Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals 2018-2019 (Part 15)

[Viletho]

Dobson tied for 4th in Q playoff scoring. 3 goals 12 assists +12 in 10 games.

He's a monster. He was the player I wanted. But very happy with Tkachuk

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He's a monster. He was the player I wanted. But very happy with Tkachuk

I definitely teetered between those 2. Islanders are lucky he fell imo. Should have been a top 5. Its too bad the Sens could not have parlayed Karlsson, Stone, or Duchene into snagging him.

 

[Daffy]

He's a monster. He was the player I wanted. But very happy with Tkachuk

Dobson is good but thank god we didn't take him over Tkachuk.

 

[Sens in Process]

He's a monster. He was the player I wanted. But very happy with Tkachuk

I really don't think we can read much into Dobson's production on that stacked team, just like we can't read too much into his -30 in 28 games on a really bad one.

Rouyn-Nouranda is lighting it up. In the last two games alone, RN has scored 14 goals, one of which was an 8-0 game where Dobson had no points.

He is a good prospect, but I don't think he will be an offensive driver.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I really don't think we can read much into Dobson's production on that stacked team, just like we can't read too much into his -30 in 28 games on a really bad one.

Rouyn-Nouranda is lighting it up. In the last two games alone, RN has scored 14 goals, one of which was an 8-0 game where Dobson had no points.

He is a good prospect, but I don't think he will be an offensive driver.

I agree he is not going to absolutely shine as an offensive D man but I think he is a true two way Dman that is smart and can move the puck effectively. I think he is going to be a stud .. He just will not excel offensively like some of the new age D. Still I would have certainly picked him over Hayton, Zadina, Boqvist, Bouchard and Wahlstrom... Quinn Hughes was also a guy I liked but I would have taken Dobson over him as well although need would be a factor there.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Garrioch reported a week or so ago that we'll try to go after a veteran free agent forward. I've filtered UFA forwards on Capfriendly to limit it to 40 points with at least 40 GP with the purpose of giving us a good list of non-stars. There are a few players who are top 6 forwards who shouldn't be on this list like Zuccarello. Otherwise, I think this is a good representation of some of the guys the Senators might go after.

I think we'll have to overpay in either term or AAV to get one of these players. We've never been a strong free agent market. Overpaying on AAV rather than term might be better since we should have a small cushion of cap next year before we hit the floor, and we can also retain on the AAV at the deadline to flip the UFA for a draft pick if we are out of the playoffs.

Who do you guys think we will go after? Who do you guys think we should go after?

PLAYER	TEAM	AGE	POS	HANDED	GP	G	A	P	P/GP	+/-	Sh	Sh%	TOI	W	L	SO	GAA	Sv%	CLAUSE	EXPIRY	CAP HIT	SALARY
1. Jason Spezza	DAL	35	C, RW	Right	75	8	19	27	0.36	-13	116	0.07	13:15	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC, NMC	UFA	$7,500,000	$7,500,000
2. Jordan Eberle	NYI	28	RW	Right	77	19	18	37	0.48	-6	159	0.12	16:32	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$6,000,000	$6,000,000
3. Jason Pominville	BUF	35	RW	Right	72	16	14	30	0.42	-5	131	0.12	12:29	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC, NMC	UFA	$5,600,000	$5,000,000
4. Derick Brassard	COL	30	C	Left	69	14	9	23	0.33	-16	108	0.13	15:12	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$5,000,000	$3,500,000
5. Marcus Johansson	BOS	27	C, LW, RW	Left	57	13	17	30	0.53	-15	112	0.12	13:17	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$4,583,333	$4,750,000
6. Mats Zuccarello	DAL	30	RW	Left	48	12	28	40	0.83	-8	104	0.12	15:59	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$4,500,000	$4,500,000
7. Carl Hagelin	WSH	29	LW	Left	57	5	14	19	0.33	7	96	0.05	14:01	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$4,000,000	$3,666,000
8. Wayne Simmonds	NSH	29	RW, LW	Right	78	17	12	29	0.37	-17	156	0.11	12:43	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$3,975,000	$5,000,000
9. Colin Wilson	COL	28	C, LW	Left	64	12	15	27	0.42	-5	104	0.12	13:35	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$3,937,500	$4,000,000
10. Marcus Krüger	CHI	28	C	Left	73	4	8	12	0.16	-1	74	0.05	10:26	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$3,083,333	$2,300,000
11. Thomas Vanek	DET	34	LW, RW	Right	64	16	20	36	0.56	-12	108	0.15	14:06	-	-	-	-	-	NTC	UFA	$3,000,000	$3,000,000
12. Richard Pánik	ARI	27	LW, RW	Left	75	14	19	33	0.44	-3	140	0.10	16:36	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$2,800,000	$2,800,000
13. Valtteri Filppula	NYI	34	C, LW	Left	71	15	14	29	0.41	17	75	0.20	14:16	-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$2,750,000	$2,750,000
14. Brian Boyle	NSH	33	LW, C	Left	72	18	6	24	0.33	-14	120	0.15	12:52	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$2,550,000	$2,500,000
15. Riley Sheahan	FLA	26	LW, C	Left	81	9	10	19	0.23	-9	108	0.08	14:42	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$2,100,000	$2,100,000
16. Joonas Donskoi	SJS	26	RW	Right	79	14	23	37	0.47	10	115	0.12	13:25	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,900,000	$1,900,000
17. Patrick Maroon	STL	30	LW, RW	Left	73	10	18	28	0.38	-3	118	0.08	14:10	-	-	-	-	-	NTC	UFA	$1,750,000	$1,750,000
18. Jordan Weal	MTL	26	C, LW	Right	62	7	12	19	0.31	-9	73	0.10	10:56	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,750,000	$1,750,000
19. Micheal Ferland	CAR	26	LW, RW	Left	70	17	23	40	0.57	12	156	0.11	14:05	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,750,000	$1,800,000
20. Oscar Lindberg	OTT	26	LW, C	Left	54	9	11	20	0.37	4	90	0.10	13:03	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,700,000	$1,800,000
21. Nate Thompson	MTL	33	C	Left	78	5	8	13	0.17	-1	71	0.07	12:55	-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$1,650,000	$1,650,000
22. Pierre-Édouard Bellemare	VGK	33	LW, C	Left	75	6	9	15	0.20	2	105	0.06	12:22	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,450,000	$1,450,000
23. Brandon Tanev	WPG	26	RW, LW	Left	80	14	15	29	0.36	9	127	0.11	14:06	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,150,000	$1,150,000
24. Eric Fehr	MIN	32	C, RW	Right	71	7	8	15	0.21	-7	65	0.11	10:58	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,000,000	$1,000,000
25. Chris Kunitz	CHI	38	RW, LW	Left	55	5	5	10	0.18	-7	44	0.11	09:04	-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$1,000,000	$1,000,000
26. Devante Smith-Pelly	WSH	26	RW, LW	Right	54	4	4	8	0.15	-6	60	0.07	10:51	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,000,000	$1,000,000
27. Brian Gibbons	OTT	30	C	Left	63	8	10	18	0.29	-4	50	0.16	10:19	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$1,000,000	$1,000,000
28. Gabriel Bourque	COL	27	LW, RW	Left	54	2	6	8	0.15	2	34	0.06	09:42	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$950,000	$950,000
29. Pär Lindholm	WPG	26	LW, C	Left	64	1	11	12	0.19	4	64	0.02	11:26	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$925,000	$925,000
30. Magnus Pääjärvi	OTT	27	LW, RW	Left	79	11	8	19	0.24	-14	116	0.09	13:27	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$900,000	$900,000
31. Garnet Hathaway	CGY	26	LW, RW	Right	75	11	8	19	0.25	14	76	0.14	10:27	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$850,000	$850,000
32. Troy Brouwer	FLA	32	LW, RW	Right	74	12	9	21	0.28	-5	86	0.14	12:42	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$850,000	$850,000
33. Micheal Haley	SJS	32	C	Left	42	1	4	5	0.12	-2	32	0.03	07:30	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$825,000	$850,000
34. Drew Stafford	NJD	32	RW, LW	Right	56	5	8	13	0.23	-7	74	0.07	12:12	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$810,000	$810,000
35. Noel Acciari	BOS	26	RW, C	Right	72	6	8	14	0.19	-3	99	0.06	12:59	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$725,000	$750,000
36. Greg McKegg	CAR	26	C, LW	Left	41	6	5	11	0.27	-2	27	0.22	10:39	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$715,000	$715,000
37. Kenny Agostino	NJD	26	LW	Left	62	6	18	24	0.39	-3	79	0.08	11:11	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$700,000	$700,000
38. Mario Kempe	ARI	29	C, LW	Left	52	4	5	9	0.17	5	57	0.07	11:11	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$700,000	$700,000
39. Tyler Ennis	TOR	28	C, LW, RW	Left	51	12	6	18	0.35	-6	81	0.15	09:56	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$650,000	$650,000
40. Philip Varone	PHI	27	C	Left	46	3	4	7	0.15	-1	32	0.09	07:52	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$650,000	$650,000
41. Alex Chiasson	EDM	27	RW	Right	72	21	15	36	0.50	-2	122	0.17	16:58	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$650,000	$650,000
42. Ryan Carpenter	VGK	27	RW, C	Right	67	5	13	18	0.27	-5	100	0.05	12:36	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$650,000	$650,000
43. Garrett Wilson	PIT	27	RW, LW	Left	49	2	6	8	0.16	3	52	0.04	07:38	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$650,000	$650,000
44. Matt Cullen	PIT	41	C, LW	Left	70	7	13	20	0.29	6	86	0.08	11:31	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$650,000	$650,000
45. Derek Grant	ANA	28	RW, C	Left	56	4	10	14	0.25	-6	74	0.05	13:49	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$650,000	$650,000
46. Tyler Ennis	TOR	28	C, LW, RW	Left	51	12	6	18	0.35	-6	81	0.15	09:56	-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$650,000	$650,000

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[Sens in Process]

I agree he is not going to absolutely shine as an offensive D man but I think he is a true two way Dman that is smart and can move the puck effectively. I think he is going to be a stud .. He just will not excel offensively like some of the new age D. Still I would have certainly picked him over Hayton, Zadina, Boqvist, Bouchard and Wahlstrom... Quinn Hughes was also a guy I liked but I would have taken Dobson over him as well although need would be a factor there.

I completely agree.

I liked Bochard before the draft. But viewing him at the WJC, I was not impressed.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I made a list a while back of guys I could see us looking into:

Joonas Donskoi
Derick Brassard
Brett Connolly
Jason Spezza
Brian Boyle
Richard Panik
Jason Pominville
Colin Wilson
Brandon Pirri
Ryan Carpenter
Garnet Hathaway
Drew Stafford

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I made a list a while back of guys I could see us looking into:

Joonas Donskoi
Derick Brassard
Brett Connolly
Jason Spezza
Brian Boyle
Richard Panik
Jason Pominville
Colin Wilson
Brandon Pirri
Ryan Carpenter
Garnet Hathaway
Drew Stafford

I'd like to add Zuccarello to that list. I think he is the type we need..A leave it all on the ice good but not great player that can lead by example.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I'd like to add Zuccarello to that list. I think he is the type we need..A leave it all on the ice good but not great player that can lead by example.

I'd love to add Zuccarello, I have always wanted him as a Sen, but I think he will be looking for a payday (or will go back to NYR). He has taken several paycuts and I expect he will be looking for long-term security and a cash-in deal and I dont think we will offer that. But yeah, I'd love Zuccarello

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I'd love to add Zuccarello, I have always wanted him as a Sen, but I think he will be looking for a payday (or will go back to NYR). He has taken several paycuts and I expect he will be looking for long-term security and a cash-in deal and I dont think we will offer that. But yeah, I'd love Zuccarello

He will be looking to get paid.. but IMO we need to pay up for 1 key forward and 1 key Dman. I think we need that for up to 3 years.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I'd love to add Zuccarello, I have always wanted him as a Sen, but I think he will be looking for a payday (or will go back to NYR). He has taken several paycuts and I expect he will be looking for long-term security and a cash-in deal and I dont think we will offer that. But yeah, I'd love Zuccarello

Rangers have the ability to turn around in record time. That draft lotto win is absolutely huge for them, especially coupled with a potentially huge UFA season this summer.

 

[topshelf15]

Rangers have the ability to turn around in record time. That draft lotto win is absolutely huge for them, especially coupled with a potentially huge UFA season this summer.

EK....

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Reading these boards, there have always been people claiming to know a guy who knows a guy who thinks Erik Karlsson would be fascinated with the idea of playing for the Rangers in New York.

Imagine how well that could cap off their rebuild. They have a wealth of picks and prospects. Zib might not be a franchise C like a Matthews or McDavid, but he's come into his own as a strong first line center. They have a strong enough pool of ELC goalie talent to supplement Lundqvist as he ages. They will potentially add Kravtsov whose stock has gone up quite a bit since being taken by them last year, as well as whichever of Hughes or Kakko falls to them.

The Rangers have 20 million free next season with 17 skaters already signed. They don't have any major contracts to give out. Buchnevich, Pionk, and DeAngelo are the key names, and unless the Rangers choose to lock them up 6-8 years, none of those guys are getting large AAVs. They could easily bring Karlsson in at 11-13 million and have it work within their cap structure.

Lundqvist then comes off the books before their 2nd overall pick needs a raise up from their ELC. They also have Staal, Shattenkirk, Namestnikov, and Smith coming off the books before then. There's lots of cap flexibility there.

All the picks/prospects they've added in the rebuild give them a chance to go after big time players in trades as well. They've got the assets to add.

Sounds like they could contend for the playoffs next year if they get Karlsson!

 

[dmarc]

Wouldn't mind seeing Marc Methot come back, we have absolutely no room on the left side and he can probably barely play at this point. But he was such an awesome Senator. Heck even if he's LTIR for most of the year but is around the guys it's worth it.

Then if he wants to he can transition to a role within the org. I unno if he wanted to be here I'd be welcome to making it work somehow.

 

[topshelf15]

Watch Tkachuk,s older brother troll the Avs ,was fun...Hope our guy can do the same soon to team like the Leafs and Habs

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

EK....

I wouldn't be surprised. New York city is one hell of a nice place to live. Especially so when you have a lot of money and some fame. All the Rangers have to do is pull out the checkbook, and UFAs magically appear.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Wouldn't mind seeing Marc Methot come back, we have absolutely no room on the left side and he can probably barely play at this point. But he was such an awesome Senator. Heck even if he's LTIR for most of the year but is around the guys it's worth it.

Then if he wants to he can transition to a role within the org. I unno if he wanted to be here I'd be welcome to making it work somehow.

He would be a good signing if he's just brought in with the expectation that he'll fight for a bottom pair job and be a leader in the room, and if he somehow manages to get back to anywhere close to his former self, that's a bonus but not expected.

The issue is we don't really have many openings on defense because:
-As the days go by, judging by what has been said and the changed tone of the situation compared to last year, it seems more and more likely that Ceci will be re-signed.
-Garrioch reporting that he thinks the Sens see Brannstrom as NHL ready.
-Wolanin stepping up big to close out the year and establishing himself as a guy who should stick in the NHL.

This isn't really a depth chart, just a way to visualize it, but we have something like.....

Chabot-Demelo
Brannstrom-Ceci
Wolanin-Jaros
Harpur-Boro
Lajoie

That looks like a bit of a log jam to me. Which isn't a bad thing if it means guys have to compete for spots, but I don't think there's a need to bring in anybody short of a legitimate top 4 defender. We have so many guys who should play in the NHL, but most of them are question marks as far as what kind of NHLers they'll be at the start of next season.

I would not be opposed to trading Demelo if the return was really good. In a single year, he's gone from looking like a #7 defender on the Sharks to looking like a legitimate steadying #4 RD who can play on the top pair with Chabot when needed. I think management needs to figure out whether that is what Demelo actually is, or whether he just had a career year. If it's the latter, they should move him while his value is high (if it is high). If they think he is legitimate, they should extend him before the season so that he doesn't get a chance to further pad his resume.

 

[BondraTime]

Dobson is completely driving their offence for those that aren't actually watching him. He was on the ice for 6/8 of RN's goals in that 8-0 game where he got no points, 5 of those they don't get without him.

The amount of goals they scored because of him pushing the puck up the ice and making the right play is staggering.

All this while being by far the best defensive D the Q has seen in nearly 2 decades, and the best PP QB in the league

His offence is going to translate just like Ryan Suters

 

[dmarc]

He would be a good signing if he's just brought in with the expectation that he'll fight for a bottom pair job and be a leader in the room, and if he somehow manages to get back to anywhere close to his former self, that's a bonus but not expected.



I would not be opposed to trading Demelo if the return was really good. In a single year, he's gone from looking like a #7 defender on the Sharks to looking like a legitimate steadying #4 RD who can play on the top pair with Chabot when needed. I think management needs to figure out whether that is what Demelo actually is, or whether he just had a career year. If it's the latter, they should move him while his value is high (if it is high). If they think he is legitimate, they should extend him before the season so that he doesn't get a chance to further pad his resume.

Oh I agree that there really is no room for him, but he was so good for this team that I think it could be good to have him around for the young group.

If we're trading a RD I trade Ceci 100x over DeMelo. Now Ceci isn't getting traded but if DeMelo is decent like he was this year I doubt it costs a lot to keep him around. Would rather bet on him than Ceci. They are the same age after all

Anyways I don't think our defense needs a ton of tinkering, heck I don't even care if Ceci is there next year (beyond that urghh) Happy for tank mode next year, just think a good solid vet and pro like Methot could be good for the Sens

 

[coladin]

I like Acciari on our fourth line. Physical and can skate. That could be a great signing for this team.

 

[HSF]

Did I miss something? Is NYI shopping Dobson? They didn't want to move him for Stone or Duchene aka they think he is untouchable

 

[BondraTime]

Did I miss something? Is NYI shopping Dobson? They didn't want to move him for Stone or Duchene aka they think he is untouchable

No they aren't, zero chance he's moved

 

[Clayonator]

Any of Eberle/Zuccarello/Johansson would be awesome.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Lets sign Jagr



He'd probably be absolutely terrible on the ice but he'd be an awesome influence on our young guys