Speculation: Trade / Roster Speculation Thread XXXI: As the bell gently tolls...

[bubba5]

Maybe we can trade St Louis away for a 2015 first round pick in the next 2 hours!

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

First order of business:

BRB, I overstated Callahan's value as a rental by a 2015 1st round pick. I thought that St. Louis and a conditional 2nd/1st would get the deal done. The extra 1st next year hurts. It's the part of the deal that irks me the most. The part that was unexpected, for me.

So to you, and BRF, the 2 main devil's advocates to my argument, I eat crow. I placed more value on him than he had.

Second:

My thoughts on the deal -

As I said, the first in 2015 was unexpected and hurts the team. If there is a follow up for another 1st, I wouldn't mind. But as it stands, that's the part that bothers me the most. What made sense to me was Cally and a 2014 first.

However, I can't not be excited about MSL coming. I think he'll do wonders for Kreider, Stepan, Miller, Fast, Lindberg, Kristo, Duclair, Buchnevich - whoever comes up while he's here. He performs at a 1 ppg pace. It's hard to believe he'll dip under 65 points in any of the next 3.5 years (Which is the duration I expect him to stay at).

I think he'll sign comfortably, and I think 3.5 years fits with the period the F.O. believes we're going for it all.

Going for MSL makes sense to me. I'm excited for that. The first next year doesn't. My 0.02.

Very noble of you.

The value becomes even more out of whack with St. Louis demanding out and only willing to go to the Rangers.

 

[BBKers]

Go bonkers Glen

• Kesler for Stepan + Boyle
• Vatanen for Stralman
• Mark Stuart för Dorsett+

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($0.800m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
J.T. Miller ($0.894m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m)

DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
Mark Stuart ($1.700m) / Sami Vatanen ($0.785m)
John Moore ($0.840m) / Justin Falk ($0.975m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)

BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)

BURIED
Arron Asham ($0.075m)
Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2013-14 crunched using simulation date of 2014-03-05)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; BONUSES: $1,540,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $6,715,336

Hahaha

 

[17futurecap]

Should be a good last few hours with all of these forwards left.

 

[RGY]

Gaborik the first domino

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Very noble of you.

The value becomes even more out of whack with St. Louis demanding out and only willing to go to the Rangers.

Wouldn't call it noble. Unless you're being snide? I owed you the post.

I agree with your second part. Sather kinda bent over. Especially when we probably could have gotten MSL for the 2nd and 1st over the summer.

 

[GregSirico]

I still think Stralman might get moved.

 

[NYGBleedBlueNYR]

Longer this goes more desperate Buf & NYI become

 

[Dagoon44]

Gabby to the kings is done as i had at 8am

 

[Son of Steinbrenner]

Maybe we can trade St Louis away for a 2015 first round pick in the next 2 hours!

That's if St Louis waives his no trade clause....

 

[Let Blaine Die]

Wouldn't call it noble. Unless you're being snide? I owed you the post.

I agree with your second part. Sather kinda bent over. Especially when we probably could have gotten MSL for the 2nd and 1st over the summer.

Where's my free drink Rust? I've come to collect.

MSL probably would've cost a 2015 2nd and Kristo if we waited until the summer.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

I just worry that this trade is just the latest "one player away" move.

Should St. Louis improve the team? Offensively he should. But the team is now older, smaller and softer. I still don't see who is the finisher is for MSL (unless Nash or MSL is going to switch wings). They still lack consistently down the middle.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Gabby to the kings is done as i had at 8am

Ha, you're ridiculous man. You're saying you broke this trade?

 

[shoves]

Haha, i would love if we could find someway to make a spot for Gaborik and acquire him this summer. If Kings dont resign him, ofc.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Where's my free drink Rust? I've come to collect.

MSL probably would've cost a 2015 2nd and Kristo if we waited until the summer.

I said drinks at City Side, MCP. That's in Brighton, MA. Let me know if you're in the neighborhood and you'll get your free drink.

Also, don't murder me.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Maybe we can trade St Louis away for a 2015 first round pick in the next 2 hours!

If we're ****ing terrible next year we lose a high first pick which obviously sucks, but I think we can get something close dangling MSL as a rental to the whole league.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Haha, i would love if we could find someway to make a spot for Gaborik and acquire him this summer. If Kings dont resign him, ofc.

Why? Hes cooked. And another RW?? Sheesh.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

If we're ****ing terrible next year we lose a high first pick which obviously sucks, but I think we can get something close dangling MSL as a rental to the whole league.

What a wonderful way to have a team grow and gel together.

 

[Jackpot]

Gabby to the kings is done as i had at 8am

MSL to NYR before Tampa played another game on home ice.. Thanks to Boomer and our NYR CSI team last week..

 

[Ian]

I just worry that this trade is just the latest "one player away" move.

Should St. Louis improve the team? Offensively he should. But the team is now older, smaller and softer. I still don't see who is the finisher is for MSL (unless Nash or MSL is going to switch wings). They still lack consistently down the middle.

To be fair, MSL's most common linemates this year have been Tyler Johnson and Ondrej Palat, two guys that are pretty far from world beaters, and it hasn't slowed him down too much.

 

[shoves]

Why? Hes cooked. And another RW?? Sheesh.

Because i love the man. Thats why. And im confident he will do real good with LA

 

[Son of Steinbrenner]

I just worry that this trade is just the latest "one player away" move.

Should St. Louis improve the team? Offensively he should. But the team is now older, smaller and softer. I still don't see who is the finisher is for MSL (unless Nash or MSL is going to switch wings). They still lack consistently down the middle.

Very legit points. My fear is St. Louis will move Zuccerello off the powerplay ala Shanny and Prucha. Still, the Rangers had to make that deal.

I think we are going to see another move today for size on the wing. My fear is we are going to see Hagelin moved before 3:00 for a winger with size.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Sather will have 1-2 more follow ups by 3.

We still lack:

1) Size
2) Solution to Stralman
3) Another guy to complement Richie-MSL.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

To be fair, MSL's most common linemates this year have been Tyler Johnson and Ondrej Palat, two guys that are pretty far from world beaters, and it hasn't slowed him down too much.

And the other stuff?

 

[GregSirico]

LOL Boomer on Twitter wants Keslers # ... said he will talk him into coming here and helping us up the middle.