much at all, but my god, it's not like he's been good the last 2 years, and yet AV has this fascination with him.
Gorton, take his toys away
offdacrossbar
misfit fanboy
that second option is pretty nice
i could probably live with that and with this group of forwards playing this way, be pretty confident we can run with anybody until the deadline.
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I think it's more likely that Gorton acquires one defenseman (Vatanen or Trouba) this year, unloads some guys at the deadline (specifically Nash, Klein, and Glass), then buys out/trades Girardi prior to expansion, and then finally in Free Agency next year he signs Shattenkirk.
McDonagh-Shattenkirk
Staal-Vatanen
Skjei-Clendening (assuming he sticks around).
Vatanen will be a right handed Yandle, and with Staal around, I think AV will still treat them like a top pairing unlike how he did with Yandle last year.
Shattenkirk will be an all around guy that will suit McDonagh well, and AV should trust him just as much as he does Girardi.
Clendening with another year of development with this team should cement himself in the bottom pairing. Figure one of Holden or some other UFA 7th defenseman is here next season, and there's your defense.
Hell of a lot better than this year, and literally light years better than last year.
Side note, if Trouba can be acquired instead of vatanen, that's even bigger.
McDonagh-Shattenkirk
Staal-Vatanen
Skjei-Clendening (assuming he sticks around).
Vatanen will be a right handed Yandle, and with Staal around, I think AV will still treat them like a top pairing unlike how he did with Yandle last year.
Shattenkirk will be an all around guy that will suit McDonagh well, and AV should trust him just as much as he does Girardi.
Clendening with another year of development with this team should cement himself in the bottom pairing. Figure one of Holden or some other UFA 7th defenseman is here next season, and there's your defense.
Hell of a lot better than this year, and literally light years better than last year.
Side note, if Trouba can be acquired instead of vatanen, that's even bigger.
Question - what is Girardi's cap hit if he is bought out after this season?
Is it $1.44M for 6 years? Two thirds of remaining total ($13M total) over 2X remaining length of contact (3yrs)?
Is it $1.44M for 6 years? Two thirds of remaining total ($13M total) over 2X remaining length of contact (3yrs)?
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