HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #79

[Boss Man Hughes]

The most they should offer is Petry, Dvorak and a 2nd.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Given the state of our RD I wouldn't be keen on moving Barron. Heck I'm even getting curious as to what can be done with Dach. At this point I'm convinced the hold up is for the Petry dossier and has nothing to do with PLD.

I'm convinced Hughes is sticking to his guns and unless he gets the value he wants, that Mr Petry will be suiting up for the bleu, blanc et rouge on October 12 and thereafter, and the onus will be on him to play well if he wants out of town.

 

[Rapala]

The most they should offer is Petry, Dvorak and a 2nd.

Yeah let the Jets do the heavy lifting on moving Petry to an American team.

 

[417]

will be pissed if they give up a 1st for PLD as part of a package.

Why? They have 2 1sts and Dubois is still in the right age range.

I'm less worried about giving up the first than I am what more could potentially be going there.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

The most they should offer is Petry, Dvorak and a 2nd.

Petry has a modified NMC. Winnipeg is absolutely on it.

 

[Destopcorner]

Flipping Dach for Dubois is a possibility now. He's the kind of controlled asset WIN crave for and fill a position of need. We'd have to add salary so...why not Gallagher? Locked long term, good for the room, leads by example... but of course overpaided. He's not negative value but it's close. Add a tendie ala Poeling/Ylonen/ or Florida's first and it's getting pretty good for PLD dimished value. Brisson help our cause sooo bad today, all hail to him

 

[Rapala]

Flipping Dach for Dubois is a possibility now. He's the kind of controlled asset WIN crave for and fill a position of need. We'd have to add salary so...why not Gallagher? Locked long term, good for the room, leads by example... but of course overpaided. He's not negative value but it's close which is why we'd have to add a tendie ala Poeling/Ylonen or Florida's first. Time to take advantage of PLD dimished value, all thanks to Pat !!!

I'm fairly certain the Jets fans reaction to that would be a finger down their throats.

 

[Destopcorner]

I'm fairly certain the Jets fans reaction to that would be a finger down their throats.

Sure, sad thing is they hold no leverage just like Trouba's trade. Just spitballing here, I still think something like Dvorak/Poehling/Flo 1st will get it done.

 

[Sebastien]

Sure, sad thing is they hold no leverage just like Trouba's trade. Just spitballing here, I still think something like Dvorak/Poehling/Flo 1st will get it done.

Um, no jets wouldn't do this. Nor would they trade him to Montreal. You don't know whether they have leverage or not because he never flat came out and said he wanted to leave for Montreal

 

[yianik]

If we want PLD that badly.

Anderson and Dach for PLD.

Problem is , how much is PLD looking for on a long term deal.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Canadiens will complete a trade next week. It just hasn't been announced yet.

 

[Rapala]

I'm convinced Hughes is sticking to his guns and unless he gets the value he wants, that Mr Petry will be suiting up for the bleu, blanc et rouge on October 12 and thereafter, and the onus will be on him to play well if he wants out of town.

I don't doubt it and yes we are under no obligation to move Petry. Hughes did talk publicly about wanting to get this done and it was conjectured to be close so he could be mulling over an offer. He has also shown to be a man of his word. But who knows maybe it's an update on Price.

 

[McPhees Moustache]

Flipping Dach for Dubois is a possibility now. He's the kind of controlled asset WIN crave for and fill a position of need. We'd have to add salary so...why not Gallagher? Locked long term, good for the room, leads by example... but of course overpaided. He's not negative value but it's close. Add a tendie ala Poeling/Ylonen/ or Florida's first and it's getting pretty good for PLD dimished value. Brisson help our cause sooo bad today, all hail to him

Gallagher is negative value - put him on waivers and guaranteed nobody claims him
I think a lot of teams would love to have him but he's paid at least 2M/year more than he's worth right now.
Maybe with a bounce back 20-25 goal season he could potentially become moveable again but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Rapala]

If we want PLD that badly.

Anderson and Dach for PLD.

Problem is , how much is PLD looking for on a long term deal.

If we were ever to trade for him that issue would have to be addressed before the transaction IMO.

 

[Runner77]

Petry has a modified NMC. Winnipeg is absolutely on it.

Has to be since he'd only accept a trade to a US city.

 

[jrom]

Um, no jets wouldn't do this. Nor would they trade him to Montreal. You don't know whether they have leverage or not because he never flat came out and said he wanted to leave for Montreal

Pierre-Luc Dubois voudrait jouer à Montréal, indique son agent - TVA Sports

Le nom de l’attaquant originaire des Sainte-Agathe-des-Monts a récemment été lié aux Canadiens de Montréal, mais qu’en est-il exactement?

www.tvasports.ca

 

[Destopcorner]

Um, no jets wouldn't do this. Nor would they trade him to Montreal. You don't know whether they have leverage or not because he never flat came out and said he wanted to leave for Montreal

Bitch please. Everybody and their mother knows he wants to come home so no team will go the extra mile for only 2 years of PLD. Just like Trouba and Fox case, the loved city always wins and it happens to be us for once.

 

[417]

Um, no jets wouldn't do this. Nor would they trade him to Montreal. You don't know whether they have leverage or not because he never flat came out and said he wanted to leave for Montreal

I read that his agent did...not sure if it's fake though.

Edit - so just read the article posted above...I don't think I've ever seen an agent explicitly mention a team his client wants to play for while he's under contract with another team.

Kinda wild...

 

[McPhees Moustache]

Pierre-Luc Dubois voudrait jouer à Montréal, indique son agent - TVA Sports

Le nom de l’attaquant originaire des Sainte-Agathe-des-Monts a récemment été lié aux Canadiens de Montréal, mais qu’en est-il exactement?

www.tvasports.ca

For the love of the rebuild please don't trade for PLD - at least not for another season.
Hold the course for one more year and re-visit next summer after the draft if necessary

Bitch please. Everybody and their mother knows he wants to come home so no team will go the extra mile for only 2 years of PLD. Just like Trouba and Fox case, the loved city always wins and it happens to be us for once.

And if that's the case we should be using it to our advantage and signing him as a free agent if we need him when the time comes.

 

[Paddy17]

Speculating here, which doesn't mean I would be endorsing a Dubois trade... if I was Hugues, I would indeed try to accommodate Petry by trading him to an American team, and the value I'm trying to get from that would go into the package for Dubois. Everyone knows by now that Montreal has leverage over Winnipeg, because they've spoken to Brisson and they know Dubois intends to come to MTL. Two trades are necessary to get Dubois, which could explain why it's so hard and has consumed so much of Hugues' time.

 

[Destopcorner]

For the love of the rebuild please don't trade for PLD - at least not for another season.
Hold the course for one more year and re-visit next summer after the draft if necessary


And if that's the case we should be using it to our advantage and signing him as a free agent if we need him when the time comes.

We will give significant assets in that trade and PLD won't impact next season defensive disaster. Difference between PLD and Dvorak/Andy/Dach whatever ain't big enough to save us from finishing bottom 10

 

[Paddy17]

I read that his agent did...not sure if it's fake though.

Edit - so just read the article posted above...I don't think I've ever seen an agent explicitly mention a team his client wants to play for while he's under contract with another team.

Kinda wild...

He's not under contract right now. He's an RFA, which means any team can speak to his agent and even offer sheet him.

 

[Kimota]

For the love of the rebuild please don't trade for PLD - at least not for another season.
Hold the course for one more year and re-visit next summer after the draft if necessary

I think Dubois is tired of waiting and wants to leave now, not play for the team he wants at 26 years old. But yea we cannot compete this year. Next year would be perfect. Him coming at 25 with one year left on his contract is ideal. At the same time, it would give us the time to shed salary.

 

[McPhees Moustache]

We will give significant assets in that trade which wont impact next season defensive disaster. Difference between PLD and Dvorak/Andy/Dach whatever ain't that big so it's all about the greater good.

To me it's giving away assets for free - if he really wants to be here he'll come in 2 years anyway. We're not winning a cup in those 2 years so why spend the assets.
As a side effect of him being here we would be better as well - not a playoff team but probably end up finishing a few spots higher therefore losing draft capital as well.
A large reason for the Rangers quick turnaround was taking advantage of players wanting to be there - Panarin signed as a UFA and Fox traded for 2 2nds as it was known he wouldn't go anywhere else.
Instead of trading the assets for PLD use them on something else we need (RD?) or more draft capital and get PLD for free if he still wants to be here in 2 years.

 

[417]

He's not under contract right now. He's an RFA, which means any team can speak to his agent and even offer sheet him.

Sure I guess I understand that technicality...but it's still rare, I don't think I ever recall that short of an offer-sheet situation.

If that's true...that kind of handcuffs the Jets if we presume that Dubois is not going to sign an extension with another team than Montreal. I wasn't paying too much attention to this Dubois saga, but these comments from his agent are giving me pause.