Trade Rumors and Proposal Thread
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Alchemy
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Agreed. With that said i think Drouin is going to be good but there will be pressure playing for the hometown French Canadians.
Actually it's the best possible place he could have gone. The pressure on him will be to grow up, shut up and play. I think he will be a star there if they can find him a center.
Striiker
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Drouin shouldn't have his scoring discounted just because he scores a lot on the PP, the points are worth the same, but it does lower his value to the Flyers specifically because we have a greater need for additional 5v5 scoring than we need extra PP scoring.
I'd take Drouin hands down. We can replace Ghost within the pipeline. Drouin can score when the going gets tough. We don't have anyone like that. Maybe TK grows into that or nico if we draft him.
The Madrigal
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Yzerman got absolutely owned in that deal. They might win the trade down the line if Sergachev becomes everything he is supposed to be. However, as of June 15th, 2017 Tampa should have been able to get way more for Drouin than a prospect and a 2nd round pick. I wouldn't have batted an eye at giving up Sanheim and a 2nd rounder for Drouin though I would imagine Tampa would have preferred Sergachev. Drouin is going to be a perennial 70 point winger and have the type of impact a guy like Johnny Hockey has from the wing position.
FLYguy3911
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Gonna be tough for Sergachev to be a top pair guy with that Hedman guy there. He can play the right side at the junior level, but there aren't many examples of top defensemen in the NHL that play their off-side.
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deadhead
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Why. They didn't get a "prospect," they got the 9th pick who's made solid progress (i.e., he's still 9th pick value).
Drouin took four years to break out and he's still an average ES player, his strength is PP, he doesn't even play PK. That's not the profile of an elite 1st line winger. Yes, he'll be a 60+ scorer, including PP, in his peak years, but he'll also be the kind of winger whose line gives up 5-10 more goals than they should.
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Lol.
How did Yzerman get robbed if he might win the trade down the line?
If Drouin was going to have a Gaudreau level impact, he would have had it by now.
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And the sense of entitlement and trade demands had nothing to do with his value? C'mon man.
Yzerman held on to him for dear life trying to let that stench dissipate and fighting off the vultures. He did good with what he had. Drouins actions cost him in trade value...not Yzerman
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bauer
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very premature to say that. he doesn't exactly have a Stamkos at center to play with anymore. Habs have no centers and very little offensive depth overall. he's not as skilled as Patrick Kane to put up numbers like that on his own. i see him being in the same range as Schenn. a 55-60 point winger who's a PP specialist.
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Odd you rip on Mason for his "crappy entitled attitude", yet are in love with Drouin who REALLY has displayed this exact attitude.
The Madrigal
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Try reading the content of what I said and don't just look at who posted it and I am sure it won't be too difficult to understand the point I was getting at.
Drouin just turned 22 years old, to say that he can't get better and become a consistent 70 point winger at this point in his career is completely ridiculous.
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Friedman speculating that the Flyers were close to getting Drouin last year. Didn't mention if they were in the hunt this time
I believe it shows that we are in the hunt for a young offensive player. Makes sense if we continue to target them. I'm pretty sure we won't give up one of our big defensive prospects if it's not a young budding talent like Drouin coming back.
I believe it shows that we are in the hunt for a young offensive player. Makes sense if we continue to target them. I'm pretty sure we won't give up one of our big defensive prospects if it's not a young budding talent like Drouin coming back.
The Madrigal
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Mason is a 29 year old veteran player. Drouin has definitely showed some immaturity and attitude concerns but he has done so as a 20-22 year old kid. Mason is who he is at this point. Drouin still has time to mature and get his act together the same way Tyler Seguin did after being shipped out of Boston. I don't love Drouin either, I just think he has a great chance to develop into a perennial 70 point winger over the next couple of years and would have been a nice addition for the Flyers.
Striiker
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Getting the 2nd overall pick probably changed the focus. Don't need to give up anything to get a future top scorer anymore.
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With Lindblom and #2, plus Konency and Rubtsov, along with the veteran core (you know, guys who score 20+ goals a year like Simmonds and Schenn), there's no urgency to add scoring at this point.
If a 50+ a year two way young LW comes available for the right price, jump on it, but no need to add scoring just to say you did.
If a 50+ a year two way young LW comes available for the right price, jump on it, but no need to add scoring just to say you did.
Haha seriously. He turned 22 in the final weeks of the season and he should have peaked?
Yeah I take Ghost easily and never even think twice about it.
Drouin is a basketcase and mentally soft. I don't think he even finishes that contract out with Montreal. He'll force his way out if he gets treated like Subban and Galchenyuk did.
https://www.fanragsports.com/news/friedman-looks-drouin-sergachev-trade/
----NHL Insider Elliotte Friedman had a TV hit on NHL Network on Thursday afternoon before Marc
Bergevin’s trade press conference, and dropped a few worthwhile mentions while examining the deal.
“It was believed that Montreal had some interest in (Drouin) about a year ago when he went through his holdout with the Tampa Bay Lightning, that he was a guy Montreal looked at,†reflected Friedman. “I think Philadelphia was a team that was pretty close to getting him, but Montreal was in the bid. And I think he’s a guy the Canadiens have had some interest in for awhile.
Hmmm, if we were close, I wonder what Hextall was giving up to the Lightning considering their main need was a young defenseman and they ended up with one of the best defensive prospects in hockey.
Think that settles the debate if he is willing to move one of the prospects.
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