Proposal: Trade proposal: Blues-Wings

[Dominicr]

My god what was Detroit thinking when they gave abdelkader that dollar value and term along with a ntc?

 

[Dbrownss]

I really have a feeling about that kid. Watched him a few times. Hopefully he puts it together

You havnt watched him recently...he's been a scratch

 

[Dbrownss]

Cant wait for the Blues to get a goalie and still suck....then watch Allen go somewhere else and turn into a legit #1

 

[Blueston]

Mediocre goalie whom is playing far better then Allen, You mean.

That is a low bar.

 

[Colt55]

You havnt watched him recently...he's been a scratch

really he has been scartched. Is he hurt or poor play? I havent watched much hockey last 3 weeks to much going on.

 

[Dbrownss]

really he has been scartched. Is he hurt or poor play? I havent watched much hockey last 3 weeks to much going on.

No clue, but I'd have to guess he's crashed hard to get scratched in San Antonio

 

[Colt55]

No clue, but I'd have to guess he's crashed hard to get scratched in San Antonio

That sucks i really thought he played well during camp.

 

[Oddbob]

What are Detroit's organizational needs? Would something around Bouwmeester + Binnington + be enticing?

: Bouwmeester + Binnington + conditional pick

: Howard



(Lmao @ Kyrou)

Sorry but this is terrible. If that is all we get, we keep him. Bouwmeester is fading, Binnington isn't even a prospect really anymore and a conditional pick unless it is a first rounder is not exciting to say the least.

 

[stl76]

No clue, but I'd have to guess he's crashed hard to get scratched in San Antonio

Believe Walman has been injured.

Sorry but this is terrible. If that is all we get, we keep him. Bouwmeester is fading, Binnington isn't even a prospect really anymore and a conditional pick unless it is a first rounder is not exciting to say the least.

Ok, cool. What are the red wing's needs then so we can actually talk about addressing them? It's like pulling teeth to have an actual trade discussion.

Sometimes I wonder if people are too lazy to think up their own ideas or if they just enjoy poo-poo-ing other peoples'.

Younger players. Bouwmeester is just too old to be any sort of long term piece and goalie isn’t really a need. Young defenders or forwards with upside are probably the need. Guys with realistic too 6/top 4 potential. Or top 60 draft picks

Appreciate the response.

I was looking at the red wings goalie prospects and thought a legit AHL starter/unproven NHL backup like Binnington would be a good add for the organization. If he's not of interest or you don't think goalie is an organizational need, then fair enough.

Curious what you and other wings fans think Howard is realistically worth...personally, I think you'd be extremely lucky to get a top 60 pick or prospect with legit top6/4 potential. Just don't think the market is there for Howard at that price.

 

[simon IC]

Would Detroit fans be interested in a D prospect, like Walman or Perunovich?

 

[FissionFire]

Believe Walman has been injured.


Ok, cool. What are the red wing's needs then so we can actually talk about addressing them? It's like pulling teeth to have an actual trade discussion.

Sometimes I wonder if people are too lazy to think up their own ideas or if they just enjoy poo-poo-ing other peoples'.


Appreciate the response.

I was looking at the red wings goalie prospects and thought a legit AHL starter/unproven NHL backup like Binnington would be a good add for the organization. If he's not of interest or you don't think goalie is an organizational need, then fair enough.

Curious what you and other wings fans think Howard is realistically worth...personally, I think you'd be extremely lucky to get a top 60 pick or prospect with legit top6/4 potential. Just don't think the market is there for Howard at that price.

I think his trade threshold value assuming 50% retention is a top 60 pick (2nd rounder) or an equivalent valued prospect with the skill to potentially wind up in the top6/top4. I don’t think Holland pulls the trigger for less. He wouldn’t dump a UFA Green last deadline for what he considered poor value and just re-signed him instead. This is what will happen with Howard also by all appearances. I don’t think that price is wholly unrealistic either as Howard at 2.65M would have about 3-5 teams interested.

 

[Oddbob]

Ok, cool. What are the red wing's needs then so we can actually talk about addressing them? It's like pulling teeth to have an actual trade discussion.

Sometimes I wonder if people are too lazy to think up their own ideas or if they just enjoy poo-poo-ing other peoples'.

We ideally would like higher draft picks, or younger defenders who can move the puck, well really any good defenders would be nice. I don't think Howard will net us an impactful defender, so ideally I would like to see a 2nd rounder and a decent prospect in return, or a late 1st round pick.

 

[Colt55]

We ideally would like higher draft picks, or younger defenders who can move the puck, well really any good defenders would be nice. I don't think Howard will net us an impactful defender, so ideally I would like to see a 2nd rounder and a decent prospect in return, or a late 1st round pick.

Yeah at this point I wouldn't do that.

 

[Dbrownss]

I don't see the Blues spending any considerable assets to get him. Blues could bring in prime Brodeur and still lose every game.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I don't see the Blues spending any considerable assets to get him. Blues could bring in prime Brodeur and still lose every game.

Yeah, Allen didn't even lose us the game last night. Without him, it would've been even worse.

 

[DeuceNine]

How about just Howard 50% retained for the 2020 2nd + Chad Johnson

Wings don't want Allen and don't really need Barbashev, rather just keep Svech

Won't work on STL's end. We really don't need Allen fuming over Howard being brought in as a 1/1A.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

That is a low bar.

True that, I know it's not saying much.

 

[Adityase]

My god what was Detroit thinking when they gave abdelkader that dollar value and term along with a ntc?

That he won't let those pictures see the light of day.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

My god what was Detroit thinking when they gave abdelkader that dollar value and term along with a ntc?

Exactly what DRW fans ask every day

 

[WingsMJN2965]

My god what was Detroit thinking when they gave abdelkader that dollar value and term along with a ntc?

Somebody convinced Holland that it actually took skill to stand in front of the net and let Datsyuk bank in pucks off your body.

 

[RedMenace]

Mediocre goalie whom is playing far better then Allen, You mean.

"... who is playing better..."

"To whom" or "for whom" is how that word is used. For example: "A mediocre goalie to whom little credit is given..." or, "A mediocre goalie for whom little return is expected..."

 

[go4hockey]

Detroit gets: Jordan Kyrou

St. Louis: Jimmy Howard

Thoughts?

Your value is off just a mile

 

[Larkin1578]

Your value is off just a mile

Don't blame me, blame Dreger.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Your value is off just a mile

You mean Dreger's value is off by a mile?

 

[Colt55]

You mean Dreger's value is off by a mile?

Yeah sorry there is no way in h ell Thomas or kyrou are involved.