Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread- Bergervin Testing Trade Waters Per TSN

[LaP]

There is NEVER a legitimate reason to link to any Billy Joel music. If I was a mod, I would ban you permanently.

Only kinda joking . . .

 

[Runner77]

Tinordi, fucale+ Eller and a 2nd for johansen

Realistically, what can be had for any or a combo of Tinordi, Fucale, Gilbert, plus Eller and 2nd (which is technically a third given how late it will likely be)?

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Realistically, what can be had for any or a combo of Tinordi, Fucale, Gilbert, plus Eller and 2nd (which is technically a third given how late it will likely be)?

Any combo? Maybe Boedker, and that's not even using ALL the names included. We might have to turn that 2nd into a 1st, though.

I think I'd want to kick tires on Johansen before dealing our 1st round pick, though.

A 2nd and mid-level prospect might get us Vrbata, though. The options are out there. I just think Bergevin is looking to go big -- Johansen big.

 

[Brainiac]

I would. I mentioned him a couple weeks ago as a guy I would target. Voracek is another. Moving Eller, Tinordi, and a 1st +++. We have the pieces to pay that for a long term piece to the puzzle.

Cap wise, this would be a nightmare to manage down the road. Forget it. Bergevin likes a well-managed budget.

 

[LaP]

I would not touch Voracek. When you looks at his whole career he did not prove he can be a 70+ player on a semi-regular basis. He looks more like a 50-65 players than a 70-80+ players. At 8.25 millions that's a lot of money for 60-65 points. Some people complain about the 9 millions we give to pk and he is a 50-60 points dman ...

 

[Hackett]

To me Beaulieu has pretty much been playing like a top 4 recently, it remains to be seen if he can keep it up but I don't see the need to go spend assets on a guy like Hamuis. He'd be an upgrade over Emelin probably, but I'm not sure we need to increase our depth at D that much.

And while he may not cost a roster player, I doubt we'd get Hamuis for as cheap as we did Petry.

I like the idea of having an insurance policy for aging Markov in case he gets hurt or really slows down. I don't see beaulieu as that guy, and I certainly don't see emelin as that guy.

I know opinions vary on beaulieu but I just don't see how we can be comfortable with him at this stage of his career as a top guy or even a 2nd pairing guy in big playoff games.

My idea is hinging on the theory that bergy is ready to go for all the marbles. Otherwise, I don't even bring this idea up.

 

[Runner77]

Any combo? Maybe Boedker, and that's not even using ALL the names included. We might have to turn that 2nd into a 1st, though.

I think I'd want to kick tires on Johansen before dealing our 1st round pick, though.

A 2nd and mid-level prospect might get us Vrbata, though. The options are out there. I just think Bergevin is looking to go big -- Johansen big.

Is Boedker's relative affordability solely be a function of his contract ending this year? I take it they would rather hold on to him if they can get him to sign.

Why is Johansen even on the market -- thought teams built around players like him.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Is Boedker's relative affordability solely be a function of his contract ending this year? I take it they would rather hold on to him if they can get him to sign.

Why is Johansen even on the market -- thought teams built around players like him.

The general belief seems to be, at least from what I read a few weeks ago, can't remember where, that if Arizona is out of a playoff spot and Boedker isn't re-signed, they'd trade him. I don't know if it's true, but I would want in on that. Prime aged guy who can play either wing.

Torts hates Johansen, it seems.

 

[LaP]

Torts hates Johansen, it seems.

Torts hates a lot of people

Still can't believe they named him head coach.

 

[FireBurningBin]

Is Boedker's relative affordability solely be a function of his contract ending this year? I take it they would rather hold on to him if they can get him to sign.

He avoided arbitration to sign a 1 year deal this offseason. I think both parties are prepared to move on, although it's definitely not set in stone if Phoenix keeps winning (or at least stays in the mix).

 

[The Nightman]

Is Boedker's relative affordability solely be a function of his contract ending this year? I take it they would rather hold on to him if they can get him to sign.

Why is Johansen even on the market -- thought teams built around players like him.

He's probably not. He did have that contract holdout a couple of years ago and now apparently has fitness issues and might be in Tort's dog house. I watched their last game against SJS and he was relegated to the fourth line after the 1st period.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Tinordi, fucale+ Eller and a 2nd for johansen

Would be the most one sided trade, since Roy to the Avs, maybe more so.

 

[frapp10]

Would anyone do galchenyuk + 1st or scherbak for johansen? I think i would

 

[tooji]

realistically, if we aquired johansen where would we even put him? move him to 1C, pleky to wing on the second line and then keep chucky center? or move chucky back to the wing and make plecky the center on the 2nd line?

 

[DangerDave]

Is Boedker's relative affordability solely be a function of his contract ending this year? I take it they would rather hold on to him if they can get him to sign.

Why is Johansen even on the market -- thought teams built around players like him.

Well, his numbers have never been that impressive and he's not gonna resign with the Yotes so they'll likely trade him before the deadline. You have to remember that Arizona try to stay as close to the floor as they can and Boedker will likely ask 4.5M next year which I doubt they will want to pay him.

I've paid close attention to his play this year and I'm certain that given more offensively gifted players, he would be a 60pt guy. Best of all is that he's very good at both ends which MT would love.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Would anyone do galchenyuk + 1st or scherbak for johansen? I think i would

Yup, as long as we could talk to him about an extension first. I believe he is only RFA after his deal expires but I would first want to know if he held out because he kinda wanted out of CBJ, or if he wants to go somewhere specific/is just difficult.

 

[The Great Weal]

Can Johansen play rw?
Pacioretty-Chucky-Johansen

 

[Prairie Habs]

realistically, if we aquired johansen where would we even put him? move him to 1C, pleky to wing on the second line and then keep chucky center? or move chucky back to the wing and make plecky the center on the 2nd line?

Realistically Chucky would be involved in the trade and Johansen would take his spot.

 

[FF de Mars]

Tortorella demoted Johansen to the 4th line because he was out of shape and was dogging it, say the Colombus fans on the Trade boards. I'd still trade Galchenyuk + for Johansen, he's bigger and isn't as fancy (aka more like Therrien's style). If DSP can get into shape, so can Johansen, he just needs the right environment.

 

[Yoshidas Island]

Can Johansen play rw?
Pacioretty-Chucky-Johansen

To attain Johansen, Chucky is going back in the deal 110%.

 

[nyhabsfan]

I'd like Atkinson... true RW twice scored 20 goals and 40 points.
Speed, skill, fits our team.

I'd like to see a couple of kids like Getto be given a chance too

But

Eller---Galcheyuk---Atkinson

Intruiging

 

[Braun]

Everyone stop with Boedker...he is really overrated here.

 

[The Nightman]

Everyone stop with Boedker...he is really overrated here.

Just because you have no clue who he is, doesn't mean he's overrated.

 

[Wats]

Everyone stop with Boedker...he is really overrated here.

We should go after Tarasenko and Patrick Kane.

 

[ericd]

Emelin for Bickell straight-up