Speculation: Trade Proposal Thread Ver 11

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Bourne Endeavor

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Could Beaulieu+ for Drouin make sense?

No.

For us, we lack any true up and coming defensemen. Tinordi is still a long shot, Pateryn isn't anything more than a bottom pairing guy and that's about it. Tampa, meanwhile, is likely going to try and offload a defenseman because they have too many. Hell, they have one playing on their fourth line.
 

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No.

For us, we lack any true up and coming defensemen. Tinordi is still a long shot, Pateryn isn't anything more than a bottom pairing guy and that's about it. Tampa, meanwhile, is likely going to try and offload a defenseman because they have too many. Hell, they have one playing on their fourth line.

Not entirely accurate.
 

BatVader

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I still say O'Reilly.
Offer up Eller, Andoghetto, (+)

Then Emelin, Fucale, (+) to Edmonton for Yaks.

Maybe a DD, DSP, (+) to Chicago for Sharp where we retain some of DD's salary
 

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Just bumped into Hextall and Chris Pryor at Trudeau airport. Nice guy. He was probably up here to catch some memorial cup action. I don't buy it though.

He was here to talk MB into trading him DD. I will whisper Desharnais into his ears as we leave the plane in Philly just to make sure the seed is well planted in his mind and he does everything in his power to pull off this bold move.
 

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Just bumped into Hextall and Chris Pryor at Trudeau airport. Nice guy. He was probably up here to catch some memorial cup action. I don't buy it though.

He was here to talk MB into trading him DD. I will whisper Desharnais into his ears as we leave the plane in Philly just to make sure the seed is well planted in his mind and he does everything in his power to pull off this bold move.

hell with the whisper in ears get some inception action going
 

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As an extension of that, when Jonathan Drouin was scratched in the playoffs in favour of Marchessault, some of the commentators in Toronto thought that he may have taken that personally. They even speculated that he might request a trade as all members at the top of his draft class (MacKinnon, Jones, Barkov, etc.) have been given their chance and he has not. Let's face it, if there is one area where Tampa has an embarrassment of riches, it's on offence.

Do you think that prying him out of Tampa might be possible (he is probably at his lowest value since the draft)? If so, what do you think it will cost?

I'd be happy to make an initial offer of Beaulieu and a first and see where that takes us (re-sign Petry and the loss is manageable).

Thoughts?

Thoughts? Yeah let's make Tampa, Habs biggest obstacle in the PO, even better next year with a young low cap hit potential no 2-3 D man who can already play, while Drouin takes 2-3 more years to develop. No thanks. If Tampa was in the west, fine.

Further, Drouin proposals seem to be based on the assumption that Chuckie will fail as a no 1 C. I do not like them for this reason. Every possible resource should be put into ensuring that Chucky, who already has far more experience than Drouin, develeops into that no 1 C next year. It is already one year too late.
 
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I think St. Louis should be the team Montreal should focus a deal with. They look to be in a cap crunch with Tarasenko needing a big pay day. Fantasyland, I'd love to see them go after Tarasenko with the option of an offer sheet, but more realistically, they have very good depth with skilled forwards (and young forwards) that we may be able to pry out a very good top 6 player to help them better fit under the cap.
Cap isn't really a problem for the Blues. They have about $14.5 million to work with this summer if you factor in the bonus cushion, and 7 players to sign. After Tarasenko ($7 million), Allen ($1.2 million), Bortuzzo ($1.2 million), and Fabbri (~900k) they have about $4.2 million left to sign a depth defenseman and two depth forwards (4th liners/pressbox guys).

Nothing to worry about there.

Wouldn't surprise me if they moved someone for futures to open a top 9 slot for Fabbri, but it wouldn't be a strict cap dump per se.
 

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Cap isn't really a problem for the Blues. They have about $14.5 million to work with this summer if you factor in the bonus cushion, and 7 players to sign. After Tarasenko ($7 million), Allen ($1.2 million), Bortuzzo ($1.2 million), and Fabbri (~900k) they have about $4.2 million left to sign a depth defenseman and two depth forwards (4th liners/pressbox guys).

Nothing to worry about there.

Wouldn't surprise me if they moved someone for futures to open a top 9 slot for Fabbri, but it wouldn't be a strict cap dump per se.

Which is why I hope MTL goes after Oshie. Him moving would open up a spot. He also fills a huge need for us, and he has history and chemistry with Pacioretty
 

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Brad Stewart + Colorado 1st (10th OVA) in 2015 for Jarred Tinordi, Montreal's 1st in 2015 and Montreal's 1st in 2016.

Lets get some kickass pick!
 

ArtPeur

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Brad Stewart + Colorado 1st (10th OVA) in 2015 for Jarred Tinordi, Montreal's 1st in 2015 and Montreal's 1st in 2016.

Lets get some kickass pick!

Do we need Stuart though? He's getting old and has 2 more years on his contract... and even if we get a top10 pick this year, that guy won't likely make the team before at least 2 years.. not worth it, imo. I believe we need guys that can help us asap if we want a chance at a Cup run in the next 2 years.
 

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Oshie could be the perfect fit, however, I feel we lack the pieces to get him. MAYBE and I mean MAYBE something around Plekanec and prospects but I highly doubt it.
 

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Oshie could be the perfect fit, however, I feel we lack the pieces to get him. MAYBE and I mean MAYBE something around Plekanec and prospects but I highly doubt it.

9 points in 30 playoffs games.

He's not really that much of an upgrade over Plekanec, except for being younger.
 

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Do we need Stuart though? He's getting old and has 2 more years on his contract... and even if we get a top10 pick this year, that guy won't likely make the team before at least 2 years.. not worth it, imo. I believe we need guys that can help us asap if we want a chance at a Cup run in the next 2 years.

if Colorado was willing to make that deal and give us a top 10 pick....heck ya you do it
 

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Do we need Stuart though? He's getting old and has 2 more years on his contract... and even if we get a top10 pick this year, that guy won't likely make the team before at least 2 years.. not worth it, imo. I believe we need guys that can help us asap if we want a chance at a Cup run in the next 2 years.

Switch Stuart for O'Reilly
 

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Galchenyuk for Logan Couture straight up. Galchenyuk may have more potential than Couture in the long run, but other than that they hold similar value. We would take the risk of giving up potentially more future value in return for a more developed 1st line center hitting his prime to help us out right now. If Price, Subban, Pacioretty and Couture can't bring this team a cup I don't know what will.

That or we could do Plek+ for Thornton while signing Soderberg to fill the 2nd/3rd line center void if Chucky isn't going to be used at center.

Also like the idea of picking up Ladd to play as a 2nd line LW

Pacioretty-Couture-Gallagher
Ladd-Eller/Soderberg-Rookie
DLR-Eller/Soderberg-DSP
Prust-Mitchel-Weise

Beaulieu-Subban
Markov-Petry
Emelin-Gilbert
Tinordi-Pateryn

$$$

I think the Habs need to add, and I would happily do it. The basis of Couture for Galchenyuk could be perfect. Couture would hands down be our #1C in MTL and is much better than Galchenyuk now (and locked up long term to a good contract). For SJ, we get our potential gamebreaking #1C for when Thornton moves on.

You need both.
Other than McCarron, our fwd prospect pool is tiny.

Scherbak isn't small.
 
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Dannyhab

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I still say O'Reilly.
Offer up Eller, Andoghetto, (+)

Then Emelin, Fucale, (+) to Edmonton for Yaks.

Maybe a DD, DSP, (+) to Chicago for Sharp where we retain some of DD's salary


Yes! But instead of Eller you trade Pleks. Not sure if Chicago would go for the deal. Maybe DD + DSP + Tinordi for Sharp. All these trade are realistic and possible. Bergevin has a ton of options and I want to see a lineup like this:

Sharp-ROR-Gallagher
Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Yakupov
DLR-Eller-Kostityn
Prust-Mitchell-Weise

Markov-Subban
Beaulieu-Petry
Gilbert-Pateryn

Andrei Kostityn fights with the camp standouts for a spot on the team.
 

Monctonscout

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can we sign Kovalchuk from the KHL ? he would solve almost all our problems

I think he has to sit out a year to come back to the NHL due to his "retirement" stunt.

I would entertain the idea of trading Price.

The thinking behind it....

Price's value is the best on the team, by far. More than Subban. Price is the type of player that lands you a Malkin. Many teams have proven in the past that you can find good goalies on the trade market (Bishop with TP right now is an example...) so, even though you can't find another superstar goalie like Price, you can find one that will do the job. This team relies on Price way too much and not having him in the net anymore would force a change in the way they play the game. The return for Price would be tremendous... Price to Edmonton for Hall & Yakupov+ type of deal.


Umm, how about no.


there is no good reason to trade Price unless somebody offers something truly ridiculous like McDavid and Daisaitl...which will never happen.

Speaking of Draisaitl, he would be a great add if we can find a way to pry him out of Edmonton without trading one of our 4-5 core players. Fucale Emelin 1st Scherbak?

Agree with you in principle, but given the way these two work together, I see my scenario as more realistic. MB tries to get MT on board as much as possible; getting rid of DD for scraps, with no further impetus for doing so, fulfills our objectives as fans, but amounts to cutting off a limb for MT. I don't see it happening without some other catalyst.

How do they "work together", do facts not matter on this board?

1-Desharnais is playing less for Therrien than he did before MT took over
2-in order to move him and improve the team we would need TWO top 6 forwards coming in, that will be far from easy, and they can't be too expensive to fit under the cap AND retain Petry.

I proposed this in the general trade thread, and seems to be generally accepted as fair:

TO Montreal:
Hunter Smith

To Calgary:
Jarred Tinordi

We add some more size to our prospect pool (which we desperately lack).
Smith has been impressive imo in the mem. cup so far.
If we resign Petry, Tinordi can be moved imo.

Thoughts?

Smith should be a useful NHLer, but I think Tinordi can be more valuable. McCarron is already a better version of Smith.

You need both.
Other than McCarron, our fwd prospect pool is tiny.

Gregoire Carr Scherbak McCarron DLR Crisp Evans Bozon are all 6' or more.

I'd trade

Plekanec for Éric Gelinas & Steve Bernier

And

Sign Soderberg

I would sign Soderberg, but I don't see the point of trading Plekanec for a PP specialist and 3rd line W. That would be a pretty big step backwards.

Could Beaulieu+ for Drouin make sense?

I'm sure Drouin is untoucheable.

Berglund has been suggested for awhile. Not sure as to cost. Maybe Minnesota's 2nd next yr?

Why do we want another 3rd line center?

I still say O'Reilly.
Offer up Eller, Andoghetto, (+)

Then Emelin, Fucale, (+) to Edmonton for Yaks.

Maybe a DD, DSP, (+) to Chicago for Sharp where we retain some of DD's salary

O'reilly being a UFA makes it nearly impossible to trade for him. You have to trade major assets for him and then he might walk in a year? Pass.

I'd rather make no deals than make bad ones.
 

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I still say O'Reilly.
Offer up Eller, Andoghetto, (+)

Then Emelin, Fucale, (+) to Edmonton for Yaks.

Maybe a DD, DSP, (+) to Chicago for Sharp where we retain some of DD's salary

DD is awful player. No way Hawks would ever want him at any cost

Rather just waive Sharp and lose him for nothing then see DD on Hawks

Whenever he is attached to any deal IMO that kills all value nor do Hawks have ability to take any of DD awful salary going forward
 

The Nightman

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DD is awful player. No way Hawks would ever want him at any cost

Rather just waive Sharp and lose him for nothing then see DD on Hawks

Whenever he is attached to any deal IMO that kills all value nor do Hawks have ability to take any of DD awful salary going forward

I don't blame you, it would be a horrible trade.
 

Ezpz

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What was the last good move Bowman made? Get Frolik for free? Was that the only good trade in his entire tenure? He would absolutely take DD.
 

Ezpz

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