Trade, FA, Rumour Thread

[KingBogo]

I was hoping Samberg becomes better than Demelo. A more physical better scoring Demelo.

That would be ideal but best case that is 3-4 years away.

 

[Whileee]

That would be ideal but best case that is 3-4 years away.

I think Samberg will be better than and sooner than most fans think he will be.

Part of this is based on his track record, part based on scouting reports, but also based on when I watched him in development camp. I know that's a small sample and an unusual setting, but he was very impressive to me. In addition to his great size, he was mobile and smooth with the puck for a big player. He dominated one on one matchups with ease.

 

[Weezeric]

I think Samberg will be better than and sooner than most fans think he will be.

Part of this is based on his track record, part based on scouting reports, but also based on when I watched him in development camp. I know that's a small sample and an unusual setting, but he was very impressive to me. In addition to his great size, he was mobile and smooth with the puck for a big player. He dominated one on one matchups with ease.

Agreed. I wouldn’t be shocked if he has an Adam Fox-like impact. Probably not offensively but better defensively.

 

[KingBogo]

I think Samberg will be better than and sooner than most fans think he will be.

Part of this is based on his track record, part based on scouting reports, but also based on when I watched him in development camp. I know that's a small sample and an unusual setting, but he was very impressive to me. In addition to his great size, he was mobile and smooth with the puck for a big player. He dominated one on one matchups with ease.

I'm a huge Samberg fan and voted for him as our second best prospect after Perfetti. I agree he will be a valuable player for us, but at the same time I think another young defenseman who can defend will serve us well. My experience as a Jet fan is that rarely do I sit there and think this defenseman is being held back, instead the far more common experience is I wish we had someone who could step in who wasn't a major downgrade. My ideal would be to overload on defense while salaries are depressed and then trade from a position of strength if the time should come.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I'd say we need about 3 DeMelo's. We are all hoping that Samberg basically becomes a DeMelo. If we could get another 2/3 defenseman that would be outstanding. The chance of some combination of players not including Laine or Scheifele getting us a true #1 RHD are extremely remote. My biggest motivator for pushing so hard for an improved defense is when I started to isolate our top 6 forwards who struggled defensively with better defense there was a very significant rise in their possession numbers. IMO we will become a much better overall possession team if we can add more D that can defend and move the puck. A true #1 RHD is a dream at this point. Getting 4 or 5 players that grade out at #2-#4 at least gives us a fighting chance at being competitive.

Pionk is a different style but about the same overall level. I hope for more from Samberg. Similar defense + physicality + a little offense. I think we can compete with a top 4 of JMo, DeMelo, Samberg and Pionk. I expect top 4 out of Heinola too and Poolman is fine at 3RD. I'm just not nearly as concerned about our D corps as you are. If I was, I'd still see Weegar as a dubious upgrade from what we have, based on your description of him. Would be better at 2LD for this year. Then no longer needed on the left side.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

That would be ideal but best case that is 3-4 years away.

I don't think it is that far away. I certainly hope not.

 

[GaryPoppins]

Poolman is what he is a decent third pairng RD that still struggles mightily to move the puck out of his end. Weager is a second pairing dmen which is a step up. Weager would be acquired to play on the second pairing on the left this year and then move to the right when Heinola/Samberg are ready. Poolman would play next year on the third pairing and then likely walk as a UFA hence Kovacevik taking his spot the year after next.

I’d have my money on Gawanke

 

[surixon]

I’d have my money on Gawanke

On a non Maurice roster I would agree but Kovacevik is the prototypical third pairing guy he loves.

 

[Teemusalami204]

The more I think about it, the more I think the Jets are going to role with the D they have now and plan to work Samberg (and perhaps Heinola) into the roster this season. Expending considerable assets to pick up a D that you are likely to lose in the expansion draft doesn't make that much sense, particularly if the Jets think Samberg and Heinola are likely to be 2nd-pairing D in the not-too-distant future.

The only caveat might be a big Laine trade, if one of the players coming back is a good top-pairing D. In that case, I could see the Jets moving Pionk, either as part of a Laine trade or as a follow-up.

With this reasoning( which I don’t disagree with ) we most likely were not In on shmidt.

What would change within a couple weeks .

 

[ps241]

I think Samberg will be better than and sooner than most fans think he will be.

Part of this is based on his track record, part based on scouting reports, but also based on when I watched him in development camp. I know that's a small sample and an unusual setting, but he was very impressive to me. In addition to his great size, he was mobile and smooth with the puck for a big player. He dominated one on one matchups with ease.

I wish this wasn’t such an unconventional season. With the extra season at UMD my feelings are similar. I am thinking he will do pretty well if he sticks to his game.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Does anyone else ever sit back and think about how spoiled we were to have Morrissey - Trouba and Buff - Enstrom as our top 4? That's looking a long ways off now.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Any chance NA go play in Liga like Roslovic, Harkins, Copp?

 

[Jets 31]

Does anyone else ever sit back and think about how spoiled we were to have Morrissey - Trouba and Buff - Enstrom as our top 4? That's looking a long ways off now.

That's what happens when you have to pay all the good young forwards that we have.

 

[KingBogo]

That's what happens when you have to pay all the good young forwards that we have.

Do doubt life was easier for Chevy when he Ehlers, Connor and Laine on their ELCs. Hopefully in a couple of years Heinola, Samberg and Perfetti can provide the same type of value.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Do doubt life was easier for Chevy when he Ehlers, Connor and Laine on their ELCs. Hopefully in a couple of years Heinola, Samberg and Perfetti can provide the same type of value.

Let's hope it's next fall. It probably should be for at least 2 of the 3.

 

[10Ducky10]

I honestly see Slamberg becoming as good as Trouba was when he left. I know not many will agree with me but time will tell.

 

[Calcutta]

I honestly see Slamberg becoming as good as Trouba was when he left. I know not many will agree with me but time will tell.

It's all looking good, partnered with Pionk, behind Wheeler, with Forbert there as well, after three successful years in their college, its all set up for the young man to excel. Fingers crossed.

 

[10Ducky10]

It's all looking good, partnered with Pionk, behind Wheeler, with Forbert there as well, after three successful years in their college, its all set up for the young man to excel. Fingers crossed.

That is where he plays this year if they don't bring in anyone else via trade.
Slamberg and DeMelo are going to really help our PK once he is ready for it.

 

[Teemusalami204]

The fake rumour about us being in on shmidt started a false optimism around here thinking we were going to do kore then we normally would .

Statsny was all we were going to do.

 

[Calcutta]

The fake rumor we were trading Laine didn't help things either.

 

[Teemusalami204]

The fake rumor we were trading Laine didn't help things either.

Laine wants out. Doesn’t mean Chevy was going to trade him

 

[KingBogo]

The fake rumour about us being in on shmidt started a false optimism around here thinking we were going to do kore then we normally would .

Statsny was all we were going to do.

We also signed the pending UFA DeMelo which isn't nothing. According to Luszlzyszyn's wins added model the Jets are the 6th most improved team so far this offseason.

NHL offseason by the numbers: Which teams have improved the most (and least)?

 

[Hunter368]

We also signed the pending UFA DeMelo which isn't nothing. According to Luszlzyszyn's wins added model the Jets are the 6th most improved team so far this offseason.

NHL offseason by the numbers: Which teams have improved the most (and least)?

Funny people ignore the facts, Chevy has had a very good offseason so far. Grand slam would be getting a top 4 LHD

 

[Teemusalami204]

We also signed the pending UFA DeMelo which isn't nothing. According to Luszlzyszyn's wins added model the Jets are the 6th most improved team so far this offseason.

NHL offseason by the numbers: Which teams have improved the most (and least)?

It’s not bad at all. That wasn’t the point of my post. It was that more then likely the shmidt stuff was all crap

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Funny people ignore the facts, Chevy has had a very good offseason so far. Grand slam would be getting a top 4 LHD

There are some things I would have liked to have seen done a little differently. But he has met my list of requirements, maybe even exceeded them a bit. I had hopes for more, but I didn't really expect even as much as we got.