Trade Rumors & Proposals Thread V: Kane you believe it? Edition

[Draft]

I know nothing of Armia and Lemieux but can we have a more honest projection of 'em, please?
Who are their equivalents on the Habs?

Armia doesn't really have a Habs equivalent. He's NHL ready, has really good size, a full offensive skillset, and decent two-way play. He's a solid prospect, I'd value him close to Scherbak. Lemieux is quite comparable to DLR in terms of value, he's a tough customer with a pretty clear NHL future as a 3rd line player - he was rumoured to be drafted as high as the first round in his draft year (to us no less).

 

[Agnostic]

It was reported that Montréal and Vancouver were in discussions for E.Kane

After his season ending surgery? Not bloody likely.

 

[Michelangelo]

how were Habs in the mix?

Eklund.

Michelangelo

 

[GREMLIN]

Kane will never pull a Seguin as far as I'm concerned, he's not even close to Seguin's talent, great athlete but hockeysense is questionnable

I like this deal for the Jets, hope they make it into the playoffs

My money's on Myers thriving in Winnipeg's system and becoming the best player in the deal

 

[hototogisu]

Eklund.

Michelangelo

...it was Bob McKenzie who reported the Habs were in on Kane, along with VAN.

 

[Le Tricolore]

...it was Bob McKenzie who reported the Habs were in on Kane, along with VAN.

holy ****, Bob McKenzie is Eklund?!

 

[Tabarouette]

holy ****, Bob McKenzie is Eklund?!

confirmed (e3)

 

[Chfan]

Kane will never pull a Seguin as far as I'm concerned, he's not even close to Seguin's talent, great athlete but hockeysense is questionnable

I like this deal for the Jets, hope they make it into the playoffs

My money's on Myers thriving in Winnipeg's system and becoming the best player in the deal

I don't think anyone pans out in this deal and Bogosian becomes the best player in the deal.

 

[Chfan]

holy ****, Bob McKenzie is Eklund?!

Yup, when he's not sure he's Eklund, when he's sure he's Bob McKenzie.

 

[smirob]

If Bergevin was in on Kane (according to Mckenzie) do you think he will go after someone like ROR?

I don't see LW as a huge need for MTL (as long as Chucky is on the wing), but maybe Bergevin does?

 

[Seb]

 

[DangerDave]

I know nothing of Armia and Lemieux but can we have a more honest projection of 'em, please?
Who are their equivalents on the Habs?

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/joel_armia/
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/brendan-lemieux/

Joel Armia seems like a really nice piece. Big, fast and strong. Don't really know if we have anything like him in our prospect pool. Seems like a typical power forward similar to Charlie Coyle. Don't know if he'll be anywhere near Coyle but they play a similar style from what little I've seen of him.

Lemieux I've seen even less of but he seems like a solid two way forward.

That is all I know about these two. Armia I think has the potential to be a solid NHL player in the near future.

 

[Monctonscout]

wow... sucks for us.

Sabres add two pieces that will make them that much harder to play agains, that much sooner. Didn't even give up any of their prized young assets/picks in the process... nicely done.

also sucks that Bogo moves. The pool of RHD that would be a fit for our top-4 needs moving forward AND potentially available just got smaller. He was likely the best candidate in terms of fit/availability/price.


wonder if this influences MB's conversations with Wash on M.Green. He is UFA-to-be, so could wait for summer and make a pitch, but bringing him in for the playoff run would help both our iimmediate needs and give him a taste of playoff time in montreal (which could help make signing him a bit easier).

Kane will never pull a Seguin as far as I'm concerned, he's not even close to Seguin's talent, great athlete but hockeysense is questionnable

I like this deal for the Jets, hope they make it into the playoffs

My money's on Myers thriving in Winnipeg's system and becoming the best player in the deal

Winnipeg basically replaced 70% or more of what Kane gave them, I think Stafford with a change of scenery could be really good for 3-4 months, may be little to no dropoff.

Now they can flip or use other young assets(picks/prospects) to add a piece(using Kane's money) like ROR Yandle etc or just for a rental(Vermette Santorelli Winnik Erat Petry Methot etc).

It's a key year for them to make the playoffs, obviously for the GM's job and also for the long term health of the franchise...they need to show growth.

 

[sampollock]

MB do something, so we can stop talking about the peg

 

[Seb]

Jets dressing room right now :

 

[sampollock]

NO PANIC MB, but let HF boards know what you are up too

 

[Monctonscout]

If Bergevin was in on Kane (according to Mckenzie) do you think he will go after someone like ROR?

I don't see LW as a huge need for MTL (as long as Chucky is on the wing), but maybe Bergevin does?

The ROR contract is a much tougher fit than Kane's. ROR only has 1.5 years left and usually goes for max dollars so he will want to test UFA waters...

 

[FireBurningBin]

At first glance WPG and us don't seem to be great trading partners. Our biggest needs are wing depth and RHD, and I can't see Myers/Buff be traded. Perhaps Stafford?

 

[hototogisu]

At first glance WPG and us don't seem to be great trading partners. Our biggest needs are wing depth and RHD, and I can't see Myers/Buff be traded. Perhaps Stafford?

??

We were after Kane. Kane's gone, so I'm not sure there's any more connection between MTL and WPG.

 

[FloJack]

Armia doesn't really have a Habs equivalent. He's NHL ready, has really good size, a full offensive skillset, and decent two-way play. He's a solid prospect, I'd value him close to Scherbak.

That's who I was hoping for that draft, he got taken right before our pick and we got Beaulieu instead. I'm assuming Timmins would've taken Beaulieu over Armia anyway as he was the dropper in his class and a viewed as a steal at 17.

 

[Dagistitsyn]

Kane and Myers are both so overrated.

 

[waffledave]

It'll be Vermette... I don't really see why there's so much objection to him. He's exactly the kind of player that the Habs system is made for. He can score, he can play defense, he can kill penalties, win faceoffs, he can play 2 positions (so MT will have a field day trying him with everyone on the team) and he's a gritty, tough player. Exactly what you want going into the playoffs, and going forward he is a good replacement for DD if you choose to move him in the offseason.

 

[417]

Kane will never pull a Seguin as far as I'm concerned, he's not even close to Seguin's talent, great athlete but hockeysense is questionnable
I like this deal for the Jets, hope they make it into the playoffs

My money's on Myers thriving in Winnipeg's system and becoming the best player in the deal

why do you say that?

Kane can score goals, play physical and this year even played a more defensive role

what screams out a lack of hockey sense here other than the obvious?

 

[FireBurningBin]

??

We were after Kane. Kane's gone, so I'm not sure there's any more connection between MTL and WPG.

oh, I didn't read the time of the tweet; I thought there was talk between WPG and us, and that the Kane deal going through opened the doors for that to continue.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

It'll be Vermette... I don't really see why there's so much objection to him. He's exactly the kind of player that the Habs system is made for. He can score, he can play defense, he can kill penalties, win faceoffs, he can play 2 positions (so MT will have a field day trying him with everyone on the team) and he's a gritty, tough player. Exactly what you want going into the playoffs, and going forward he is a good replacement for DD if you choose to move him in the offseason.

Vermette's not that good.