Trade Rumors and Proposals X: Any day now Edition

[CanadienShark]

And this is why typing with a migraine is a bad idea.

Don't worry, we're all waiting for you to make another mistake so we can jump on it.

I think he was talking about Gary Lupul, old center of the Canucks in the 80's

Blast.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Lupus situation with the Leaf is earily similar to Gomez with NYR.
He is useless. They want to get rid of him. They would be happy to receive a 7th pick for him.
Do no touch this guy!

How is it even remotely similar? We're not trading Beaulieu for Lupul.

Just for you CS.

 

[Habs Icing]

We need to score goals, and we need a RW to do so. Nobody here wants to give anything of any value up, so obviously our options are limited. In terms of those limited options, I think we could do a lot worse than Lupul.

Didn't you hear, Therrien - not Bergevin but Therrien - made a trade. He traded Chucky Galchenyuk the left winger for Alex Galchenyuk the right winger.

 

[danyhabsfan]

The most I'd offer is PAP Thomas for Lupul (4M cap hit)

 

[t0ny]

Yeah i can't see MB taking on Lupul contract and injuries history... will be more than disappointing if he finally do so.
This is TML bringing Habs into the conversation to drive the price up i guess...

 

[Saundies]

Didn't you hear, Therrien - not Bergevin but Therrien - made a trade. He traded Chucky Galchenyuk the left winger for Alex Galchenyuk the right winger.

Oh no.. Chucky Galchenyuk was my favorite! But I've heard good things about Alex as well

But no, I don't know if this move is going to pay off or not. Playing your off-wing works for some wingers, but I don't know if AG uses his shot enough to truly be effective on the RW. I think this is a stopgap until Bergevin acquires a more permanent option.

Watch, last year's Vanek trade will just be a flash in the pan and we're gonna do absolutely nothing at the deadline. It's happened before and could very well happen again.

 

[TT1]

if the leafs retain 1M of his salary i'd move PAP + 3rd or 4th for him. moving a 2nd would be a deal breaker for me.

 

[Habs Icing]

If this rumour that the Pens & Bruins are also involved in trade discussions for Lupul, then my guess is we have nothing to worry about. Bergevin is one big cheapskate - cheapskate in a good way. He has shown that he will not come out in the short end of any trade. He's always looking to come out with the winning combination.

 

[Jeffrey]

How is it even remotely similar? We're not trading Beaulieu for Lupul.

Just for you CS.

NYR wanted to get rid of Gomez at all cost to sign Gaborik.

Nobody wanted his contract except the habs... And if they really wanted him thy could have got him for a conditional pick.

Lupul is worth nothing.

 

[De Montreal]

A trade will go down any minute now.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I know some will balk at this, but what if we package our 1st + pieces + PAP to the Leafs for salary retained on Lupul and Winnik? I know that seems like a steep price, but it address our needs in one fell swoop. Not to mention there have been a few reports claiming the draft really tempers off at 20-30, and we're going to be drafting quite late.

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Lupul
Galchenyuk - Plekanec - Gallagher
Winnik - Eller - Sekac
Prust - De La Rose - Weise
Malhotra

Markov - Subban
Beaulieu - Gonchar
Tinordi - Gilbert/Emelin

 

[Natey]

My mistake. I miss capgeek (by the way, any good alternatives?).

nhlnumbers.com

 

[Jeffrey]

I would rather keep the pick and let TT do his magic than to be stuck with deadwood longterm for a playoff push.
Our core his young guys we could contend for 10 years if we don't handcuff ourselves

 

[lo striver]

A trade will go down any minute now.

imminent. not sure if I like it or not.

 

[t0ny]

I know some will balk at this, but what if we package our 1st + pieces + PAP to the Leafs for salary retained on Lupul and Winnik? I know that seems like a steep price, but it address our needs in one fell swoop. Not to mention there have been a few reports claiming the draft really tempers off at 20-30, and we're going to be drafting quite late.

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Lupul
Galchenyuk - Plekanec - Gallagher
Winnik - Eller - Sekac
Prust - De La Rose - Weise
Malhotra

Markov - Subban
Beaulieu - Gonchar
Tinordi - Gilbert/Emelin

I respectfully prefer standing pat than use those assets on Lupul/Winnik. This deal would not put us over the top this year...

 

[waffledave]

Sekac traded to the ducks

 

[Blind Gardien]

I respectfully prefer standing pat than use those assets on Lupul/Winnik. This deal would not put us over the top this year...

Agreed... there is no way I part with our 1st for these kinds of players. They might be useful pickups... or they might not (Lupul could get hurt again, Winnik could be just another generic grinder for us)... but 1st rounders are you best chance at getting long-term core players. Even late ones. If I was trading my 1st, it would have to involve a no-risk player coming back. Lupul is has too much risk with his injury history and contract, and Winnik is just not good enough.

I think Bergevin is on the same page, he already showed that with the Vanek scenario last year.

 

[Kriss E]

I hate how posters here turn into Captain Hindsight when a move works out well for a team, like it was the most obvious move ever. People last year were saying the exact same things about Gaborik, about how he was a band-aid and he was washed up compared to those 40 goal seasons.. The Kings traded Matt Frattin, a second, and a 3rd for him.. Not exactly selling the farm. The Kings weren't "true" cup contenders last year. Yes, they had won a cup recently but they had a substandard regular season and nobody was picking them to come out of the West.

We need to score goals, and we need a RW to do so. Nobody here wants to give anything of any value up, so obviously our options are limited. In terms of those limited options, I think we could do a lot worse than Lupul.

Hindsight? I'm not using hindsight, I didn't even comment on how successful he was.
Nothing I said was wrong. They are facts. Gaborik is a 35 career avg scorer and was one of the best goal scorers in the NHL at some point, he had scored 40 goals+ two years before. Lupul's success is 22-25goals. Two very different players to take risks on. It has nothing to do with hindsight.

Not to mention, Gaborik was set to become a free agent. Lupul has a few more years at over 5M. Lupul isn't a bandaid. If it doesn't work out we're stuck with him for more years.

 

[bsl]

Sekac traded to the ducks

Why would you write this?

 

[waffledave]

Why would you write this?

Cause it's true. For Devante Smith-Pelly.

 

[Scuba-Steve]

A trade will go down any minute now.

You called the Sekac-DSP trade... should i put this on luck?

 

[groovejuice]

nhlnumbers.com

It's a substitute, but I much preferred Cap Geek.

They were really tops with contracts and cap space. I miss it.

 

[Stone Cutter]

A trade will go down any minute now.

Luck or connection?

 

[Dwight]

You know, the more I think about it, the more down I am for Joffrey Lupus on the Habs IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.

I trust MB to back out if the bidding war goes too high.

 

[Draft]

Trading for DSP gives the Habs the option of acquiring a LW, a position that is much easier to fill IMO.