Speculation: Trade / Roster Speculation Thread XXXI: As the bell gently tolls...

[RGY]

Is he going to push us over the top though? At his age? I am not arguing that he can't be an excellent complimentary piece. But that would mean our window is this season and next imo.

I don't see us competing this playoff. I still think we have a few holes that need to be addressed for the next.

But if you can get him now, you do it...regardless of how you see the team this year. He will be here next year too and potentially a 3rd and 4th year on 1-year deals. Then you go find a top center or develop one.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Who doesn't put us over the top, plays a position where we don't need help and has a shelf life of, what, 2-3 years? Brilliant.

I really wonder how many of the folks who are rabid to get MSL have been fans for more than 10 years...

I understand this point of view. I just feel like - there are only so many elite players in the game. If it comes down to 3pm, and Tampa is saying here, you can have Marty for Kristo, a 1st, and a 3rd, I would have a tough time not caving and giving up the 1st.

I do agree that in the past, we have been burned by similar deals. I don't agree that that necessarily means we will be burned by this one. And again, you don't want Callahan signed, right? If we get St. Louis, and recoup some of the assets we gave up by trading Callahan, would you not be happy? The odds of Kristo, a 1st, and a 3rd, ever combining to be nearly as valuable as St. Louis will be the next 3 years are extraordinarily small.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Trading multiple futures for a 38 year old. There's the rangers I know and hate

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

Trading multiple futures for a 38 year old. There's the rangers I know and hate

MSL>>>>> cally at 6.3x6

 

[Ardi44]

I understand this point of view. I just feel like - there are only so many elite players in the game. If it comes down to 3pm, and Tampa is saying here, you can have Marty for Kristo, a 1st, and a 3rd, I would have a tough time not caving and giving up the 1st.

I do agree that in the past, we have been burned by similar deals. I don't agree that that necessarily means we will be burned by this one. And again, you don't want Callahan signed, right? If we get St. Louis, and recoup some of the assets we gave up by trading Callahan, would you not be happy? The odds of Kristo, a 1st, and a 3rd, ever combining to be nearly as valuable as St. Louis will be the next 3 years are extraordinarily small.

Agreed 100%. If you dont have to trade any of the D prospects and maybe have to throw in Hagelin, the deal has to be made. Cant miss on an elite scorer. With the emergence of MZA, hagelin has become redundant in my opinion

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

I understand this point of view. I just feel like - there are only so many elite players in the game. If it comes down to 3pm, and Tampa is saying here, you can have Marty for Kristo, a 1st, and a 3rd, I would have a tough time not caving and giving up the 1st.

I do agree that in the past, we have been burned by similar deals. I don't agree that that necessarily means we will be burned by this one. And again, you don't want Callahan signed, right? If we get St. Louis, and recoup some of the assets we gave up by trading Callahan, would you not be happy? The odds of Kristo, a 1st, and a 3rd, ever combining to be nearly as valuable as St. Louis will be the next 3 years are extraordinarily small.

Completely agree with you..that being said...I'm a huge MSL fan

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

But if you can get him now, you do it...regardless of how you see the team this year. He will be here next year too and potentially a 3rd and 4th year on 1-year deals. Then you go find a top center or develop one.

I guess it depends on what we are giving. But if its a huge package of young players(I would bet it is); I don't know how that helps the Rangers.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Has it not been reported and discussed that that gap keeps narrowing?

No. I believe it was reported last night that the Rangers and Callahan were no close to a contract than they were Tuesday morning. they are $500K apart per year, about $3M, and neither side seems to be budging.

Also - it's not just $. It's the NMC.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/04/trading-day-may-be-here-for-callahan-rangers/

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

Agreed 100%. If you dont have to trade any of the D prospects and maybe have to throw in Hagelin, the deal has to be made. Cant miss on an elite scorer. With the emergence of MZA, hagelin has become redundant in my opinion

Also maybe MSL can mentor MZA and help him get even better

 

[aroundtheriver]

MSL>>>>> cally at 6.3x6

+1

If Sather trades MZA for MSL, I'm turning into a Devils fan.




Okay, maybe not. But no, don't do it. Walk away from the phone...

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

MSL>>>>> cally at 6.3x6

That I will agree with.

 

[E-Train]

Status quo. Get Jimmy Boy his 6 or 7 home playoff dates, rinse and repeat. MSL will make them more dangerous not doubt, will not prevent another exit at the hands of the Bruins or Pens.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

MSL>>>>> cally at 6.3x6

In supposed to be content with the best of bad ideas?

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Trading multiple futures for a 38 year old. There's the rangers I know and hate

Well at least you got his age correct. Most others are calling him a 39 year old.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Trading multiple futures for a 38 year old. There's the rangers I know and hate

If they trade that again and I read that apparently slats and co added in a first... This team will be even worse in 3 years

 

[jerseyjinx94]

FYI - St. Louis has more assists than Nash has points. Just sayin'

 

[Ail]

WTF TSN just showed an MSL montage to some song that went, "Help is onnnn the wayyyy."

...





Foreshadowing.

 

[Traderalways]

Thank god calley doesn't give in on the NMC... Doesn't he just realize at 6 million for 6 years it is ALREADY A GUARANTEED NO MOVEMENT CLAUSE!!! LOL

 

[JCrusher*]

Trading multiple futures for a 38 year old. There's the rangers I know and hate

I understand MSL is old BUT the guy is still a bigtime scorer and we need more offense. I mean right now zuccarello nash kreider and zuccarello pretty much carry the offense so we need another offensive weapon. I understand people love Callahan's heart but unfortunetly just heart alone wont help you win games especially for 6.3 million per year

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

FYI - St. Louis has more assists than Nash has points. Just sayin'

But MSL plays with stam.... oh wait

 

[Ail]

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper 5s
#Lightning ask from #Rangers remains extremely high 4 Marty St Louis. Probability is he finishes yr out in TB, Yzerman revisits @ #NHL draft

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

Status quo. Get Jimmy Boy his 6 or 7 home playoff dates, rinse and repeat. MSL will make them more dangerous not doubt, will not prevent another exit at the hands of the Bruins or Pens.

This

 

[JCrusher*]

Thank god calley doesn't give in on the NMC... Doesn't he just realize at 6 million for 6 years it is ALREADY A GUARANTEED NO MOVEMENT CLAUSE!!! LOL

Very true The only reason Buffalo would give him that money is because they have had a fire sale and have much cap space for even a bad contract

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

If they trade that again and I read that apparently slats and co added in a first... This team will be even worse in 3 years

and this..

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper 5s
#Lightning ask from #Rangers remains extremely high 4 Marty St Louis. Probability is he finishes yr out in TB, Yzerman revisits @ #NHL draft

That sucks. But yeah, their asking price should be high. Although it seems like Kypreos is just guessing here.