Speculation: Trade Rumors & Roster Building Thread: Part XXV "Gorton the new magician?"

[BBKers]

Carry on friends!
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2016-2017 (46)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD(24)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr|Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status|Team 2016 |Drafted/Acquired |Age 2016
1| F | Brandon Pirri |$1,100,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #59 Chicago Blackhawks (2009) - signed w/NYR as UFA |25
2| F | Jesper Fast(h) |$950.000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #157 NYR (2010) |25
3| D | Dylan McIlrath |$800,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #10 NYR (2010) |24
4| F | Oscar Lindberg^ |$650,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #57 PHX (2010) - acquired unsigned through trade|25
5| F | Josh Jooris |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - signed w/NYR as UFA |26
6| D | Adam Clendening |$600.000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #36 Chicago Blackhawks (2011) |24
7| F | J.T. Miller |$2.750.000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011) |23
8| F | Mika Zibanejad |$2,625,000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #6 Ottawa Senators (2011) - acquired through trade |23
9| F | Kevin Hayes |$2,600,000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #24 Chicago (2010)- signed w/NYR as UFA |24
10| D | Brady Skjei (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #28 NYR (2012) |22
11| F | Jimmy Vesey (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #66 Nashville (2012)- signed w/NYR as UFA |23
12| D | Kevin Klein |$2,900,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #37 Nashville Predators (2003) - acquired through trade|32
13| D | Nick Holden |$1,650,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |29
14| F | Michael Grabner |$1,600,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #14 Vancover Canucks (2006) - signed w/NYR as UFA |29
15| G | Anti Raanta |$1,000,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |27
16| F | Pavel Buchnevich (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R3 #75 NYR (2013) |21
17| F | Rick Nash (NMC) |$7,800,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #1 overall Columbus Blue Jackets (2002) - acquired through trade|32
18| D | Ryan McDonagh |$4,700,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 Montreal (2007) - acquired unsigned through trade|27
19| F | Mats Zuccarello (NTC) |$4,500,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |29
20| D | Dan Girardi (NMC => NTC)|$5,500,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |32
21| F | Chris Kreider |$4,625,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |25
22| G | Henrik Lundqvist (NMC)|$8,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #208 NYR (2000) |34
23| F | Derek Stepan (NMC => NTC)|$6,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #51 NYR (2008) |26
24| D | Marc Staal (NMC => NTC)|$5,750,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 NYR (2005) |29[/table]

TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $73,000,000
CAP PAYROLL: $70,975,000
CAP PENALTY (for stashing T. Glass in minors): $500,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster - 14 FWDs, 8 D, 2 G): $2,025,000
LTIR: $650,000 (injured players salary - Lindberg - can be deducted once season starts)
^ - injured, operated on in offseason and placed on LTIR until November

AVERAGE AGE ~ 26.1 years

CONTRACTED BUT ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL/ELSEWHERE (22)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status |Team 2016 |Drafted |Age 2016
25|F |Tanner Glass |$1,450,000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #265 Florida Panthers (2003) - signed w/NYR as UFA |32
26|D |Chris Summers |$600.000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #29 Phoenix Coyotes (2006) |28
27|D |Matt Bodie |$600.000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |26
28|F |Justin Fontaine |$600.000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |29
29|D |Tommy Hughes |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |24
30|F |Adam Chapie (ELC) |$800.000* |RFA 2017 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25
31|D |Troy Donnay (ELC) |$716,667* |RFA 2017 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
32|G |MacKenzie Skapski (ELC)|$661,667* |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R6 #170 NYR (2013) |22
33|D |Calle Andersson (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #119 NYR (2012) |22
34|G |Magnus Hellberg |$625,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #38 Nashville (2011) |25
35|F |Marek Hrivik |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25
36|F |Niklas Jensen |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #29 Vancouver (2011) |23
37|D |Michael Paliotta |$600.000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #61 Chicago Blackhawks (2011) |23
38|F |Chris Brown |$575,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #36 Arizona (2009) |25
39|F |Adam Tambellini (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #65 NYR (2013) |22
40|F |Cristoval Nieves(ELC) |$755.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |22
41|F |Steven Fogarty (ELC) |$750.000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #72 NYR (2011) |23
42|F |Malte Strömwall (ELC) |$742.500* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R7 #7198 Calgary(started w NYR) |23
43|D |John Gilmour(ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |22
44|D |Ryan Graves (ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #110 NYR (2013) |21
45|LW |Robin Kovacs (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #62 NYR (2015) |20
46|G |Brandon Halvorsen (ELC)|$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |R2 #59 NYR (2014) |20
(47)|F |Ryan Gropp (ELC-S)¤ |$839.166* |RFA 2020 |Seattle Thunderbirds/WHL |R2 #41 NYR (2015) |20
(48)|D |Sergey Zborovskiy (ELC-S)¤|$734,166 |RFA 2020 |Regina Pats/WHL |R3 #79 NYR (2015) |19
(49)|RW |Michael Joly @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |21
(50)|LW/D|Ahti Oksanen @ |$??? |AHL deal |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted |23
(51)|LW |Matt Carey @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |24
(52)|C |Philip McRae @ |$?? |AHL deal |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #33 St Louis Blues (2008) |26
(53)|D |Spiro Goulakos @ |$?? |AHL deal |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted |26
(54)|G |Jeff Malcom @ |$?? |AHL deal |Greenville Swamp Rabbits/ECHL |Undrafted |27[/table]

* - has additional bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
¤ - contract can slide if he remains in juniors (Zborovskiy)
@ - signed to an AHL deal with Hartford Wolfpack

PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT WITH RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (11)
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Team 2016| Height |Weight| Nationality |Shoots|DOB|Drafted
1|G |Igor Shesterkin |St. Petersburg SKA (KHL) |6' 1"| 187 | Russia |L|December 30, 1995 |R4 #118 NYR (2014)
2|D |Tyler Nanne ¤ |Ohio State/NCAA (did not play) |5' 10"|175 | USA |R|March 17, 1996 |R5 #142 NYR (2014)
3|C |Brad Morrison |Prince George/WHL |6' 0"| 160 | Canada |L|January 4, 1997 |R4 #113 NYR (2015)
4|RW |Daniel Bernhardt |London Knights/OHL |6' 3"| 191 | Sweden |L|April 11, 1996 |R4 #119 NYR (2015)
5|G |Adam Huska |Green Bay Gamblers/USHL |6' 3" |191 | Slovakia |L|May 12, 1997 |R7 #184 NYR (2015)
6|D |Sean Day |Mississauga Steelheads/OHL |6' 2" |229 | Belgium/Canada|L|January 9, 1998 |R3 #81 NYR (2016)
7|D |Tarmo Reunanen |TPS U20 (Finland) |6' 0" |180 | Finland |L|March 1, 1998 |R4 #98 NYR (2016)
8|LW/RW |Timothy Gettinger |Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds/OHL|6' 5" |201 | USA |R|April 14, 1998 |R5 #141 NYR (2016)
9|c |Gabriel Fontaine |Rouyn-Noranda Huskies/QMJHL |6' 1" |187 | Canada |L|April 30, 1997 |R6 #171 NYR (2016)
10|G |Tyler Wall |Leamington Flyers/GOJHL |6' 2" |190 | Canada |R|January 14, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2016)
11|C |Ty Ronning |Vancouver Giants/WHL |5' 9" |165 | Canada |R|October 20, 1997 |R7 #201 NYR (2016)
(12)|F |Klingberg, Carl |Free agent - rights retained |6' 3" |205 | Sweden |R|January 28, 1991 |R2 #34 Atlanta (2009)[/table]

¤ - injured

2017 DRAFT PICKS (6)

• 1st round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round Florida
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round VAN
• 7th round NYR

• We lost our 2nd round pick to Carolina in the trade for Eric Staal
• We lost our 4th round pick to Colorado in the trade for Nick Holden
• We gained a 4th round pick from Arizona for Keith Yandle - condition was met when he signed a 7 year deal there
• We lost our 6th round pick to Nashville in the trade for Magnus Hellberg
• We gained a 6th round pick from Vancouver when we traded Emerson Etem

2018 DRAFT PICKS (7)

• 1st round NYR
• 2nd round Ottawa
• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round NYR
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round NYR

• We gained a 2nd round pick from Ottawa when we traded Derrick Brassard
• We then also lost our 7th round pick to Ottawa in the trade for Mika Zibanejad

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[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

So, are any of the Dregers and McKenzies of the world talking about how extensively the Rangers and Ducks have been scouting each other?

 

[Irishguy42]

So, are any of the Dregers and McKenzies of the world talking about how extensively the Rangers and Ducks have been scouting each other?

Nope.

 

[Trxjw]

So, are any of the Dregers and McKenzies of the world talking about how extensively the Rangers and Ducks have been scouting each other?

These guys never seem to have the inside track on the Rangers' dealings. Rangers are so tight-lipped. Ducks tend to be the same way.

 

[TheGuarantee]

So, are any of the Dregers and McKenzies of the world talking about how extensively the Rangers and Ducks have been scouting each other?

I take that as a good thing. The only time I remember those guys breaking anything NYR related was Gomez to Montreal and I remember these boards had that done before them as well

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

These guys never seem to have the inside track on the Rangers' dealings. Rangers are so tight-lipped. Ducks tend to be the same way.

Was not aware of that re: the Ducks, but obviously the Rangers have always been notorious for it, and appear to be getting even more tightlipped under Gorton. I think they broke every one of their own FA signings as well as the Zibanejad deal. (Which is kind of amazing.)

Still, you'd think they'd be all over which FOs are attending which games, especially when they show up in force. That'd be a no-brainer if I was in their shoes.

 

[Levitate]

Was not aware of that re: the Ducks, but obviously the Rangers have always been notorious for it, and appear to be getting even more tightlipped under Gorton. I think they broke every one of their own FA signings as well as the Zibanejad deal. (Which is kind of amazing.)

Still, you'd think they'd be all over which FOs are attending which games, especially when they show up in force. That'd be a no-brainer if I was in their shoes.

Could just be there's lots of scouting going on in general right now and it's not actually that unusual...

 

[2Leetch_94]

I take that as a good thing. The only time I remember those guys breaking anything NYR related was Gomez to Montreal and I remember these boards had that done before them as well

Pretty sure Dreger broke the Rick Nash trade but yeah, it's far and few between.

 

[TheGuarantee]

Pretty sure Dreger broke the Rick Nash trade but yeah, it's far and few between.

Ah that's right, forgot about that one. Did he break the news that he requested a trade to NYR or are you talking about the actual trade itself?

 

[Whitehawk1186]

If a trade happens, the Rangers will be the one to break the story. The entire hockey community was obsessed with the Vesey-Sweepstakes, and Gorton kept the lid on that air tight.

 

[alkurtz]

Not really a big fan of Cam Fowler but was listening to NHL radio this afternoon and they were interviewing one of the Ducks beat writers who said that Fowler was by far their best defenseman so far this year and he has been playing really well.

 

[BBKers]

Was not aware of that re: the Ducks, but obviously the Rangers have always been notorious for it, and appear to be getting even more tightlipped under Gorton. I think they broke every one of their own FA signings as well as the Zibanejad deal. (Which is kind of amazing.)

Still, you'd think they'd be all over which FOs are attending which games, especially when they show up in force. That'd be a no-brainer if I was in their shoes.

Outta my head:
SIGNINGS
Signing both Gomez and Redden was not expected
Richards was hugely speculated by a lot of media going to NYR beforehand. So was, unfortunately, Redden.
Vesey and Hayes had some minor media traction but the Rangers were never seen as favourites (except by Ranger Boy)
Brooks had something about signing Grabner beforehand this year

TRADES
Gomez deal was outta the blue
Dregger broke Nash but Brooks was pimping it for a while
Boomer broke the MSL deal
Everybody knew about Eric Staal
Zinbad/Brass was totally outta the blue
Yandle was also quite sudden, although there was a bit the last few days before the trade
Eklund well... he broke my heart. Every day... Therefore my bypass

 

[NickyFotiu]

I take that as a good thing. The only time I remember those guys breaking anything NYR related was Gomez to Montreal and I remember these boards had that done before them as well

I think one of them had the Yandle deal before it was official but they thought it was Dan Girardi going to Arizona not John Moore.

Sometimes outside people only get "info" from agents or teams leaking disinformation that they want the public to see for various reasons. Agents might leak bogus contract offers to push a price. Teams might leak a bogus trade to try to draw other offers.

 

[FLYLine27*]

If a trade happens, the Rangers will be the one to break the story. The entire hockey community was obsessed with the Vesey-Sweepstakes, and Gorton kept the lid on that air tight.

Well to be fair Gordon and the Rangers didn't know he was going to pick the Rangers until that day..so there was nothing to come out.

 

[2Leetch_94]

Ah that's right, forgot about that one. Did he break the news that he requested a trade to NYR or are you talking about the actual trade itself?

Actual trade.

 

[BBKers]

I think one of them had the Yandle deal before it was official but they thought it was Dan Girardi going to Arizona not John Moore.

Sometimes outside people only get "info" from agents or teams leaking disinformation that they want the public to see for various reasons. Agents might leak bogus contract offers to push a price. Teams might leak a bogus trade to try to draw other offers.

So true. You have no idea

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Could just be there's lots of scouting going on in general right now and it's not actually that unusual...

Normally I'd agree, but when the higher ups in the FO start attneding games (AGM, Head of pro scouting, etc) and allegedly, the Ducks GM, I'd say that this is anything but usual.

 

[2Leetch_94]

Just makes me question that if the Ducks weren't playing local teams like the Isles, Devils, and Flyers, would Drury, Clark, etc be at these games. Same with Murray attending the Rangers games while the Ducks are in town. Could be just as simple as laying down the foundation for a potential trade down the road than anything being imminent.

 

[Whitehawk1186]

Well to be fair Gordon and the Rangers didn't know he was going to pick the Rangers until that day..so there was nothing to come out.

Good point, but it was still impressive nevertheless

 

[Lion Hound]

Outta my head:
SIGNINGS
Signing both Gomez and Redden was not expected
Richards was hugely speculated by a lot of media going to NYR beforehand. So was, unfortunately, Redden.
Vesey and Hayes had some minor media traction but the Rangers were never seen as favourites (except by Ranger Boy)
Brooks had something about signing Grabner beforehand this year

TRADES
Gomez deal was outta the blue
Dregger broke Nash but Brooks was pimping it for a while
Boomer broke the MSL deal
Everybody knew about Eric Staal
Zinbad/Brass was totally outta the blue
Yandle was also quite sudden, although there was a bit the last few days before the trade
Eklund well... he broke my heart. Every day... Therefore my bypass

Gotta hat tip Ranger Boy on this one too. Not the actual trade itself, but the idea of Brassard being traded. Affordable contract, sell high etc. That topic was discussed quite a bit last season and early into the offseason. Some posters hated it from what I remember.

 

[aufheben]

Just makes me question that if the Ducks weren't playing local teams like the Isles, Devils, and Flyers, would Drury, Clark, etc be at these games. Same with Murray attending the Rangers games while the Ducks are in town. Could be just as simple as laying down the foundation for a potential trade down the road than anything being imminent.

True but I think the speculation with regards to imminence is largely because of the Ducks' dire contract situation with Lindholm. Not only has the season begun but they're 0-3-1 and arguably their most important player doesn't have a contract. Not to mention Gorton going after Shattenkirk just about a week ago.

 

[TheGuarantee]

Just makes me question that if the Ducks weren't playing local teams like the Isles, Devils, and Flyers, would Drury, Clark, etc be at these games. Same with Murray attending the Rangers games while the Ducks are in town. Could be just as simple as laying down the foundation for a potential trade down the road than anything being imminent.

It's because they're trying to fit in Lindholm who is better than Vatanen and Fowler, who I'd gladly take either

 

[Roo Returns]

If the Ducks scouts are at the game tonight, something might be up. The last opponent was SJ so that just might be the Ducks checking out a division opponent.

Rangers-Ducks Notable Trades in somewhat recent history:

Rucchin for a pick and minor leaguer
Sykora for Kondratiev and a pick
Unofficial three way...Niemmanen to SJS and the pick to Anaheim for Ozolinsh
Bickell for Williams
Zaborsky for McCue
Emminger for Voros
Etem for Hagelin

Not to mention Rangers claimed Christensen off waiver from Ducks. So the two team have dealt with each other fairly frequently the last decade +.

 

[2Leetch_94]

I understand the urgency from the Ducks end, just saying basing anything off the teams scouting each other could be premature. Ducks are in town, so both teams doing their due diligence but I'm sure Ducks have a lot of moving parts if they can sign Lindholm and it may not include the Rangers participating.

Or a trade could be announced an hour from now. It's all speculating at this point. Ducks need to clear up cap space. Rangers seem to be active(based on the Shattenkirk offer), Ducks in town so both teams heavily scouting the other on off days. Teams have made trades before, Hagelin for example. Ducks have defense to spare. Connecting the dots, seems to be an ideal match. We'll see. Just not as sold as if they were scouting each other and it wasn't so convenient for both parties.

 

[offdacrossbar]

Not really a big fan of Cam Fowler but was listening to NHL radio this afternoon and they were interviewing one of the Ducks beat writers who said that Fowler was by far their best defenseman so far this year and he has been playing really well.

if they told the truth they couldn't move him.

i kid, i kid....

he has played pretty well and yes he's in play so makes sense that the word out there would need to be pretty positive.

on a side note, rick nash seems to be dressing better this year so far, his suits fit better too.

plus, he can cook.

so theres that