Who knows, there could be things going on behind the scenes that has one or both parties looking to turn the page. I think the Oilers learned a lesson last season about how important the dressing atmosphere and team bonding can impact the on-ice performance (to be clear, I'm not saying Eberle is a problem. Instead, I'm pointing out that on-ice value remains only part of the equation).
Duclair doesnt seem to be a good enough player for a 1/1 maybe pieces added to get DeAngelo?
Hmmm...
Duclair fits the bill, as does Grigorenko...
Reilly Smith has been on a couple teams, and saw his best year in Boston...
Honestly outside of the 'couple different teams' thing, he's describing Brendan Gallagher to a T.
If you are going by Stauffer's hints it won't be as he has only been on one team.Better not be Strome. Not convinced he's a top6 player and our bottom 6 is pretty set on RW (Kass, Slepy, Pulju). I'd rather trade Eberle for picks and sign Williams/Vanek or even Vrbata/Jagr
Hmmm...
Duclair fits the bill, as does Grigorenko...
Reilly Smith has been on a couple teams, and saw his best year in Boston...
Honestly outside of the 'couple different teams' thing, he's describing Brendan Gallagher to a T.
Buffalo has a few guys that fit the bill.
Did he say if it would be a forward?
I may have missed exactly what he said, because I was driving, but Bob dropped a long winded series of hints of the player who might be returned for Eberle. Here are the pieces I heard:
- The guy will be protected from the expansion draft
- The guy is cheaper than Eberle
- The guy has been on a few teams
- The guy is coming off a down year
- The guy has good offensive potential
- (This one I think I misheard) The guy has achieved good numbers at some point
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but that's about what I got from his clues.
I think when SootheSayer listened to it again he took out the 'couple different teams' thing.
Gallagher doesn't play anywhere the same type of game as Eberle does.
Guys that fit that "high skill, no grit" type of game:
Duclair
Grigorenko
Strome
And a few others.
Ideally, Tyler Toffoli.
Can't wait to trade Eberle for a player who is objectively worse in basically every way and doesn't actually bring any sort of different dynamic to the team.
Chia should be barred from trading with the Islanders. Garth Snow manages to be a terrible GM at everything he does except when he deals with Chiarelli. In which case Chia inevitably gets bent over, thanks Snow for the pipe cleaning and comes back for more a year or two later.
This summer it will be Ryan Strome. In a year or two we'll go out of our way to acquire Dal Colle after he's played his way out of the Islanders organization.
Can't wait to trade Eberle for a player who is objectively worse in basically every way and doesn't actually bring any sort of different dynamic to the team.
Chia should be barred from trading with the Islanders. Garth Snow manages to be a terrible GM at everything he does except when he deals with Chiarelli. In which case Chia inevitably gets taken behind the shed and comes back for more later.
This summer it will be Ryan Strome. In a year or two we'll go out of our way to acquire Dal Colle after he's played his way out of the Islanders organization.
You do realize if we take a good D back we will not need to resign Russell at 4 million . So if take back a 5 million D man . We eliminate 1 million from Eberle and going with last years number 3.1 from Russell that is 4.1 million . That is enough cap space for Draisaitl raise . With Bonuses Draisaitl made 3.6 so it lets us sign him to a 7.7 million dollar deal while keeping all 19 million of our cap space . Spend another 2 on resigning a couple of our RFA . It also lets us sign a couple of UFA wingers . If we spent 9 million on the mention players it leaves 10 million for McDavid on top of his 3.6 million . I don't think it takes 13.6 to sign McDavid . With this we aren't even taking into account Vegas . If we can pay them to take Pouliot that is another 4 million .
This is the year Chia needs to make moves . Vegas coming in opens up 23 new jobs for players . We also don't have our backs against the wall . If Chia waits until next year and we really need the cap space teams are going to want to screw us
If it is Ryan Strome, there is going to be more to this deal. The Islanders don't have the cap space to take Eberle's hit on entirely.
It's far from done at this point, but honestly, what do you expect Chiarelli to get for him? We need a cheaper player.
To be honest, when I was listening to the segment I didn't hear anything about the 'couple different teams' thing either.
In theory, yes.
But you need to ask yourself how good of a defenseman you can return for him. The answer to that question is 'Probably not very good.' Or 'Probably pretty expensive.' Or 'Probably not much better than Kris Russell.' So now the question you need to ask yourself is 'Why the hell did I just **** away the return on Jordan Eberle for something I pretty much already had?'
It's a matter of asset management as well as cap management.
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Also sidebar - who here knew Gabriel Landeskog had 33 points last season? Woof. He got outscored by Mark Letestu.
The forwards listed above (Strome, Grigs, Duclair) are of the Cagguila/Slepyshev level tho. Bottom 6 skill guys, 25-30 points. Can also find these guys in UFA
We have this tendency on here to over-rate certain players based on small sample sizes. Slepyshev and Caggiula are a couple of them--Pitlick another. The first two had a phenomenal playoffs. But prepare to see some of them turn into pumpkins next year--a childhood reference if it goes over your head...
Caggiula put up 18 points last year, Slepyshev 10. Strome is the same frigging age as both of them and he has a 50 point season under his belt.
Come on, people. Common sense.