Rumor: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXVI: G Staying Put.

NYR Viper · Feb 28, 2014

Raspewtin said:
Don't know if I'm alone, but Buffalo abused St. Louis in that trade. They gave up a lot for two rentals. Is this an indication of what the market is like? Miller is a UFA goalie, and Ott is a UFA bottom 6 forward. A B level prospect, two picks, a roster player, and a starting goaltender. That's a very nice haul. Halak and Stewart can easily be turned into picks, too.

Carrier + 1st + 2nd would probably be fair market value for Miller. I think that was an insane overpayment.

Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

GregSirico · Feb 28, 2014

I Eat Crow said:
Well, what is Stralman really? Do we all agree that he's a solid, top 4 defenseman that can log 15-20 minutes a night? One that is good positionally and hardly makes mistakes at that. However, offense has seemingly taken a step back.

Secondly, what would we want back for him? Is he worth a Vatanen or blue chip offensive prospect? I think his value is just shy of that.

I think he's worth Vatanen. That would be a fair deal, especially if ANA can lock up Stralman.

Clown Fiesta · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

Because we're not in 30th place?

GregSirico · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

Why can't Sather do what? Rebuild? Because we are a Cup contender.

RGY · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

Umm....because Buffalo has been a **** show and the Rangers are 2nd in the Metropolitan while starting to create some separation and establishing themselves as a legitimate team? I dont know...that could be it.

Infinitum Vitae* · Feb 28, 2014

jerseyjinx94 said:
Dude, I'm with you.

Count me in to

GregSirico · Feb 28, 2014

barbara underhill said:
because we're not in 30th place?

bingo!!!!

Hire Sather · Feb 28, 2014

haohmaru said:
No reason for Buffalo to trade for a rental.

Thought I've read that Buffalo would be willing to pay him

jskramer83 · Feb 28, 2014

BrooklynRangersFan said:
Absolutely not. I would have been all-in for that move (as I was).

Now, the subsequent Zubov and Kovalev trades on the other hand...

The Zubov move may have been one of the greatest long term deals in NHL history. Hell we still have someone from that deal on our bench!!

Raspewtin · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

Buffalo is doing a tremendous job with their rebuild.

Why should Sather do this? This team doesn't need to go anywhere near the extremes Buffalo is going to.

LaffyTaffyNYR · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

as said multiple times.. because the Rangers signed Lundqvist to win now and not 4 yeas from now.

NYR Viper · Feb 28, 2014

I Eat Crow said:
Well, what is Stralman really? Do we all agree that he's a solid, top 4 defenseman that can log 15-20 minutes a night? One that is good positionally and hardly makes mistakes at that. However, offense has seemingly taken a step back.

Secondly, what would we want back for him? Is he worth a Vatanen or blue chip offensive prospect? I think his value is just shy of that.

I think he'd return Vatanen possibly. With Girardi here Stralman is a bit more available.

Does Detroit want a RD? Sproul.

NernieBichols · Feb 28, 2014

Lundsanity30 said:
which Kesler hasn't been anymore.

Yeah that's kinda my feeling on. Thats what I said the first time Kesler was brought up a few days ago,

But again just going on what Dagoon said,

one east coast team
one canadian team
two major trades.

I think kesler/st. louis

EDIT: i was kinda just having fun with Dagoons post. Playing the guessing game like we did with the St. Louis rumor. I think people read certain posts based upon when they jumped into the thread and don't know the basis behind it, if that is someone's beliefs or views, or if they are just throwing it out there as a hypothetical. I understand how that would happen. thats the nature of posting little blurts as a thought hits your brain instead of writing everything you have to say into one post so that people see it in its entirety, but people should be aware of this and stop jumping to conclusions. Most of you guys have been on this board long enough to know things get misinterpreted by not knowing what someone said before what you read they said.

TheTakedown · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

I think it falls on the fact that Garth snow was desperate enough to fill out his team with offense that he didn't really need (see the Penguins of 12-13), instead of focusing on his defense or goaltending (hard to address both with just Moulson as your trade chip). He should be let go after a move like that.

Buffalo fleeced them, and that was only because Snow thought one more winger would put them over the top, even though they were scoring 3+ goals per game, sometimes 4...

NYR Viper · Feb 28, 2014

Raspewtin said:
Buffalo is doing a tremendous job with their rebuild.

Why should Sather do this? This team doesn't need to go anywhere near the extremes Buffalo is going to.

Everyone missed the point. Do you see how he maximized his assets and filled their holes immediately?

LaffyTaffyNYR · Feb 28, 2014

if the Rangers were the Sabres they could come up with 10,000 picks too..

Jackpot · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

Guess he wants to win more than 20 games? Other than that...?

NernieBichols · Feb 28, 2014

GregSirico said:
That trade would NOT make them a better team.

Im not a big believer in Nash come crunch time. If I could get equal value for him, I would trade him. Im not a rush to trade him, but if I can get equal value and it fills a need on the team, I would move him.

haohmaru · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

Because the Rangers aren't in the basement in the East like the Sabres are? They've been the 2nd best team in the East for quite a while now.

Bleed Ranger Blue · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Buffalo is running this incredibly smartly.

Vanek for Moulson + 1st. Use Moulson to get more.

Miller + Ott for Stewart + Halak + prospect + picks. Flip Halak and Stewart for more picks.

Why can't Sather do this?

Not so sure Buffalo spins the principles off, thats a nice return of NHL talent as well.

GregSirico · Feb 28, 2014

If you guys really think we stink that bad? Trade everyone ... Hank, Nash, Mac, Staal ... blow the whole thing up and start from scratch .. does that sound crazy? YES, well some of you guys are really going to the extreme. You act like we are a bottom dweller and we are one of the hottest teams in the league since Dec ... I hate to see what happens on a losing streak.

Jackpot · Feb 28, 2014

NYR Viper said:
Everyone missed the point. Do you see how he maximized his assets and filled their holes immediately?

Replaced Miller with Halak and Ott with Stewart.. Yep, I'm seeing it, just not liking it. Was I supposed to be?

Forgot, also replaced Vanek with Moulson.. Who's inevitably traded for another fill the gap guy and pick . Freeing up those pennies to spend on Cally... Sure he'll be thrilled playing wing on on line with scrub (A) as pick (B) develops for a few seasons..

itsPLkielbasa · Feb 28, 2014

Woah. Look at all the picks Buffalo has said the Oilers. Where are they with all of these 1st round picks? Cough, cough. :naughty:

Infinitum Vitae* · Feb 28, 2014

Lundsanity30 said:
if the Rangers were the Sabres they could come up with 10,000 picks too..

Sometimes all the picks in the world don't help you win ------> :edmonton

Punxrocknyc19* · Feb 28, 2014

how legit is this???

MARTIN ST. LOUIS MAY BE A RANGER THIS WEEKEND

NY would send Ryan Callahan, a depth forward or prospect and a 3rd round pick to Tampa Bay for Martin St. Louis. A conditional pick could come back to the Rangers if the Lightning re-sign Callahan or make it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

http://fulltiltnyr.com/martin-st-louis-may-ranger-weekend/

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