Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals 2018-2019 (Part 6)

[Liver King]

Patrick Voracek Ghost and Myers

I'd look at those guys from Philly

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Isles may make a good destination for a couple of our players. Would love to get Dobson back... Bouchard needs to learn how to skate at an NHL level.

 

[HSF]

I dunno but I feel like Stone can allow Pulji to ignite his potential again

Question, would you rather trade Dzingel for a 1st on a contender or trade him straight up for Pulji

pulji

 

[danielpalfredsson]

I dunno but I feel like Stone can allow Pulji to ignite his potential again

Question, would you rather trade Dzingel for a 1st on a contender or trade him straight up for Pulji

EDM 1st>Puljujarvi
Puljujarvi>Contenders 1st

Edmonton's 1st would be a juicy pickup. They are out of the playoffs.

So either we get a non-playoff pick in 2019, or if Edmonton exercises some form of protection we get an unprotected 2020 pick.

I can't believe they are supposedly willing to move their 1st over Puljujarvi. In their shoes, I would want to keep the 1st and move Puljujarvi.

I'd take Puljujarvi over a late 1st. I don't follow the draft intently so I can only speak in generalizations, but I'd rather have Puljujarvi over the average 25th-30th overall type prospect.

 

[HSF]

EDM 1st>Puljujarvi
Puljujarvi>Contenders 1st

Edmonton's 1st would be a juicy pickup. They are out of the playoffs.

So either we get a non-playoff pick in 2019, or if Edmonton exercises some form of protection we get an unprotected 2020 pick.

I can't believe they are supposedly willing to move their 1st over Puljujarvi. In their shoes, I would want to keep the 1st and move Puljujarvi.

I'd take Puljujarvi over a late 1st. I don't follow the draft intently so I can only speak in generalizations, but I'd rather have Puljujarvi over the average 25th-30th overall type prospect.

cause they wan't to make the playoffs and they feel Poolparty is going to breakout.

That doesn't mean they won't deal him though

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I dunno but I feel like Stone can allow Pulji to ignite his potential again

Question, would you rather trade Dzingel for a 1st on a contender or trade him straight up for Pulji

Where does the Contender pick in the draft. For example lets say outside the top 10 in the 2019 Draft;

Picks I would like over Puljujarvi are; Based on CSS mid term rankings of both NA and International skaters some what combined.. if you takethe top 3 international skaters and put them in the top 10 overall.

Krebs
Suzuki
Lavoie
Newhook
Soderstrom

So I would say it depends on the pick

 

[Masked]

I dunno but I feel like Stone can allow Pulji to ignite his potential again

Question, would you rather trade Dzingel for a 1st on a contender or trade him straight up for Pulji

A first rounder will be exempt for the next expansion draft. Pulji will not be.

 

[BonkTastic]

Sure if we send Condon back the other way

I would 1000% trade Spooner for Condon.

Considering the Rangers are already picking up almost $1mil of Spooner's paycheque next year, and considering Condon's escalating salary structure, they make the same salary next year.

Spooner isn't worth his salary, but Condon is literally worthless. Easy peasy.

 

[Big Papi]

Ottawa placed Falk on waivers

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

About Falking time

 

[stempniaksen]

I would 1000% trade Spooner for Condon.

Considering the Rangers are already picking up almost $1mil of Spooner's paycheque next year, and considering Condon's escalating salary structure, they make the same salary next year.

Spooner isn't worth his salary, but Condon is literally worthless. Easy peasy.

I'm not sure anyone hates Condon more than me on these boards, so I'd make that deal so quick.

That being said, if Condon is gonna be LTIR'ed for the remainder of his deal it doesn't make financial sense to move him. I have no idea if he's hurt to that extent, but the fact we've heard nothing this year doesn't give me much hope he'll be back.

Regardless, we need to go cheap in nets next season. Half decent goalies are a dime a dozen, we can't keep sinking multiple million into our backups. I'm assuming we won't now that we have an actual goaltending pipeline being built up, but it's a killer for a budget team.

 

[senswon]

Ottawa placed Falk on waivers

Roster moves = trade incoming?

 

[danielpalfredsson]

I'm not sure anyone hates Condon more than me on these boards, so I'd make that deal so quick.

That being said, if Condon is gonna be LTIR'ed for the remainder of his deal it doesn't make financial sense to move him. I have no idea if he's hurt to that extent, but the fact we've heard nothing this year doesn't give me much hope he'll be back.

Regardless, we need to go cheap in nets next season. Half decent goalies are a dime a dozen, we can't keep sinking multiple million into our backups. I'm assuming we won't now that we have an actual goaltending pipeline being built up, but it's a killer for a budget team.

Not every LTIR player is insured.

"Each team pays a premium based on the salaries of its five highest-paid players, but is free to allocate that coverage how it wishes. Typically, a team will extend coverage to as many as seven players, Daly said. Coverage kicks in when a player misses at least 30 games."
(How does the NHL handle injury insurance?)

Given that Condon was not one of our higher paid players, and the risk of injury for a backup goalie isn't all that high compared to a skater, I'd be surprised if we allocated any insurance to Condon.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Roster moves = trade incoming?

He was activated off of IR, and we have a healthy d-core so we don't need him. Thus he was placed on waivers. It's likely not related to a roster move, but if we don't need another AHL defender, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Sens sneak him into an unrelated trade because he makes almost 200k in the minors.

 

[stempniaksen]

Not every LTIR player is insured.

"Each team pays a premium based on the salaries of its five highest-paid players, but is free to allocate that coverage how it wishes. Typically, a team will extend coverage to as many as seven players, Daly said. Coverage kicks in when a player misses at least 30 games."
(How does the NHL handle injury insurance?)

Given that Condon was not one of our higher paid players, and the risk of injury for a backup goalie isn't all that high compared to a skater, I'd be surprised if we allocated any insurance to Condon.

 

[senswon]

He was activated off of IR, and we have a healthy d-core so we don't need him. Thus he was placed on waivers. It's likely not related to a roster move, but if we don't need another AHL defender, it wouldn't surprise me to see the Sens sneak him into an unrelated trade because he makes almost 200k in the minors.

Can't teams carry more players after the deadline?

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Can't teams carry more players after the deadline?

They need to still be cap compliant. The salary cap is not eliminated until the playoffs. There's no way of getting around it, if Sekera is cleared, they need to shed cap. They can buy time with an AHL conditioning stint, but they will eventually by early February have to clear cap.

(Not related to the Oilers situation, but there was a unique situation taking advantage of this a few years ago where Chicago had Patrick Kane on LTIR due to an injury, and because he was injured until the playoffs they were able to add more than they otherwise would have at the deadline. You can read more about it here: https://thehockeywriters.com/tape2tape-closing-the-patrick-kane-loophole/)

 

[SensFactor]

I actually didn't mind Falk. He was physical and defensively sound. Didn't have a lick of offensive potential though.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

I actually didn't mind Falk. He was physical and defensively sound. Didn't have a lick of offensive potential though.

I didn’t even know he was on the team.

 

[swiftwin]

Roster moves = trade incoming?

I'm thinking it has more to do with Wolanin establishing himself at the NHL level.

Falk was always going to be a band-aid for our massive injury troubles last month. Now we're getting healthy again. He did good at what he was asked to do.

 

[topshelf15]

I'm thinking it has more to do with Wolanin establishing himself at the NHL level.

Falk was always going to be a band-aid for our massive injury troubles last month. Now we're getting healthy again. He did good at what he was asked to do.

And it gave other teams a chance to have a look ,so maybe he gets picked up... Win/win IMHO

 

[DJB]

he's coming home

Hopefully not. He sucks and is a third of the price we need for Duchene and Stone

 

[Neiler]

I hope we don't go near Edmonton. I'm more excited about some of our recent late round picks than I am about Puljujarvi. Spooner just takes a roster spot from a young player. I think I'd rather pick up Rattie than either of them, and I don't want him either.

 

[Canadian Time]

I hope we don't go near Edmonton. I'm more excited about some of our recent late round picks than I am about Puljujarvi. Spooner just takes a roster spot from a young player. I think I'd rather pick up Rattie than either of them, and I don't want him either.

Stay away from all of their crap, don't know why anyone is even considering that there's anything worth trading for there.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Good news for the Oilers if true

If we trade Anderson I wouldnt be against adding Talbot and having him compete with Nilsson... it would give us more leverage in terms of negotiating a short term contract if we have two UFAs, especially if Talbot plays well